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March 14, 2020

Quick extra - Is the EP6 cam suitable for repair vids?

Is the EP6 head-mount cam suitable for repair vids?

Short answer: Not really. 

Nine minute answer - watch this test video:

https://youtu.be/5MT3RHN3Vi0

Comments (43)

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David Simmons · March 23, 2020

I’d defintely keep in your toolobox mate, as there will be a situation when you need it, but it would definitely stick out on your recent videos unless your can get the lighting just right.

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Adrian · March 21, 2020

For me definitely not. I also felt seasick :-(

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Sven Bornemark · March 17, 2020

I'm geting slightly seasick when watching this in full screen.

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David Perek · March 16, 2020

The Vestibulo–ocular reflex is a miraculous thing.

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Big Car · March 16, 2020

It reminds me of a Big Clive video, but yes - too shaky. I'm OK with the image quality though.

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Asaf Sagi · March 17, 2020

Big Car and Big Clive, part of the Big Network.

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Mickel · March 15, 2020

Yes, but don't point your Bic pen a things anymore! ;-)

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Nathan Hood · March 15, 2020

I apologize if I'm misremembering, or am restating something from above, but I think in the initial video for the camera it's minimum focal length was .5m (19.6in for us yanks) and I think some of those shots, especially of holding your phone close got inside of that distance. Maybe in the future, they'll release one with a shorter minimum focal length. That said, I was pleased to see everything was pretty well centered. I expected everything in the video to be displaced 3 or 4 inches right of center, and it wasn't. Were you intentionally compensating for the camera being offset to the left, or was the camera giving that well aligned of picture on its own?

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Techmoan · March 15, 2020

Yes the focal distance is one of the reasons it’s unsuitable - along with the fuzzy image quality, inaccurate white balance and under exposure. The whole video has only been uploaded to provide a visual demonstration of the lack of suitability. It’s one thing saying that it doesn’t really work - but my plan was to upload a video that demonstrates clearly how and why it doesn’t really work - by using it to shoot the very thing that I believe it isn’t suitable to shoot. As for lining it up - I just framed it on the phone screen and then carried on with the objects in the same area/frame.

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stuckforever · March 15, 2020

I think this would be fine enough quality to splice in a few shots of during a normal video!

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OzRetrocomp · March 15, 2020

True. The EP6 footage is satisfactory for a few shows, or maybe some PIP stuff ... but it wouldn't cut it for a whole video.

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OzRetrocomp · March 15, 2020

Interesting. I kinda expected a bit of fisheye going on, but I didn't realise it'd be that obvious. The twitchy movement wasn't too offputting, but I can see how it'd be less than ideal for making such videos ... very much a case of "we'll fix it in post". Might the EP7 be more suitable? The 90 degree FOV would probably be a big help, along with image stabilisation.

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Jerrad Pierce · March 15, 2020

It's not cinematic quality, but not "Blair Witch" either. I think it's fine for what is as long as one doesn't make sudden movements, as you did looking at the phone to your left.

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Roger Beal · March 14, 2020

Not suitable: Too twitchy and laden with barrel distortion. It's not the steadiness of your head, Matt, it's the lack of IBIS and a slow refresh rate in the EP6, I'd say.

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Andy Robinson · March 14, 2020

Bit wobbly for me Matt, have you considered the Osmo pocket with a head mount. Just for repairs obviously, you need to be someone special to go out in public wearing one. ;-)

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Techmoan · March 14, 2020

My intention setting out was to review and demonstrate the Ordro EP6 in various scenarios. I appreciate now that this was probably a mistake. It seems camera reviews are better left in the past When the EP7 arrives it might have to go straight in the bin.

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Arthur Robillard · March 14, 2020

I found myself moving my head forward to try to get things in focus better and see some more detail. Obviously didn't work. But it would be nice to get SOME amount of use out of it in your regular videos to make the purchase a little more justified, if you needed it.

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Matt Tester · March 14, 2020

It would've been great six or seven years ago. The format does work though, hopefully the EP7 is a bit better. They clearly need to make a small screen that goes on the other side of your head as a monitor.

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Lilla Gubben · March 14, 2020

I thoroughly enjoy these kind of videos, and I thoroughly enjoyed this video. Of course, now I'm going to have to have a margarita to calm my nerves, but that's OK, too! Maybe it can be used in addition to other cameras... and maybe it can be mounted on a less shaky base...

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Terry Shepherd · March 14, 2020

How Dare You! rgds Greta

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David Peaker · March 14, 2020

While the image stabilized version might remove the shakes, I found the barrel distortion almost as disconcerting. The sign seems to be changing shape whenever you move it.

