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February 22, 2019

Pat-Ex: Mid-to-late February random update.

https://youtu.be/qcTdATe5_pY

A quick Patreon exclusive update about nothing in particular.

Links to things mentioned in this video:

VHS Box Animation YouTube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9DfSCk-6Ko

Sony Walkman Story NHK Video. http://www.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/ondemand/video/2072007

Sketching a chubby faced YouTuber https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roc05gYD_Qs

Also as requested by Patron Brad Jones - I've put together a (hidden) youtube playlist containing all the Patreon Exclusive videos so far (I think) 

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN2yCnHTG_6p1imVY9hDAl7Qta6n3i7GD

Comments (83)

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Andrew Torrance · August 4, 2019

I understand entirely. I thought of it as a way to get through stuff you might not wish to make a full video of. You're just too damn professional, Mat. You need to get some of my slackness and ineptitude in your life.

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Andrew Torrance · August 4, 2019

Also, remember that between 05% and 1.0% of any population are bona fide, need-to-be-locked-up psychopaths. Based on your current subscriber number, that's 4035 people. Anyone who puts content on the internet needs to always remember that, and take open comments with due skepticism.

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Techmoan · August 4, 2019

I think those numbers are pretty low. In my experience 8/10 people are loonies and the other 2 are likely to go nutty because of the other 8.

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Andrew Torrance · August 4, 2019

I'm late to them, but I love these chats. I suspect that people who worry about 'negativity' may from a North American culture, and need their beer weakened a bit. I'm a 50 year-old Glaswegian; negativity is what gets me up in the morning.

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Paul Fontaine · March 1, 2019

Mat, I'm sure I'm not the only Patron that prefers your "uncensored" videos. It doesn't bother me if you lay down some truth from time to time. Your previous unedited Pat-Ex video was hysterical. I felt your pain! :)

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Techmoan · March 2, 2019

It’s a really weird balance that I’m finding impossible to strike. Honesty involves adversity which translates to negativity to some. Positivity involves selectivity which is whitewashed fluff without the truth. I feel that these chats cause more harm than good. I need to rethink them.

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Nylaryx · February 26, 2019

When the youtube business is all said and done, would you ever consider making an autobiography?

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Techmoan · February 26, 2019

Unfortunately I’d be terrible at that - I have an appalingly bad memory and there are decades of my life that I’ve forgotten. I can just remember the odd snippet here and there...enough for a pamphlet.

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Sterling Treadwell · February 25, 2019

A great and unexpected video. Thanks mate! I think one thing you could do is actually do one of these where you actually ARE being negative and complaining so folk can see the difference between that and your normal discussions. Might temper their whining. :) Call it Techmean.

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Raymond Okoński · February 25, 2019

I just saw this device and thought of you... knowing our dislike of things OLED, I did like this implementation of having your own local Bus & Train ‘home’ departure screen. Not cheap, but the desktop one ticks all my ‘curiosity’ boxes. You can view it here! <a href="http://ukdepartureboards.co.uk" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://ukdepartureboards.co.uk</a>

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Rich · February 24, 2019

Did this just notify you? :D

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Techmoan · February 24, 2019

Yep.

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Balázs Keresztury · February 24, 2019

Now I finally know why youtube keeps recommending videos I've already watched. As a Patron I usually see the first version of your videos and apparently any followup video count as a new one. You should know that because of this people might click on "I'm not interested" (to avoid having already watched videos in recommendations and related videos) which might have an adverse effect on your channel's reach (meaning youtube could draw the conclusion that your videos are not interesting to your subscribers)

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Techmoan · February 24, 2019

Yes I’ve thought about that too. I’m not sure if there is any significant effect, but there’s also little I can do about it. I think I just have to accept that not everyone will see every video.

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Per Hedetun · February 24, 2019

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw</a>

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David Mills · February 24, 2019

I agree with the others here, don’t worry about complaining or even being miserable. The idea that you have to pretend to be cheerful all the time is unhealthy. We’re here to hear from you, whatever your mood or opinions.

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Arthur Robillard · February 24, 2019

"You don't have a countdown timer." LOL! Priceles. Cheers! Thanks for the video.Always nice to hear from you.

