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March 2, 2023

Bird Buddy - The reluctant Twitcher

This is a video about a Smart Bird Feeder.

A few of my recent videos have been lengthy and quite sedate, so as a change of gear, here’s one that’s short and snappy. Just something frivolous and intentionally unmemorable that should help pass a few minutes.

https://youtu.be/4rgAq9IFUHM

There’s nothing I can add to this one.

So I’ll just wish you the best. Enjoy the remainder of your week and take care.

UPDATE: Managed to cut 12 seconds out of it, to stop things dragging.

j/k - The real reason for the cut was that Dan via the YouTube comments answered my question on to how to change a gallery cover image. Since that bit was no longer relevant, it got removed. The new slightly shorter version is the one embedded above. Also fixed a typo with another quick re-up.

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Asaf Sagi · March 11, 2023

Birds of Britain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfvEgWINUFc

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Seán Byrne · March 5, 2023

I suggest also getting a window suction-mount bird feeder, something we enjoy watching from the kitchen table as it steadily gets multiple birds feeding together. Here in Ireland (Co. Donegal) we usually get Chaffinches, Goldfinches, Siskins, Blue/great/coal tits, the usual Robin and an occasional Dunnock on it. For feed, I use a 50/50 mix of sunflower hearts and Erdtmanns energy mix that Lidl sells.

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Techmoan · March 8, 2023

I definitely think I need to upgrade the bird seed.

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Peter Muijsenberg · March 5, 2023

I backed the Kickstarter as well and I’ve received my unit months ago (I live in the Netherlands), but I’m still waiting for my wall mount, which was supposed to arrive within a couple of weeks after. So I held off on putting it in my garden at first thinking I’ll wait for the mount and now it’s been sitting in it’s box, gathering dust. Might put it on a pole for now, if I can find a suitable one. No such thing as a standard bird feeder pole in Europe…

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Raul Ramos · April 11, 2023

I've used a sawed down broom handle and it works fine

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CheeseParis · March 4, 2023

1) I wonder if there is a risk having devices with our WIFI password outside our houses. Not only the bird buddy, but also the doorbell and videocameras everybody is selling us. One of the devices will have the password in the clear in the setup menu and there goes network security. 2) Bird buddy needs a Squirrel mode ;-)

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Techmoan · March 4, 2023

All security is a bit of a myth anyway. If anyone really wants to get into your stuff (whether virtual or real) there’s nothing really stopping them.

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Funkmon · March 4, 2023

Okay these birds are cute. I get that appeal. Hopefully someone pops up with a better camera system!

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Kurt Hansen · March 4, 2023

That is probably the reason why the Bird Buddy sends so few photos. The software is probably set up in such a way that it really has to be convinced that what it “sees”, is actually a bird. So it’s more than a motion sensor triggering the camera.

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Raul Ramos · March 8, 2023

As I backed the Kickstarter back in the day I barely remember specs and all so I went on to reread and there is an accelerometer in this thing. I wonder if it's sensitivity is too low or the mounting and camera placing (I don't have the screw attached) plays a role on all this bird missing

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evilution · March 4, 2023

I did consider something like this but I didn't want 300 notifications telling me it'd seen a sparrow. However, that'd be preferable to it not seeing anything. I wonder how it'd deal with a squirrel because that's what would be mainly eating all the seeds around here.

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David Bono · March 4, 2023

What is the bird at 1:00 in the video?

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Techmoan · March 4, 2023

I think that's a Goldfinch.

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David Fulton · March 4, 2023

Bird is the word, but the tech is a turd!

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Gary Bleads · March 3, 2023

Thanks for the tip about the Amazon Blink. We've got one as a door camera, but was never too impressed with it. I've just moved it to the garden table and got some wonderful footage of the birds and squirrels.

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Techmoan · March 3, 2023

They focus surprisingly close - which makes them handy for things like this.

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Andy Ihnatko · March 3, 2023

The answer to the mystery is right there in the video. Your squirrel -- or possibly a crew of squirrels, working together -- are disabling the camera before they pull off a seed heist. My advice is to keep an eye out until you've identified the neighborhood's most charismatic squirrel (the one who reminds you somehow of either Jason Statham or George Clooney) and convince them to go straight. It'll only be a temporary solution. Inevitably, an old friend or foe from the leader's past will convince them to pull off Just One More Job. But hey, you paid a lot of money for that thing.

