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June 20, 2022

Routing HiFi audio to a soundbar, wirelessly

A quick video about listening to my HiFi's components via my TV’s surround system. I really don’t know if this will be of interest or relevance to anyone other than myself, but I’ve already made it now, it’s too late to go back.

https://youtu.be/ZlI3yB2N9Pg

NOTE - The updated version of the video is the one now posted above.

Comments (37)

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Duncan · June 22, 2022

A useful video which taught me something. I had dismissed using Bluetooth Headphones to use with my TV (which predates anything like that) because a quick Google suggested the latency in Bluetooth is typically 300ms. Low latency sounds to be what I need.

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Stephen Hamme · June 22, 2022

Yet Another Excellent Video. Wonderful job thinking outside the box! I can imagine there are people who have a situation similar to this and now have an answer.

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Bas van Schooten · June 22, 2022

I think Techmoan used to use a setup similar to that long ago... Before the streamer was introduced..

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Techmoan · June 22, 2022

I did use a Sonos bridge for a while - but it all went in the bin.

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Mike in Texas · June 22, 2022

I have a couple of older Avantree BT transmitters...looks like this newer one has similar specs...but I have not tried it (yet)... Avantree Audikast Plus Bluetooth 5.0

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Peter Rogers · June 22, 2022

Sonos will also do this... at about 10x the price you paid, but with many more features such as the ability to play your HiFi audio in any/every other room via a Sonos speaker in that room.

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Grace Robbins · June 21, 2022

Speaking of Bluetooth, my car displayed this evening: https://ibb.co/DLBtGk4

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Techmoan · June 21, 2022

It appears that it needs an urgent service - that looks like a catastrophic failure.

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István Nagy · June 21, 2022

Other's already mentioned that this is not really using aptX. So as a side note, SBC is not necessarily a bad codec, it's a stripped down mp2, basically the brother of PASC used by DCC. The main issue with SBC is that the bitrate is not defined in the A2DP profiles, so some devices use lower bitrate (bitpool) values, and quality goes downhill below ~300kbps. Myself can't really complain about the quality with recent devices using the most common 328kbps bitpool settings. The base aptX code is kind of a marketing stunt, because it's an even more dumber codec than SBC. It doesn't really have any kind of psychoacoustics model, just a pre allocated bit quantizer for a few sub bands. (it adds hiss when the allocated bits are not enough, so different artifacts than with SBC) aptX HD is the same, just higher overall bitrate, lower noisefloor. This article goes into many technical aspects, also codecs can be tested in the browser with your own audio files: https://habr.com/en/post/456182/

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Techmoan · June 21, 2022

Thanks for that link - very interesting.

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Doeke Zanstra · June 21, 2022

If you need AirPlay put, you could use Airfoil. You would need a spate Mac with it, but it’s a possibility… https://www.rogueamoeba.com/airfoil/mac/

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MVVblog · June 21, 2022

This is only a tranmitter and is Stereo, bluetooth 5.0 low latency and sonds very good! https://amzn.to/3zV8Tni I had to find it among a thousand monophonic transceivers, because I need it for a video and I didn't want to spend a crazy amount of money. You might be interested in.

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Robert Currie · June 21, 2022

Would it make sense to include the name of the product and some mention of Bluetooth in the YouTube description or title? I can imagine lots of people looking for this kind of a solution, but the title and descriptions doesn't seem to really give your review the credit it deserves in finding this device.

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Robert Currie · June 21, 2022

And of course, I could be wrong and maybe YouTube algorithm/search doesn't pay any attention to titles or description.

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Nuts 'n' Proud · June 21, 2022

Thanks Mat - what a clever gadget.

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Charles Kugelman · June 20, 2022

SBC sounds much better than people give credit for, but yeah having an aptx hd supporting receiver on your soundbar (I can't imagine many soundbars support it natively) would be a slightly more interesting angle. Maybe offer an opinion as to if you and can detect any difference at all in sound quality between SBC and aptx hd.