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David Fulton · February 23, 2019

I think the end-of-the-month wrap-up is a good place to vent. Why not? You're never nasty or cruel, and complaining in an Englishman's god-given right! I'm happy as long as you don't start these videos with "Hey guys!!! Wasss upppp?" like 99% of presenters on youtube. (Although imagining Curious Droid doing so is amusing!)

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David Fulton · February 23, 2019

As for your appearance, I think you come off quite well. You look to me like a young James Burke! In a way, you are actually showing us "connections" through technology, such as when you crack open an old unit of some sort and we can see how the bits and pieces evolved with each iteration of a technology.

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David Fulton · February 23, 2019

I've been a fan for awhile and this is my first viewing of a monthly "wrap up." I have to say I enjoyed it a lot more than I expected to. You digress in a seamless manner that adds a nice conversational tone without the usual blather that I hear from some other hosts.

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Johan Jernqvist · February 23, 2019

I quite enjoy The Dark Side of Techmoan.

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Holger P Kleinert · February 23, 2019

You must have some TV presenter blood in you. You managed to time exactly 20:00 minutes without a timer. Coincidence? No, profession :)

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Jac Goudsmit · February 23, 2019

I can definitely confirm that thing about exposure lasting for a very short time on Youtube. 8-Bit Guy did a mailbox video last year where one of the items was my kit that I sent him. I got something like 5 orders on the same day and 3 orders the day after, whereas I got one, maybe two orders a week before that. And a while after the video came out, it died down to almost zero: it turns out someone in Japan built the kit for less money than I was asking. That's okay, the kit is open source and everyone can build their own without buying it from me. But in that respect, the extra exposure had a positive short-term effect but a negative long-term effect. Oh well.

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Jeremy Mankin · February 23, 2019

What's the name of the countdown timer product you use so I don't buy one? ;-)

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Techmoan · February 23, 2019

That was an Amazon Alexa.

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Peter Laws · February 22, 2019

I love these - thanks for doing them. Don't self-edit the "negative" stuff on my account. I don't find you overly negative and hell, if something annoys or your rubs you the wrong way, you are allowed to be negative! Thanks. Hope your visit goes well.

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PKFC · February 22, 2019

I watched the NHK video and found the narration not quite as stuffy as you exaggerated, but still on the level as a show here "How it's made" which voice overs factory production lines to highlight common products manufacturing processes. I think that video strikes that balance between new and old viewers, but I'll agree with you on it being too light in content. Bonus points to seeing a Calgary Flames jersey (my local hockey team) in the video. I don't know how much I stuck out when I visited Japan ten years ago being 6'3". Thanks for the playlist too. I'll be sure to go back through ones I missed since I like the format

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog · February 22, 2019

I noticed that you haven't posted a new blog post on <a href="http://techmoan.com/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://techmoan.com/</a> in a while. Are you still planning on updating it?

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

I’m really not sure at the moment.

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Big Car · February 22, 2019

I've just started my own YouTube channel (Big Car), and got it terminated a few days ago by YouTube for unknown reasons (no three strikes rule). It took me a day to get it back up. I still don't know why, but they sited spamming or reuploading others content. YouTube's policies seem to be fairly random. <a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq15gUisOlhITXJf-RZUlwQ" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq15gUisOlhITXJf-RZUlwQ</a>

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

It all seems a bit random. Did you reupload anything?

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LGR · February 22, 2019

Had a similar experience recently to your "cassette tape hack" discovering, one that was an eye-opener in how the mainstream views retro computer and vintage technology in general. "Man Discovers 30 Year Old Apple Computer Still in Working Order" <a href="https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/tech/30-year-old-apple-computer-work-trnd/index.html" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/17/tech/30-year-old-apple-computer-work-trnd/index.html</a> I received hundreds of tweets, comments, and emails about it. And all I could do was think "how is a 30 year old computer functioning news?!" Yet that one guy's computer was RT'd hundreds of thousands of times and the article made the national syndicated news rounds, appeared on local TV news everywhere, made it into newspapers. I mean, a slow news day is one thing, but this just cracked me up in how much coverage it got. In a way it helped me realize that to some folks, ANY old tech that still works is newsworthy and exciting. Makes me reconsider certain video topics that I might fight mundane personally, because you never know what'll pick up traction it seems. Heck my most popular video is about installing games on a TI calculator, which I did all the time back in the day but I guess it's pretty novel now.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

Yes I saw that unfold and thought how galling it must be to see something so mundane getting so much attention when you do this stuff for years without similar exposure. I can only put it down to mainstream media’s distain for YouTube. You can make the most incredible YouTube video but there’s little to no chance of it getting exposure anywhere outside of YouTube. It’s always extra odd though when things like this get shared back to you - “you know that thing you know all about, well here’s someone else who is doing something a little bit like it but far less detailed.” That said, you’ve had a lot more widespread success than I have over the last few years. At this point I’ve stopped hoping for any more million view videos and learned to become content with a steady regular audience.

