Tapes on a plane
I’ve enjoyed putting this one together which means that it’ll probably bomb.
It’s a two part video
Part 1 https://youtu.be/nCTF2edNDWQ (also embedded above)
Part 2 https://youtu.be/e3KMpsJhf4w
I’ll talk about the reasoning behind making this as a two-parter in the next patreon exclusive update. In that update I’ll also include some behind the scenes clips on the (less than) special effects I‘ve used. All being well, that update video should follow in a couple of days.
Have a great weekend.
Mat.
Comments (109)
Snappy title.. I'm looking forward to part II
Any possibility we can get a copy of the BGM tape?
I can’t legally distribute something that I don’t own - but you can hear a version of it here https://soundcloud.com/lanarchal/british-airways-boarding-music-circa-1999
Just saw your "omnibus edition" at https://youtu.be/MU02pQe3E5Q. It certainly 'scans' better, from beginning to end, in my opinion. 😊👍
Both parts are excellent. Love the puppet work in Pt 1. Love the detailed drill down in Pt 2. One compliments the other, and a wholly fascinating subject.
Part 1 was the main course which is what you should have before part 2, desert!
I don't think I've ever heard but did you make the puppets or buy them? Always nice to see them return.
Here's the history http://www.techmoan.com/blog/2009/2/26/the-muppet-whatnot-workshop-experience.html
Maybe the full BGM would be something for the Pendant channel? I have a small 'collection' of this stuff and would love to have a listen.
That was a great set of videos. I love the ingenuity of how you recorded the eight separate tracks from the original reels. That was seriously impressive!
Thanks - sometimes you just have to work with what you’ve got.
Very neat piece of tech. Thanks for the effort—I’m sure getting that audio going was a joy! Can’t wait for the next part.
You may be interested in this avionics walkthrough of a recently retired British Airways 747. In particular at 9.22 when they briefly show a more modern equivalent of the music/announcement system using DAT. https://youtu.be/yq8wgJO-JXY
Thank for the link.
Awesome video as usual! A question though, could you possibly upload all of the audio from the tapes that you've recovered? Would be quite nice to hear the Swedish announcements for example. Cheers!
I've only respooled the BGM cart and most of Cart A. I can't share the BGM as someone somewhere made it - someone commissioned it and someone owns it - and none of those someones are me. However I'll try to share what I've got from Cart A if anyone really wants it - however you've heard almost all of it.
(Oh, by the way, I saw what you did there on the title.)
I'm irrationally happy with the title.
Fascinating, Mat. That was an innovative solution to playing the tapes. I would probably have tried taking a head out of the machine or something. Well done. In addition to two interesting videos, you now have 20 minutes of background music you can use in any future video. (I quite liked the music actually. Maybe that makes me weird.)
I really like the music too. I'm just wondering whether I should try to get away with using it - sometimes these content matches turn up years down the line and could decimate the back catalogue.
Enjoyed both videos, thanks Mat. The idea of splitting the videos is a good one. And for the first time in many weeks I haven't rushed onto eBay or Amazon to buy what you've been covering - in the last few weeks I've bought 8 track kit, a Neal recorder, field telephone, equipment vac, background music system, Panasonic flip clock radio, the list goes on..... This time the undocumented multipin aviation connector was the equivalent of a cold shower :)
That's quite the collection of stuff. Even I'm not too sure I'd buy all of these again if I had the chance again.
I had heard some of those - but only because I worked for an airline. (Not BA).
You picked the correct muppet for this bit, Matt: His skin tone matches the life vest!
Guess you take out those tape heads if you’re not interested in the unit
Thanks for the videos Mat, I enjoyed them. I was anticipating hearing "Flippin' 'Eck" when the brace announcement was played.
I do get a thrill seeing these things the public was just never meant to see. It's like peeking behind the curtains in a theatre
Good fun on both parts! Glad to see the return of the puppet(s). My only editorial remark: would have loved some more close-ups of those gnarly-looking circuit boards! 😁
Maybe I'm the only person who noticed the the United airlines livery during the ditching portion. I'm guessing it's a nod to the miracle on the Hudson. I really like the attention to detail Mat.
The BGM is pretty cool! It has a pleasant ambient vibe that would not be out of place in a "chill out" room at a rave. RE: B-Roll - If The Muppets met the Thunderbirds!
I really like the BGM - it'd be great if I could use it without fear of repercussion.
Part 2: nice! I suggest you stikkit in a box and send it to Big Clive dot com and see if he can make sense of the whole thing. Also: if you'd buy the 757 to play the tapes, could you then send it back and get your money if you're under 14 days? ;)
That's odd. The message I posted yesterday has vanished, and I certainly didn't delete it. Is the app playing up for anyone else? I'll check the desktop version shortly. EDIT: Nope! How odd.
I wonder if they had demographic info on the passengers, or if they just put the Greek announcements on when they were flying to/from Greece.
