A simple Edison repair

Did that note say that the CD can be played on a record player?? Have they actually engraved a song onto a CD that can be played by a record player or is that weird terminology?

It just occurred to me that, had Sony built cylinder phonographs, they would have stormed the market with the CylinderMan, so that all the cool kids would have one on their way to the dance hall.

"if you turn the volume up you can just hear thousands of engineers screaming. Let’s just use this wrong size screwdriver to cross thread this hundred year old bolt" I can't tell if that commenter was being funny or being serious, but I can't blame you for having a gutfull of the YT comments section, Mat.

I find the sound of these cylinders oddly soothing.

Hmm if I was being cynical I'd say that the tiny handle screws is a deliberate measure so that after it drops it on the floor you have to buy a whole new one!!

Sadly, there is a portion of the population with a distinctive cognitive style - who think minor details are more important than the big picture, who assume that if you don't mention something it means you don't know it - who have been given a megaphone by the comments sections of every web site. No one would voluntarily put up with this in a real-world conversation but online is a whole other matter.

So it doesn’t have quartz controlled speed 😁

Thanks for the video Mat. I enjoyed it. Would it be OK to pass the unlisted video link on to my non Patreon friend? He collects cylinder players and said he really enjoyed the last public one.

As long as the work got the deed done, it's a good'n. No need for anyone to be critical of this or any video - at all. I take all of the videos at face-value, I enjoy them, and I appreciate all the eccentricities that come with them. Otherwise it's like trying to send a telegraph to Degas that his paintings suck.

About "whining and complaining on YouTube" - that's the same on Twitter, Facebook, etc. Just take no notice of it, do what you enjoy and don't try to please (anyone/everyone). As long as you're satisfied with what you're doing, we are, and to h*** with the rest... KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK, AND DON'T SAY "JACK THE WHOLE THING IN" AGAIN!!

I liked this video but I do have a comment on your use of using a flathead screwdriver on a philips screw, use the right tool for the job ! You can easily damage the flathead screwdriver (and the screw) using it on a philips screw :)

Hope the other bolts don't break also soon...

Okay, I loved this video, even though I was yelling at you that you had that screw extractor the wrong way on your first go. I have the same set and have also used it successfully. Good luck sourcing a proper replacement bolt!

Oops! I forgot to update my card! I was un-patroned for a bit! 😱 Your videos keep me entertained. Keep up the good work, Mat. 👍

Here's more about threads than you ever wanted to know! That looks like about a 3/16" or 7/32" bolt so I willassume that. British Imperial threads had a 55 degree angle of cut and at that size a pitch of 24 to the inch for coarse or 32 for fine. American ones (even old ones like that) had a 60 degree cut and the same pitch so I suspect that you have managed to squeeze a British bolt into an American hole which will work so long as you don't over tighten it. The other one you tries was probably a metric 4mm with a 60 degree cut but a different diameter. The other common one about that size would be 3 or 4 BA (British Association) with a 47.5 degree cut. I am not sure what the pitch of those is.

That feeling when you (a) have the proper tool for the job and (b) it actually works! Fantastic!

I'm guessing the bolts are probably British Standard Whitworth threads.

Screw the whiners!

I think that's the first time I saw a screw extractor actually work. I just kept breaking them when I tried to use them. Went through a whole set - good ones, too

The only track I know by Severed Heads is 'Dead Eyes Opened', which certainly appeals to my lifelong love of electro pop... https://youtu.be/Orr2ZqtijCQ

Lovely! When you did get out the screw with the screw extractor, the success put a big smile on my face! Also: I was just today listening to Severed Heads ...!!!

I wonder if there is anything worthwhile gleaned from the Youtube comments section that outweighs having to interact with what I imagine can be likened to a river of sewage. HOPEFULLY I suppose. But taking a break is obviously needed from time to time. Wonderful you were able to fix that wonderful machine. As always... thanks for your creativity.

That's the 1st time I have ever seen a screw extractor actually work that wasn't a video specifically about how a screw extractor works.

Screw the comment section! We all love the content you put together and appreciate all the hard work that goes into this channel

I was really willing this to be repairable, so I'm delighted that you were able to get it working. Top work Mat and thanks as always for the terrific channel.

I think that could do with a vacuum - another great catchphrase, but also another great video. I have a set of extractors somewhere also, just never used and great to see they can work!

I don't know, American engineering, 100 years and it just snaps Pfft!

People seem to think just because they can voice their opinion practically everywhere, that said opinion actually matters. I've never understood the propensity to complain about stuff on the telly, never mind Youtube where someone is putting in hours or days of their own time often for not much recompense. If you don't enjoy it, turn it over or switch it off. Anyway, I enjoyed the video and think you are often a bit harsh on yourself and downplay how fun/interesting the video is. But, I am a patron so obviously, I like this stuff enough to pay!

I believe Wera is pronounced like Vera, because german.

So technically you could say, you successfully screwed it up. 😀

This is good Patreon shit mat

I was wondering if the thread was BSW or British Standard Whitworth. It was probably made out of high tensile steel and that would be why it snapped. You can buy replacements on Ebay and many other places including www.bolts.co.uk. You can get BSW bolts that are made out of none high tensile steel.