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Łukasz Nidecki · February 22, 2019

When You mentioned today MiniDisc i have checked allegro (polish equivalnet of ebay) and there was no potable MD player available! When I first checked this when Your video about first new MD release was posted to Patreon there were dozen or so of them available. So Techmoan Effect works even in Poland :D

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

It seems like there’s quite the ripple effect from some of these videos.

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MrHammond · February 22, 2019

Hi Mat, thanks again for the open-hearted video! And I'm sorry to hear that my remark about PAL and NTSC caused so many troubles... Hope you're not mad. By the way, I liked the canal walk, always good to see some green. Cheers from Switzerland.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

It's entirely my own fault for attempting to edit things after the event. It's also taught me not to try using youtube's built in editor again - so that's something I learned from the experience.

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Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog · February 22, 2019

Have you tried sending formal DMCA complaints instead of Content ID claims? This way, each video taken down counts toward the "copyright strike" system, and three strikes mean that the channel is terminated, and a single strike will place a number of restrictions on the channel. Also, if you do overflow your time, you could just cheat: speed it up when you upload it.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

I haven’t...but the channel gets terminated after three reports anyway, however they tend to spring up like weeds.

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Dan Xepha · February 22, 2019

I had to do an actual "cassette hack" the other day. Bought a double cassette from a charity shop called "The No.1 Sci-fi Album". Noticed it was recorded on chrome tape so thought it was worth picking up for a quid even if the music is rubbish as I could use them for recording. When I got home and listened to it I noticed it sounded terrible. Took a closer look at it and realised it was actually in a ferric cassette without the additional chrome holes in the top. So I had to cut additional holes in it using a hot Stanley blade. Now it works perfectly. It made me wonder how often this happens? Tapes sold in the wrong cassette and everyone who buys it just thinking it sounds crap. Have you ever had any tapes like this?

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

I haven’t, but I also don’t know anywhere near me that sells old cassettes. I’d probably buy a few if I stumbled across them and they were cheap enough.

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Mark Hesse · February 22, 2019

Always enjoy these chats. You're in Australia, right? I mean, if you're outside walking by a canal in January and the water is liquid, the sky is sunny and the grass is green you must be in the southern hemisphere. Sorry, just envious here in frozen, snow-covered Minnesota, USA of the lovely weather in the vicinity of L'pool--which is actually at a farther north latitude than I am here. Oh well, at least there are more Techmoan videos to look forward to.

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Roger Beal · February 22, 2019

Is your Dear Alexa countdown timer expecting a yank accent? Seriously ... I wonder how programmers of these devices accommodate the vast range of accents and inflection patterns in our diverse populations.

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Nuts 'n' Proud · February 22, 2019

Excuse my bad manners. Thanks for the links. I am a HAM or Amateur Radio operator and enjoy listening to public broadcasts from overseas. You get different countries on different frequencies at certiain times of the day. I am looking forward to the Shortwave radio video.

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Łukasz Nidecki · February 22, 2019

Greetings from SQ5RWU! 73!

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Nuts 'n' Proud · February 22, 2019

Thanks for the video Mat. I like my tea to brew for a full 5 minutes. I tried new fangled ways of timing after my clockwork timer wore out. I got a really basic electronic timer for £4 on Amazon in the UK. <a href="https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BMZGV4Z" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07BMZGV4Z</a> Have you thought about placing a mirror behind your camera to see when the LCD display has gone blank? Best wishes.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

I think that's the next thing to try - although I think the screen might stay on - it's just the tiny flashing red dot in the corner that disappears when it stops recording - so that might not help. It's a real design flaw and one that hasn't just affected me, as demonstrated here: <a href="https://youtu.be/ndb7wHa_MYY?t=542" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/ndb7wHa_MYY?t=542</a>

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Anders Enger Jensen · February 22, 2019

Haha, yeah that MiniDisc review was pure gold! I can’t thank you enough already! I had to up the backorder to 200 and have sold 145 of them already. Albeit the first 48 hours were reflecting your response on Youtube video releases, it did sell steady for a week, now it’s just a little drip here and there. I do have assembled versions of Retro Grooves Vol 1 and 2 plus Planet X3 Soundtrack on MiniDisc as well, but I’m only opting for 50 of each and see how that’ll turn out. :D But it was fun to see how much of a stir that little short featurette caused.