If my experience of flying is indicative, they just base it on where they're flying from and to. Like when you're flying to France from the UK you'll get English and then French; flying back you'll get French and then English.
Just today I watched a YT video about pre-flight announcements, and what they should be. A bit under 7 minutes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZB4_-tiRt0
That announcement about cabin depressurisation went on and on. I reckon most passengers without an oxygen mask would have passed out from hypoxia before the end.
It repeated to a degree as well - the bit I’ve uploaded is the last half.
I remember on armrests in airplanes it had a small numeric display and up/down buttons that would let you select the announcement language of you choice. Maybe that's how part of it worked.
Pretty interesting. I thought you didn't fly on airplanes? Or maybe just not anymore?
Not for a decade or so, no. The last time I flew this thing was probably still being used.
I'm an aviation buff so this was cool to see Mat. Would be fascinating to find the other end of this thing that let the cabin crew select and play the message they needed to play.
Oddly enough - here's a walkthrough of a retired B747-400 airframe showing the audio control. The narrator says the announcements are played through digital audio tape but I'd bet money this is the same system as the B757. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yq8wgJO-JXY&t=562
Neat!
I was expecting the voice on the tape to go "Flippin' Eck" at some point in time. Don't know why... ;-)
I haven't watched this yet... Did Mat make the joke about getting these mother flippin' tapes off this mother flippin' plane?
Unfortunately the video title only came to me at the end when I was forced to think of one.
The real question is, did you buy that life jacket especially for this video? Love it!
Yes - it’s on the expenses.
lol, the muppet scenes
Ach, that's too bad. I'm not a massive Youtube consumer, but I remember (ages ago) you turned up in an 8-Bit Guy video I was watching. It was like Avengers Assemble (for middle-aged nerds).
Tune in for the Geek Therapy Radio. Among its frequent guests are 8-Bit Guy, LGR and This Does Not Compute. A couple months ago there was a round table episode with all of them.
The only other person I Patreonise is a genuine (somewhat-odd) genius who trades as 'Look Mum No Computer'. I bet he could do something wonderful with that tape unit, Mat. Do a crossover!
The tapes in this one have all been ‘harvested’ now (or encountered an incident in the process) - long story short - Tape player with no tapes.
That was really interesting - loved both parts! I was hoping for a post crash edit though where the puppet had some socks and underwear on his head as he stared at the camera with the "can you believe it" look on his face -- because when a plane crashes one of the biggest issues are peoples luggage breaking open and their underpants going everywhere.
I’ve encountered a crashed caravan on the motorway - no one wants to see their pants in the fast lane.
Part 2 is the best part for me! I enjoyed it all. Keep up the good work.
Part 2 is for me and the Patrons - part 1 is more for everyone else.
I caught the "400 Hz" at the beginning and assumed "ship" but you quickly cleared that up. Did you do the aircraft flying effects in some sort of Pixar-like animation program? Brilliant!
I outsourced to ILM. I think they outsourced to the lowest bidder.
We used to find bits of kit like this in our electronics scrap dealers in London. People would buy them for the components inside.
You can be so cruel, having just been furloughed, made redundant, pensioned off after 33 years of flying, this was a reminder of the part of the job I hated. Listening to the cabin crew give the ‘insurance speeches’ nobody listens because they all know best, but if the worst happens and they are injured through stupidity - we’re covered. Cynical but true. Keep up the good work.
Hi Terry - what did you fly?
I am obviously a tad bit more afraid of flying than I thought, because listening to that hard landing messaged made my hands start to sweat, haha. Great videos, by the way!
Did he dangle an upside-down plane with fishing wire and recorded it upside down / flipped the video? Because if so, that's a really clever trick.
He/I did - but I’m definitely not clever, I just nick ideas from the pros.
That worked well as a two-part, of course I was interested in both parts. I don't think I appreciated quite how universal quarter-inch tape was until you showed us.
I'm a simple man; I see puppets, I click the video.
Apparently videos do better with a silly surprised face in the thumbnail - now that’s definitely not something I want to do - I’d rather take the hit on the views, however it seems my green friend will do anything to get famous.
I was hoping for an mp3 of the boarding music. I could jam to that all day.
It’s a really nice piece of music - so nice that someone must value it. I really enjoyed listening to it though.
No I’m fine. We’ve just been tuppeed to another subsidiary. Loose staff travel and some benefits but still have a job, so better off than a lot of others. Loved the 757 but they had to go as the cargo hold could not take standard baggage containers(fuselage too narrow ) that were part of Terminal 5 baggage automation, which went spectacularly wrong on opening 😳
Both parts one and two were entertaining in their own ways. Personally it feels like a natural split in content type, so if that was the aim I think you nailed it. Your sense of humor is always fun no matter what type of content it is though.
I agree. To me the two parts are so different in tone and pacing that they wouldn’t even go together - it’d be like adding a Looney Toons cartoon to the start of Schindler's List.