Wera are one of the best German tools/ screws companies. Congrats on having one of their sets.

Haha amazing rollercoaster this episode was with the victorious bolt extractions and the second snap. Excellent stuff as always.

All your videos are at least truly very good. This one was great. You fixed something you wanted to fix. Getting a more perfect bolt is a worthy goal, too. Your liferaft-sized Victorinox Swiss Army knife always makes me chuckle.

Ett vykort means "a postcard" in Swedish. There is a NSFW name having to do with pigs in Swedish for those screw extractors

Excellent work Matt at least this repair job went better than the SACD video you did

That had to be very rewarding. As far as the bolts go, I’d get a screw thread gauge and get the correct size from your local hardware store (ironmonger?). To remove screws, I use cheap torx bits. I drill a hole in the broken screw and pound the torx bit in, and remove it using a wrench. Seems brutal but it works unless the screw has been rusted in for 100 years.

Don't let the haters get you down, some people just have nothing better to do with their lives.

Found myself rooting for you! As for the Trolls... Did it fix it? Does it work now? I can understand wanting to use the correct part for originality... But we use what we have at hand. Kudos for getting the extractor to work! Marvelous video. Loved the "Floppy"!

Back in the depths of time there were many different standards but it doesn't really matter. So long as you know the diameter and the pitch (how many threads per inch) you can either find the appropriate die for cutting the thread or if it is non standard use the screw cutting facility on the lathe to replicate it. It is a course thread so could well be UNC, which would be straight forward.

Matt, as you were putting the first replacement screw in I thought to myself that is bent and will likely snap. I suspect bent or snapped screws in that location is a common issue as all the loading is on that one screw when you wind it up. It's likely the last guy in, noticed it was bent, swapped and threw it in the bottom as a sample. I have a small machine shop at home and could knock up a couple of new ones for you if you can get the old parts to me. I also think you have one of the springs the wrong way round. The large ends should both go to the centre allowing the frame to float.

That bolt only lasted 120 years? Bloody planned obsolescence. They don't make things that *last* anymore! (just doing my best public YT commenter impression)

Seeing you use the flathead driver on the Phillips bolt after talking about the screwdriver police was priceless.

Not all the way through, and understand that shipping and customs is a (recently created) pain in the threads, but http://www.victroladoctor.com/new-replacement-part-page/ It's just killing me to see you trying threads blind! I am not a machinist (sure, I follow one on Patreon, but ...) but you should be able to find the *correct* thread locally or at least in the UK.

I'm intrigued by Stephen's note, I think I can see the other CD in the box and it looks like the Severed Heads album Donut, which has grooves cut in for a record player along with the data section for the CD. I don't believe you've made a video about something similar, would be nice to see it being played. I found an article from 2017 with a picture of the disc but that's all. Seems like a very expensive novelty!

Tim Hunkin did a video about screw threads last week. https://youtu.be/yGdszxGiB1A It's actually quite complicated. Though you did a better job of screw extraction than Tim did.

Well, I enjoyed that whatever the general YouTube audience might think. Regarding the thread, if it were a modern piece of American made equipment the thread would likely be UNC, but I don't know how old this standard is. From the size I would guess at 10-24 or 8-32. 10-24 is 4.8mm in diameter and has 24 threads per inch, 8-32 is 4.1mm in diameter and has 32 threads per inch. It might even be 1/4"-20 which is the standard camera tripod thread. I hope this helps.

Great video. It occurred to me that I have seen machinists make bolts and cut threads on them using blank stock rods. I would think there is some fan out there who could manufacture an exact copy of that bolt using quality steel. Just an idea!

I share your surprise that the screw remover actually worked. Going to add that to my list! I can't believe the chances that the replacement bolt would _also_ break. I will admit I found it very amusing :P

Great video again. I think you can nominate someone as a comment moderator on YouTube now. Probably too much hassle for the benefit, just saying.

Thanks Mat. I was in a museum last week in Norway that had Edison cylinders on display and I impressed my wife by knowing what they were and how they worked.

Throughout the video I was sort of cheering you on, although of course you couldn't hear me. That was an epic (albeit simple) repair, because you actually had a bolt that worked. I am thrilled this machine is back up and running again. It's interesting and neat that another musical group is putting music on cylinders. I enjoyed this very much, Mat. Take care.

Very interesting follow up to the first video. And, so delighted that there are more and more patreons to the channel. DELIGHTED!!

I read a lot of top comments and they always seem nice. I haven't even noticed one mean one. now I know that doesn't mean they don't exist, only that it seems like a majority are positive at least to casual viewing. all that to say, do you think you're hyper focusing only on the negative one? anywho, you are now required by me to have a wonderful day, and I will brook no argument! ✌️😎

Here’s an idea. Allow comments only on Patreon, but disable them on YouTube for all new videos going forward. If the negative/spam comments are getting to you that much, then I think it’s worth considering, at least on a trial basis.

I know the whingers get you down Mat but try not to let them piss you off (I know it's easier said than done). Big respect from Tyneside, sir.