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Jay Versluis · February 22, 2019

I know what you mean - Retro Grooves 3 is currently my favorite album, and although I don't own a MiniDisc player anymore, I was seriously thinking of ordering one - it's such a great reminder of the olden times. Perhaps I'll opt for a cassette tape instead...? Or both? :-)

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Roland Bogush · February 22, 2019

Good to hear from you as always, Mat! I suspect your audience demographic is mainly middle-aged men who like to think they know a thing or two about gadgets, hi-fi and photography but who enjoy being pleasantly surprised when you show (yet another) format of which they were previously unaware. I include myself in that category, of course! We have an Alexa-enabled tv - it's a Sony; had no idea when we bought it, but you can get Alexa to interact with it via the home wi-fi network, without using any special mains adapters or anything else. So, we can ask Alexa to turn the tv on or off easily enough, but getting her to do anything else requires quite tortuous syntax specific commands which none of us in the house can remember, and to get her to change station you need to know which channel number that station is tuned to - unfortunately, you can't say 'Alex turn tv to BBC4' - won't work. So near, and yet so far.... Have a great weekend, Mat!

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

You might appreciate this old unlisted video of me controlling my TV with voice - back in 2010. <a href="https://youtu.be/w4kC0bU-ZyE" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/w4kC0bU-ZyE</a>

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Jörg Schötz · February 22, 2019

Had a hard laugh at "Good things, aren't they"! =D

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Mark Grigoleit · February 22, 2019

Well, that explains one of my pet peeves with YouTube. I've added videos to my Watch Later list, only to have them disappear without explanation a day or week later. Frustrating. Now I can see how it might be some channel re-uploading someone else's material. Less frustrating.

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Raymond Okoński · February 22, 2019

Regarding the Musicassette 'hack' - the fact that millennials may never have come across it before is no reason to 'dumb down'. I can recall the days when anyone not knowing the basics what held up to ridicule - as it helped speed up the learning process. Of course, it could all be clickbait for those that have a limited understanding, but I like to think your contributions are for the discerning viewer - I'm pretty well clued up, but I still learn new things from your videos - but I wouldn't thank you for going down-market to such a degree that took a 'Tomorrow's World' approach that was light on substance and pandered to the idiot fringe! Have a safe journey - and take it easy!

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

I won’t be changing anything, I really just wanted to comment about the wide ranges of experience that an audience can have. I like to share things I find interesting, and since the Mrs won’t listen to me, I thought it would be good to do that here. I’m starting to think though it’s not quite working out as planned. Its probably time I gave these chats a break.

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Matt Tester · February 22, 2019

A Smart on the driveway again? Did you get your hands on another Roadster? Regarding the Wena I think the textured cover on the screen is diffusing the light and making it too dark, maybe something they will improve over time.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

The most recent roadsters are twelve years old now and unfortunately unsuitable for keeping on a drive all year in the rainy and cold north west. The days of interesting affordable cars are behind us now, which is a shame.

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Phily · February 22, 2019

You need to get a Google Home and replace that Alexa unit :)

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

That’s what’s currently in the kitchen. This is the device that got sacked from the kitchen.

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Terry Shepherd · February 22, 2019

Hello, I admit it up front I’m just being nosey. You said you have a Smart and a Mini, but I thought you’d got rid of the Smart?

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

I reluctantly replaced the Roadster with a ForTwo for various reasons beyond my control.

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jc · February 22, 2019

Think of releasing the video as a butterfly leaving its cocoon. It may fly for a long time. It may get eaten by a bird straight away. But it’s time for it to enter the world come what may.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

That’s a poetic way of putting it - thanks.