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Techmoan · March 3, 2023

I think you may be right - I’ve just found a Polaroid photo of the empty garden attached to an arm hanging down in front of the lens. The seed had been replaced with gravel.

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Stephen Bell · March 3, 2023

Thank you for this one, Mat. I have seriously been considering one of these so your review is very timely. There are others of course. Have you thought of doing a series? :-) Cheers, SB. https://www.amazon.co.uk/s?k=bird+feeder+with+camera

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Techmoan · March 3, 2023

I noticed this too when I was looking if I could add an affiliate link for the Bird Buddy. Since the Bird Buddy took a few years to get to market I suspect all these other ones are copy cats. I haven’t read up on any but I doubt they have the same bird recognition features, they’re likely more a security camera stuck to a bird table. We’ll see how this video does. I’m expecting it to be a bit of a Dodo.

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Dan Tombs · March 3, 2023

very enjoyable and can see a family member very much enjoying something like this, so will research for a gift, would you mind sharing the details of Gnawtys camera please ? as the person already has many feeding stations set up, I think just adding a camera to the mix might be the best option in this case ! thanks in advance and hope you get some hedgehogs back soon :)

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Techmoan · March 3, 2023

They're just the Blink Outdoor cameras available from Amazon. Since Amazon bought Blink they now put these into their regular Amazon Day discount events - so if I were you I'd wait until the next Black Friday, Blue Monday, Freaky Friday event to get them at a big discount.

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Roland Bogush · March 3, 2023

Great video, Mat. I too had thought of getting one of these, but I think I won't bother now. I was interested to see that type of bird feed being eaten - the birds around here are so spoiled they will only eat sunflower hearts - any other feed is completely ignored - and we get exactly the same species of birds that you do!

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Raul Ramos · March 3, 2023

I've watched it now and it is good, condensed and hindsightful. Most of the time ours has been in operation, I've been ill so I haven't reviewed it's performance. We didn't get the solar panel and we live in an apartment so it's on the balcony. Today funny enough has been the first day I saw a sparrow going to eat and got no notifications. I had seen tracks on the fresh snow last week but this was a positive. I agree with it all. We order it before the pandemic and arrived sometime in January? The idea is nice, we wanted to give it a chance. In our case it just seems to show great tits, whenever it catches something. I mean I like great tits as much as anyone but I wonder if it is something going on there

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Arthur Robillard · March 3, 2023

I hope further updates fix this problem and allow for more flexibility in the notifications. It looks like a lovely idea.

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Log · March 3, 2023

Did any of you catch the typo at 3:45 min. It says "This is a just a test location". I think he meant "This is just a test location". Other wise this is a great video.

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Techmoan · March 3, 2023

Thanks, I’ll upload a fix.

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For the Birbs (Jim Hooke) · March 3, 2023

Speaking of smart bird feeders, or not so smart (joke), here's my Aussie birbs channel if anyone is into wild birds. https://youtube.com/@ForTheBirbs

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David E. Blankenship · March 3, 2023

There's tons of other 'smart' bird feeders on Amazon, maybe one of them would work better. If the wife's car didn't need tires she might be getting one for her birthday

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Longplay Games · March 2, 2023

Can't say this product seems to be a win in any category, a sad unique example of solid idea but flubbing every part of the execution that matters. Excellent review of it though!

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Techmoan · March 2, 2023

The birds like it.

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Matt Tester · March 2, 2023

Definitely a novel idea, things have come a long way from me building a box on a bird table to house an old Hi8 camera about 20 years ago. Hopefully the software can be sorted.

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Kurt Hansen · March 2, 2023

My own bird feeder has been in the garden for a few weeks now and my experiences are very similar to yours. Including looking for a suitable pole. Turned out that an ordinary stem for a brush worked well, after some wilting. Today I saw that quite a lot of the feed has disappeared and yet I have only received about 10 notifications. Now, the last few days the battery was dead, so that could have something to do with, I guess. Anyway, it's a nice thing to have. It was a good idea that you also ordered the solar panel, because my camera has to be charged every 2 or three days. Thanks for the video. Nice editing makes for pleasant viewing.