Omg that music takes me right back. Have worked for British Airways since 1987 until last weekend😢. Listened to that music on trips to Amsterdam and Paris, defiantly non descript background music.
Sorry to hear about your job old chap - that’s seriously bad news. This video probably hasn’t helped, so sorry about that.
New patron here, and very happy to be part of the club. The second part of the video was very, very interesting to me. But the first one was really funny and the pedant made me laugh out loud at least twice. So, I'm sure that the first part will be a hit. In fact, I bet you it will get 500.000 views in 15 days. If I'm right, you'll have to reply to the three most irritating comments on youtube, and be very kind to them and not sarcastic at all. Deal?
It’s a bit of an ask - perhaps I’d be better steering clear of the comments for my own good.
This is amazing! Any chance the full audio could be made available over at the Pedant channel?
Well you’ve pretty much heard it all in English - at least the interesting bits. However if you want I’ll edit it all together and put it here on Patreon. There were significant ‘issues’ with retrieving the audio, so all I’ve got to share is the English versions.
I wonder if those were manually triggered by the Flight Attendants in case of emergency...
"There may be more than one jolt." Magnificent production values!
LMAO the pedant had a really bad day flying British Airways :) Great fun
Not too enthusiastic about the two-parter, but what was in the videos was great as always! Loved the content. Will flight recorders be next, perhaps? I don't think you should worry too much about the impatient among your audience. I've noticed that you put YouTube's new chapter feature to good use. Thus, the impatient could simply click the appropriate timestamp. For me, part 2 seemed more suited as a part 1. And what was part 1 would normally be the cherry on top of a "standard" Techmoan video. Also, there's a HUGE aviation fanbase on YouTube that you'll hopefully be able to reach even if this was a single, long, video. Once you get all the aviation geeks on Patreon, perhaps you'll be able to bid on that 757 as well. 😁
I see a lot of stats and comments that most people will never know about and the world has changed. More about this in the Patreon Exclusive Update Video. It’s just one click for a viewer who is interested in part 2.
Awesome videos, thanks, Mat! I disagree that this video will flop. It has excellent crossover appeal to the AvGeek community. I'll seed it to those communities when it goes public.
Well we’ll see, fingers crossed. There’s a week to go before it goes public .
LOL, great use of the muppet in a video. Love the subject matter.
‘Best use of a Muppet in a video’ sounds like an Oscar category.
Part of me kind of wants Simfest UK to go and buy one for their 747 fixed base simming cockpit.
Techmoan is never boring. I love aviation stuff found this really interesting. Presume the film you got would come via video recorder, seem to remember you alluding to it in your video 8 video. Hope u been ok with the heat Mat
I’m up north - it’s just slightly warm here - a bit stuffy. The BA’s 757s were around for quite a while so the in-flight entertainment probably changed quiet a bit over the time these planes were in service - but yes more than likely some of it was served from Video 8 - probably to shared CRT monitors down the centre of the plane.
Good decision to not buy that "something". Love this kind of humor so much.
Your puppetry is really quite good. I swore I saw the puppet's expression change, just from the body language.
I was happy with the ‘sit back down on the seat’ movement - sometimes it almost looks like I know what I’m doing.
Well, I'm glad to see my Patreon contribution is being put towards the very latest in cutting edge special effects. :D The puppet reactions were priceless...guess that's fate repaying him for all those snarky YouTube comments... Pretty fascinating stuff. If it were me in the water landing, though, I'd want to hear announcements coming from the crew instead of a recording. Hearing a cheery, pre-packaged message (as if you were on hold for customer service) before your potential doom is almost as macabre as the event itself.
I’ve got to think these are probably more than likely a back-up option for if the microphone has flown out of a window - or the crew all got locked in the toilet together. You can see from this what little I understand about aviation.
Very interesting to see, cool that it even has Belgian French, Flemish and Swiss German (yeah!) as language options :-D
You’ll have to forgive my ignorance on this, but until I saw this label I wasn’t aware that Swiss German was a thing. How different is it?
Despite the fact that big capacitor has been discharged for 10 years, I'm sure the capacitor safety squad will be commenting in force soon.
Yep the Cap squad never sleep. Pointing out the obvious to people who aren’t interested since 1972.
As a student pilot and Hifi nerd, this one really hit a chord with me. That was great. You could always get an older model of a Cockpit voice recorder which I believe used tape. They have the bonus of having available control panels however I don’t know how much luck you’d have getting a result there.
I did pick one up a while ago - but it was blank. I think I’ve probably ticked this one off the list now.
Wow, the BA English voiceover seemed way more amateur than I expected. I would have assumed BA would have gone for a voice with real authority.
I wonder if they wanted it to seem more ad-hoc so as to make things appear less serious to prevent panic. ‘Oh don’t worry, we’re just landing on water - it’s no biggie’.
Hit Patreon hoping to see some TechMoan content, Mat never disappoints. This was cool.
Oh these days I would consider it nostalgic. :)
Love the post title, will get to the content later ;)
Very interesting, thank you