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Roland Bogush · March 14, 2020

Twice in one day, Mat? You'll be getting quite a reputation! Thanks for two great videos. As everyone says, the video quality is ok, it's just the movement which induces motion sickness. Also, the wide angle of the lens causes the straight Kenwood sign to look banana shaped whenever it moved to the top of the frame. It will be interesting to see how the image stabilised model compares. As well as a new bulb, I think that lamp needs a new starter, the current one also looks to be held in with tape for some reason. Have a great weekend, Mat.

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Gareth R · March 14, 2020

Nice try Mat

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Linh Pham · March 14, 2020

I had to stop after about 30 seconds or so as I started getting a headache and eyes started feeling very cross.

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Techmoan · March 14, 2020

Yes you see what I mean about it being unsuitable.

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Colin Bartlett · March 14, 2020

I'd be curious to see how the GoPro Hero 8 held up to this kind of use in repair videos. Somewhat awkward to mount to your head but I've been very surprised and pleased with the stabilization in it.

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Ben Manthey · March 14, 2020

Glad I don't suffer from motion sickness.

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Duncan · March 14, 2020

I would guess other people (like Big Clive) who do this sort of thing mount the camera from the ceiling or something. The big problem is how much you move your head around. Almost as bad as when I've tried to film concert footage using a handheld camera. The only way that would work is if you were filming a band you found really boring.

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Rudo de Jong · March 14, 2020

I like the viewpoint and I can imagine it’s more convenient to record what you are doing with your hands, but unfortunately there’s too much Mr. Shaky Cam™ ;)

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Peter Rogers · March 14, 2020

Good try, but the lack of stabilization, poor color and poor white balance make this is "pass" for me (if you're looking for votes). Maybe the stabilized version would do better. Or even just a good old GoPro with a head mount.

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Sterling Treadwell · March 14, 2020

Yeah without a bit more steadycam on it, it is very twitchy. Having the video footage smaller in a window it's not as bad. Possibly using it as a PiP for certain builds where getting a stationary cam is awkward or problematic (also to avoid having to constantly shift the cam to a new angle for the shot) it could work. But primary vid.. nope, I agree it's not going to cut it.

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Techmoan · March 14, 2020

It was nice to not be reaching over the top of a camera on a tripod for a change.

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RBMH · March 14, 2020

Well, maybe not the best, but do you think it might be any good for grabbing stills when working hands free? I do like the honesty of your assessments, as you are thorough and give real world examples. Not bad on the audio, and nice sign. I would like to see the repair video. It is a very neat one, even if you overpaid, but still very cool!

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Will Pherigo · March 14, 2020

The video’s not that bad, it’s just that all the first person movement is unhelpful. A fixed position is better, as you indicated. Question: I’d assume a GoPro would solve your problem and produce better quality video, right?

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Fabio · March 14, 2020

Honestly I don't think the video quality is that bad, of course it's a lil bit soft and it's no match with your usual 4k setup, the real problem is the complete lack of IS and the low framerate, I started to feel sick while watching it on my monitor just after a few minutes, it wobbles way too much. And I would say that 120° FoV is too much for this kind of videos, the EP7 as you said having 90° and IS could be a good compromise

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Travis Smyre · March 14, 2020

The framing and sound work well. It seems a bit dim (lighting) and is in need of stabilization (EP7) to make it watchable in a continuous take. Quite useful though to give the viewer a direct POV when making repairs and tinkering.

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Techmoan · March 14, 2020

The lighting is blindingly bright in this room - the auto exposure on the camera under exposes it though whatever the levels I put the lights at - from off to maximum - it's always murky.

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Mark Hesse · March 14, 2020

Too bad this camera didn't quite work out. I would think the narrow FOV on the EP7 would also rule that one out for repair videos. Now you've simply got to do a video about replacing the Kenwood sign lamp with LEDs, preferably something that could be programmed to shift through the color spectrum, excluding BROWN of course. Speaking of Technology Connections, he would likely advise that this quick extra type of video be referred to as a "Quixtra."

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K Smith · March 14, 2020

Interesting how our brain is able to "cancel" much of our head movement when we are fixing something, etc. Watching a video like this lets us see how much our head is constantly moving.

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Graham Eida · March 14, 2020

Framed it well, maybe a candidate for the anti shake software you used before

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Techmoan · March 14, 2020

If I were using it for this I’d definitely apply anti-shake.

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MVVblog · March 14, 2020

I'm going off topic, just to tell you, that I suspended the Atari video music project because of the coronavirus disaster in Italy. But I hope the situation will be resolved soon.

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Techmoan · March 14, 2020

I understand. Whenever you get back to it, however long that takes, I’ll be happy to show it off. Take care.