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Michael J · March 2, 2023

I've had my own Bird Buddy for a few months now, and can confirm the same performance where it seems to not send out postcards even with loads of bird visiting the feeder. I follow the company on Facebook and from what I've gleaned from their support staff is that the BB is doing alot more in the background than your simple trail cam - having to take photos, send them to a server where it runs against an algorithm to determine if the picture is clear and whether or not the bird can be identified, before sending it to your phone. Even with all that I still get loads of good photos and agree with your assessment that it's best we don't get hundreds of notifications every time a robin picks up a seed.

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David Glover-Aoki · March 2, 2023

I was actually thinking about buying one of these, so this review was quite timely. Right now we have a problem with rogue squirrels eating *all* the bird food we put out. I'd quite one of these that could recognize a squirrel and then activate a spring-loaded catapult or something.

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Mark Walsham · March 2, 2023

A friend put a bird feeder with a camera in his garden and was plagued by squirrels. Luckily the camera was one of those Go Pro knock offs, as a week later the camera was gone. It was found 2 weeks later in the flower beds and reviewing of the footage showed the culprit was indeed a squirrel. I have yet to find a squirrel proof bird feeder, they (squirrels) are very clever creatures!

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H P Lovecraft's Cat · March 2, 2023

I was offered a review unit of this item, as much as I would have liked it I passed because the squirrels would have torn it apart in a day.Software issues would have been My lowest concern.

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Gareth P · March 2, 2023

That thought crossed my mind, maybe because Gnawty has its own dedicated feeder it wouldn't be too much of a problem for Mat but in our garden anything that wasn't specially protected was torn apart and gobbled up by squirrels in no time!

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Mark Walsham · March 2, 2023

What a shame Mat, as like you, seeing the visitors to the garden is an absolute pleasure. There is something quite calming and relaxing to see nature up close in your own garden. Maybe a firmware update to the detection algorithm might be forthcoming. Wait until it goes off and asks you to identify your squirrel!!

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MrHammond · March 2, 2023

Looks like a cool gadget, but still could use some improvement, maybe some software updates will bring it? I'll keep it in mind once I moved, if I get an interesting backyard...

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Ludwig Kormann · March 2, 2023

Maybe your unit is set to US time zone and inactive most of the day 🏝️

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Scott Call · March 2, 2023

Having recently moved to a house with a yard for the first time in 25 years, my wife and I would love this, I hope they improve its functionality.

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Stuart Feltham · March 2, 2023

I assume that bird identification is carried out remotely on a bird buddy server somewhere? I wonder if the lack of results is due to images/videos failing to reach the server for some reason. If every bird buddy feeder is as popular as yours then they may be overloaded and therefore failing to report every visit. Just a thought.

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Techmoan · March 2, 2023

It’s as good a theory as any, but makes more sense than most.

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Gareth P · March 2, 2023

I like looking at the wildlife in our garden so enjoyed seeing the various birds and mammals! Someone pointed out these smart bird feeders to me a while back but for me it is a shame that (like so much these days) they are tied to a phone app. If it was possible to integrate it into a desktop application somehow I'd be interested (assuming it worked of course). Might be wrong but I think the limitations of the phone app were apparent in the video too. Looking at lots of varying quality photos of wildlife is easier on a monitor than a phone!

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Jason Olshefsky · March 2, 2023

Obviously it's because you used a metric bird feeder pole and not a "standard" one. ;)

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CrimsonPig808 · March 2, 2023

Enjoyable video. Needing a magnet to seat the camera in the feeder is a bit of a red flag as to the possible issue. It sounds like it's using the magnet to activate the 'bird-spotting' algorithms. My DJI Osmo 6 gimbal system is similar. It has a bracket that magnetically connects to the phone. If it isn't exactly aligned, the gimbal won't work even though it looks like it's properly seated. Fortunately, there are LEDs that tell you the magnets are off. Is it possible the bird feeder isn't recording birds because it doesn't know the camera is properly seated in the feeder? Sounds like they need to fix this issue... or you just got a faulty unit, Mr. unlucky.

