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February 2, 2022

The Magic Message AV Repeater

This was a nice little project. An unusual piece of retro-tech, BNIB, working perfectly, simple to demonstrate and yet still interesting enough to be worth showing.

Here’s the video https://youtu.be/74C9h3KO7KQ

I'd be interested to know if anyone has any recollection of ever encountering one of these in the wild. I'd be very surprised if they have.

Hope everyone is good, take it easy and look after yourself.

UPDATE: Re-uploaded

I’ve reinstated some dialog that was previously cut. Hopefully this makes the video flow better.


Comments (47)

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Anton · February 5, 2022

Hahaha, I had one of these! Well I never even thought I'd see one again. bought cheap $20NZD from a local surplus place in 2002 ish. Horrid sound quality but a neat concept. Everywhere I saw them installed, the suction cups gave up in the sun and the heavy transducer fell down.

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Techmoan · February 5, 2022

Now that doesn’t surprise me - it’s like trying to hold a house brick to a window with blu-tac.

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Contreramanjaro · February 5, 2022

I've seen those car power sockets used with batteries. Basically, the female version of that power socket on one end and alligator clips on the other end. I'm thinking maybe for an outdoor kiosk without power. Still, straight up 12V DC anything gives you a ton of options.

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Techmoan · February 5, 2022

Yes I’ve got one of those somewhere - I used it in this video. https://youtu.be/i8yx3yug5lo

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OldSchoolStereo · February 4, 2022

Such an odd device....but interesting as well

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Stephen Hamme · February 3, 2022

Yet Another Fascinating video, sir. Early QR code, indeed.

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LionsPhil · February 3, 2022

So clever and hi-tech to have ALS instead of a mark tone, right up until you have that manual timing adjustment because it can't seek forward automatically to the start of the next loop. :)

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Techmoan · February 3, 2022

Yes - I think this shows how the foil system works better.

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Raul Ramos · February 3, 2022

I loved that thing. As you talked about the speaker, I was thinking whether it would not be cool if they used the window as a speaker. Someone in the 80s had some fun putting it together. Thank you for bringing it back. The point of the instructions is true. Its odd how important is a design language that anyone can understand but it is not a human y thing but an educational one ainnit? You see kids nowadaess swiping at any flat piece of glass they see

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Phil Collins · February 3, 2022

Am I the only one who would record “Stop tapping on the f*****g window!!” :)

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Keith Johnson · February 3, 2022

Ugh. I watched the video just after I woke up, and I’ve had “This Magic Moment” stuck in my head all day. I have to assume I somehow associated Magic Message with Magic Moment. Is tapping on glass and getting a sales pitch a magic moment? I doubt it.

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Grace Robbins · February 3, 2022

It will last forever, forever 'till the end of time.

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Sam Lowry · February 3, 2022

I would have loved having a look inside the cassette.

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Techmoan · February 3, 2022

Here you go https://youtu.be/xU1aYAHmaJI?t=219

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Jonas Otter · February 3, 2022

I have seen quite a few similar things in museums, press a button and hear stuff about whatever is in front of you

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Mark Grigoleit · February 3, 2022

Ah, my favourite old girlfriend, Anna. Anna Log.

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Grace Robbins · February 10, 2022

I just saw this item and had to return here and share, 😂 https://www.ebay.com/itm/134020429309

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OzRetrocomp · February 3, 2022

Off-topic, but I've been reading the Grundig video comments sorted by newest (as that's the quickest way to get to the silliest comments and I needed the laugh). I can't get over how many people are saying "bring back the puppets". I might be misremembering, but wasn't there a video where you explained why the Moans were retired? Something about YouTube's interpretation of COPPA making it too onerous to feature the Moans on a regular basis.

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john · February 3, 2022

Yeah, it was in a Patreon update, he said that children's videos couldn't be monetized and he was afraid that the Moans would get the videos considered to be for children. Plus, it had started to get pretty hard to come up with new skits for the Moans.

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stuckforever · February 2, 2022

Like this post if you scanned the QR code...

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Ronaldo Rodriguez · February 2, 2022

This device is definitely in the category of unusual but useful and amusing at the same time. Was this device created to give users the ability to have a touch activated "button" from the other side of the glass, like without drilling holes?

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Duncan · February 2, 2022

The next step would have been to have an output for a slide projector changer. Museums used to think they were really up to date by having AV displays wittering on about the discovery of some Egyptian Mummy or similar, while showing some out of focus 35mm slides using a back projector.