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Per Hedetun · June 20, 2022

About the product: for your next trick, you should hook up the reception mode to your Hi-Fi amplifier — now having gained a Bluetooth input! Like others have pointed out, there's a bit of confusion regarding aptX in the narration here. For what it's worth, Sony promotes their competing LDAC system over aptX. My Xperia 1 II does both, though. Don't know about that soundbar of yours. Anything in the manual? Perhaps aptX needs to be activated separately. The product review is important enough that I think you should publish it. But it would probably benefit from some re-editing, in order to sort out the issue. Mini-Mat to the rescue. 😁

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Garret Rain · June 20, 2022

I take it this tool would work to bring analog auto from a HiFi into a PC/Mac to then record into Audacity?

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Grace Robbins · June 20, 2022

I've sent analogue to my Chromebook via the headphone-out/mic-in jack, using a component to TRRS 3.5mm cable.

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Mark Hesse · June 20, 2022

This is something I could use, but I would need two of them to go from my jury-rigged hi-fi in the basement to my TV surround system upstairs since that system is physical input only. I might get one anyway since it could always be used for something else. SBC vs aptX isn't an issue either.

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Techmoan · June 20, 2022

I’ve ordered an Apt-X receiver to try with this - I’ll add that into the video and reshoot the last half when it arrives.

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Michael Wehr · June 20, 2022

You saved my day. I was looking for a device for ages that could connect my hifi system to TWO headphones. And at 8:11 in the video it says it could do that. I will definitely try it out. I have a home cinema and sometimes I want to watch a movie late at night with another person without waking up the rest of the family. The latency could be a problem but Kodi should fix that problem.

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Jeremy Travis · June 20, 2022

I remember back in the 1970s when none of this technology existed. Wiring remote devices needed a rats nest or cables. You would then find the builders would come in a cut through the cables. One client paid me £2500 in advance and when I came back to find all my hard work destroyed, he said don't bother I have changed my mind and you can keep the money.

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Brad Jones · June 21, 2022

You should see behind my A/V centre... it's STILL a rats nest of cables! 😆

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William Schroeder · June 20, 2022

Thanks!

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William Schroeder · June 20, 2022

Nice device, and it works. Can I ask what is that piece of gear (at 9:44) two shelves below the Pioneer reel to reel? Looks like it says Technics...is it a switchbox? Thanks.

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Techmoan · June 20, 2022

Yes the Technics RP-951 is a switchbox.

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Grace Robbins · June 20, 2022

Hey, you're spoiling us now 😀. Have to wait 5 hrs to watch this; but ironically I happened upon your video re: sending music to quality Bluetooth speakers last night: https://youtu.be/SOlPl7JMeis It was one rare video I didn't recall watching previously. I love it when that happens.

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Grace Robbins · June 20, 2022

Just viewed, and my brain blown simply by the concept of potentially playing the Tefifon through a soundbar. Phooey to aptX or SBC.

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Per Hedetun · June 20, 2022

Haven't seen more than the thumbnail for now, but I recognize the Bluetooth transceiver you're holding there. Had some plans of adding it to my headphone rig at the office. Didn't come to fruition (yet?) Perhaps after your review. 🤓

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ENP · June 20, 2022

It is of relevance to me! I was looking for something similar to connect an old tape deck to my minimalist Hi-Fi (amplifier & IPTV receiver) in the living room. Thank you for sharing your experience!

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Matthew Lawrenson · June 20, 2022

Actually - yes, I have been looking to do something like this. I have an old amp and cassette deck in the front room and no means to send the audio out to the TV/sound bar except via a very long RCA/3.5mm lead (not ideal when there's a 4 year old running around). This should solve my problem as there's no room for speakers in the lounge. Thanks.

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David Glover-Aoki · June 20, 2022

You mention that it's using aptX, but both the sound bar display and the transmitter display show that it is using SBC, which is the original, simpler bluetooth codec, and not aptX. Perhaps your sound bar doesn't support aptX, or maybe aptX is an option in the transmitter UI somewhere.

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Techmoan · June 20, 2022

Whoops! I have a feeling this one might have to remain a patreon exclusive because you’re more understanding about things like this.

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Cybernaut · June 20, 2022

I remember using one of the small Apple wifi routers years ago to stream audio, would have been airplay. Although it had a line out only :/

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Techmoan · June 20, 2022

Yep I've done that - that's Airplay in... what a lot of people are looking for (myself included) is Airplay out.

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CBits Tech · June 20, 2022

I watched Elliott Coll varnishing wood the other day, I'm gonna watch anything you post 😁