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Raul Ramos · March 2, 2023

The app tells you if it's in the feeder, hence whether activated

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Alex Ryles · March 2, 2023

What a lovely idea! Would be good to get one if they can refine the software a bit more.

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Raul Ramos · March 2, 2023

Haha, I haven't seen it yet but I wanted to write a short post about this in case you were interested. Mine has no solar panel though. I'm curious about you experiences. Mine are a mixed bag

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ASBR · March 2, 2023

Got a good chuckle from the ‘identify it by looking at its arse’ comment. This seems like a really good idea and a fun thing. Shame it wasn’t picking up every visitor!

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Grace Robbins · March 2, 2023

• Great video! Nicely condensed editing, so much so I had to rewatch to catch the little nuances I had missed. • Your back garden is so green and vibrant - my locale is struggling to get out of the winter ice phase. • Bits that amused my odd sense of humor: Peckish Complete bird food; Gnawty's Nuts; the bird's arse; run-over hedgehog? 😮 • Bits that heart-warmed me: the bird buddy caught you on video; you built a little hedgehog city 💙; Miss Gnawty has a kind and considerate human dad; your multi-voice 'faulty' edit. • Your voice is very svelte; the med trial must really be kicking arse. This is a fun product - thanks for showing us, despite its faults. It's a short video, but you did more work on it than it appears. Have a wonderful week ahead, and thank you for you.

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Techmoan · March 2, 2023

Thanks - I realise when I start down the route of showing more detail about the set-up procedure etc that the videos can get bogged down and then I have to show all the software features etc. Then I’ll end up with a 30 minute video about a bird table and there is still guaranteed to be something I omitted deliberately - which gets greeted with a chorus of ‘you forgot to mention the xxxx’. Whereas if I were to make a deliberately superficial video that touches on very little, it gets more leeway if not every last detail is explored in mind numbing detail. It’s a bit of a tightrope to walk.

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Brian Gerfort · March 2, 2023

Oh, and good to get a Mr. Gnawty update! :D

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Techmoan · March 2, 2023

I thought it was dead the other day as I saw a squashed one on the road - and I know Gnawty travels a big distance to get here. It crosses multiple roads so it’s chancing its luck. Fortunately I was proved wrong when it appeared later that day.

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Brian Gerfort · March 2, 2023

Oh no, I wanted to get one of these.. Maybe I will try my luck anyway. Is it possible to screw off the roof and remount it 180 degrees rotated? (So the solarpanel is on the other side.)

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Techmoan · March 2, 2023

I’m not sure

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VitaminJ · March 2, 2023

Ah brilliant, I was considering getting one of these as a housewarming gift for a friend who's buying her first house. Good to know it kinda works, albeit not at full capacity, perhaps it's good enough!

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Techmoan · March 2, 2023

Maybe mine is faulty

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Sarah Fenway · March 2, 2023

I wonder if it is power related. I wonder if, by having the solar panel one, it wants to go into a lower power mode because it's not getting "enough" light to keep the battery topped up. So it's automatically nobbling itself to save you from charging it. Maybe there's an easy way to cut off the solar power source - even a bit of tape over the connectors - that might give a different result?

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Techmoan · March 2, 2023

It’s the same result if the solar roof is plugged in or not. As you’d imagine I did all the usual trouble shooting - including resetting and starting again from scratch, changing WiFi networks, phones vs iPads, locations, angles, times of day, standing on one leg etc.

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CBits Tech · March 2, 2023

An excellent smart birdtable review by the excellent son of Bill Oddie.

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Travis Howard · March 2, 2023

My friends have one of these and post pictures on Facebook all the time. I'm considering getting one myself, so definitely appreciate seeing your thoughts on it!

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Ruairi P Donaldson · March 2, 2023

Ohhh I didn't know these were a thing! Going to look into getting one. My dad would love it.

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Matthew Lowe · March 2, 2023

I’m disproportionately happy you have a BirdBuddy. Got one for my Mum and she’s absolutely loving it.

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Matthew Lowe · March 2, 2023

Hers does miss a few birds but it’s definitely got better with the firmware updates. Agree the app definitely needs work.