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Stephen Bell · February 22, 2019

Great update as always, Mat. Thanks for the NHK link, that was interesting, even if the did call the Walkman the Stowaway first (as we have previously said) sorry, am I getting boring now? :) I am looking forward to seeing the Sony Shortwave. I used to be a shortwave fan, but frankly, Internet radio has taken over for me. I do still listen to NHK news from Tokyo most evenings though.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

In Japan it was always the Walkman...but yes originally they had a few different names depending on where you bought it. As far as Shortwave goes I know nothing about it whatsoever, so that’s going to be an odd video if it happens. It completely passed me by - I just remember liking the look of the radios due to all the buttons and dials.

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Henrik Wils · February 22, 2019

I don't think it's fair to say that the video is dead after 24 hours. I think that the boost you observe in the first days of a video, is your subscribers watching the video. After that it's more like bait to get new subscribers. What I've noticed about pretty much all youtube recommendations (even from channels I'm subscribed to) is that they are generally pretty old videos. Never really new ones.

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

I suppose dead is an exaggeration for dramatic effect - but many of the old videos get less than a dozen views a day - so while some people are still seeing them, it’s a far cry from those first couple of days.

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Jimmy Barnes · February 22, 2019

I’ve never seen an Echo device work so poorly! I have two and though I’m aware I don’t always use them to their full capabilities, for simple tasks like countdown timers and alarms I’ve had next to no refusals from Alexa!

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Riccardo Sacchetto · February 22, 2019

Always love these Pat-Ex videos! Thanks for doing them. I've spotted a nice EL3302 in the background, can't wait to see your take on that (probably part of the Mission Impossible series). Having a EL3301 myself, i like these early Philips cassette recorders. As for Alexa, i have a nice anecdote. I was playing with an Echo at a friend's house, i jokingly said "Alexa, fai cose", which is Italian for "do things". The Echo weirdly started replying with a bunch of numbers. We figured out it was understanding "fai cos(e)", "do cos(e)", as in calculate the cosine of e (Napier's constant). 😂

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

The 3302 appeared in the first MI retrospective. I'll be using it as a comparison in a future video. It's in mint condition, but it doesn't currently work.

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David Mills · February 22, 2019

Haha, that’s pretty much my experience with those talking cylinders.

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Paul Kavanagh · February 22, 2019

Please go back to complaining at will on these Update vids.

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Paul Kavanagh · February 22, 2019

Or is this a perfect example of a comment where you can't win? You complain, commenters complain you're complaining. So you stop complaining, and other commenters complain you're not complaining? :)

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Phil Collins · February 22, 2019

I find an argument with Alexa makes a good start to the day. Funny the TV adverts never feature her going "Hmmm, I don't know how to do that" or "I can't find a device called buggeroffyouuselesspileof junk"

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

Sequences may be shortened (to remove swearing).

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DOSGamerMan · February 22, 2019

Alexa: Set a 10 minute timer. Alexa: How long left? works almost every time for me...

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

All these voice 'assistants' have their own preference for how things are said. The other day I asked - "How many days are in February this year" - Google went into a long chat telling me all about leap years without actually answering the question. Siri said "It's seven days until then" - Alexa was the only one that answered the question accurately. It's a bit of a crap shoot every time I speak to one of these things.

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Shawn Byrne · February 22, 2019

Did the timer go off after 30 minutes?

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

Funnily enough it did, so I really don't know why it said there wasn't a timer set.

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john · February 22, 2019

I admire the refreshing honesty in your chats; it's much more compelling compared to youtubers who give a sanitized version of events. I hope you don't feel limited in what range of things you can say. Thumbs up

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

Most viewers prefer to watch positive videos - so I'm best keeping any real difficulties or issues to myself. I know I wouldn't want to watch anyone moaning on for ages. In the past I have mentioned adversities as a jumping off point for amusing stories - but I've learned that my sense of humour of laughing at these situations doesn't always translate to other countries where people don't appreciate self deprecating humour. Laughing at your shortcomings with others seems to be a very working class British thing.

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Brad Jones · February 22, 2019

That was me! Thanks Mat! I did try to make one myself, but of course, I couldn't directly link it to your channel. Thanks again!

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Techmoan · February 22, 2019

Thanks - I get so many different things in a month I lose track of where they all originated. I've updated my post to reflect your contribution. Cheers.