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Eric S. Tyrer II · February 3, 2022

The VIC at Paul-Smiths in the ADKS had this setup of 40 Kodak carousel projectors with slides synchronized to voice/sound that sorta mimicked film behavior. I thought it was pretty advanced as a kid because for the same functionality there would of been a 16mm or larger film projection setup instead. The show was about life/history/people of the Adirondacks in a stop motion style. I’m really dating myself here. 😞

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john · February 2, 2022

Nice little thing! too bad you can't use it for postal workers. BTW I like how you've added W&F to your repertoire of tests. Have you thought about adding azimuth alignment as well? If you used that audio oscilloscope you have I think it could be a nice visual segment to your video. I assume most of these crap cassette decks have poorly aligned azimuths, along with being able to align the azimuth of retro tech.

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Techmoan · February 2, 2022

I've never tried azimuth alignment - perhaps I should learn how to do it.

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Eric S. Tyrer II · February 2, 2022

Looks like the patent was awarded in 1988 to REI founder. https://tinyurl.com/36dvf3v2 so prob late 80s early 90s tech?

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Techmoan · February 2, 2022

It's from 1986. I must have cut that bit out - let me check if I can put it back in.

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Erik Granlund · February 2, 2022

I appreciated the QR code rickroll lol

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Aaron Lea · February 2, 2022

You know it’s going to be good when Matt starts off a video with “here’s something unusual”. The only thing it needed was a bad belt and a tear down repair for it to be a classic. Great find!

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Duncan · February 2, 2022

I missed the traditional teardown and belt changing. I'm sure Matt didn't :-)

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Roland Bogush · February 2, 2022

Hmm, I think this falls into the category of a poorly thought through idea that's been very well implemented! In the 1980s, I had a Braun bedside alarm clock which you turned the alarm sounder off by loudly shouting the word 'Stop' at it. It worked fine, but it was easier just to tap the top of the clock, which was the other method of turning it off. When you shouted at it, it actually went into a snooze mode. I expect the neighbours of our semi-detached home wondered why my then girl-friend needed to shout 'Stop' every few minutes every morning. Great video, as always, Mat - thank you!

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Peter Savelkoul · February 2, 2022

How many tried the QR code?

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Per Hedetun · February 2, 2022

You know the rules, and so do I.

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Per Hedetun · February 2, 2022

You forgot the wow and flutter meter! 🤓 Seriously though, it does seem to run a bit fast. Could this be intentional, in order to have an even more effective (shorter) message while still providing 30 seconds of recording time? But more likely it just isn't a precision mechanism. 🙄

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Dan Nocket · February 2, 2022

That QR code 🙃

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Grace Robbins · February 2, 2022

Wish I could scan it right now...

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Chris B · February 2, 2022

I think there is a small "narrative gap" in the video. You keep talking about the "thing" and that you can tap it. Then you show the manual, where it is called "transducer", where you can get a hint of it's second purpose, and then after the recording we suddenly see/hear the audio playing out of it, without you fully "introducing" it's audio-playing capabilities. Up to that point I still thought it was just a really big and clunky button and was wondering, how the audio was played, but it being a transducer is like the second key-feature of the whole system, and I think you glossed a bit over it. Sure it becomes apparent later in the video, but it's still weird that you explain every other feature in quite some detail, but not the transducer functionality.

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Grace Robbins · February 2, 2022

I didn't notice any logic gap - because I paused the video and read the first page of the user manual.

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Grace Robbins · February 2, 2022

This is a great little gadget - useful today as when it was conceived. Thanks for this video.. video.. video.. video. 😃 I do hope your neighbors didn't see or question you for banging on your conservatory window, though. 😅 Just tell them you were acting out a Ripley against a facehugger. Edit: I do believe that mech is running a bit fast. Edit II: I do believe I had too much caffeine when I wrote the above comment 🤪

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MrHammond · February 2, 2022

Maybe I missed it, but I was wondering if the take-up spool really is doing something, since usually endless cassettes don't even have a hub there...

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Porch · February 2, 2022

Lots of salesman like to hear their own voice, so I can see the market for this. Well except for that the design lacks style and flash. I can also see an alternative use to play barking dog sounds when someone knocks at a door.

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Eric S. Tyrer II · February 2, 2022

Billy Mays here for the Magic Message!

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Scott Call · February 2, 2022

Looks like REI is still in business but in the wiretap/law enforcement role. https://reiusa.net/

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MrHammond · February 2, 2022

From windowtap to wiretap?

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Graham O'Mara · February 2, 2022

Research Electronics Inc.... Samsung?

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OzRetrocomp · February 2, 2022

They could've been the OEM used by Research Electronics. Then again it could have just as easily been Lucky Goldstar or Daewoo.

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Novel · February 2, 2022

Oh yeah, because clearly the future was tapping a piece of glass all day. THANK GOD THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN. Sent via iPhone