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December 13, 2018

Using a tablet/phone as a Digital TV.

At the moment I'm suffering from a really rotten cold that the Mrs kindly brought home from work. Luckily I just got this simple video finished a couple of days before it hit. 

This cold has scuppered my plans to release a four-parter video in the days running up to Christmas. That's now currently in limbo while I wait for it subside and my normal speaking voice to return.

My big plan was to do a couple of simpler videos (last week's CalcuPen and this one) followed by this more complicated project...but the best laid plans of mice and men. 

Hopefully I'll be able to get back to working on the four parter as soon as possible because youtube ad revenue tends to dry up after Christmas for a few months. Getting as many  videos as possible out before Christmas is making hay while the sun shines. 

Hope you're having a good week.

Using a tablet/phone as a Digital TV. (YouTube)

Comments (44)

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Andy Kerruish · December 19, 2018

I’ve used August products for about 10 years now, from usb freeview tv recivers to WiFi dongles for hifi....so we can stream music straight to my stereo system in my Disco/Bar Garage.....yes I’ve converted my garage, , or rechargeable battery chargers, and all of them still work, and are very easy to use, this may be my next August purchase.....👍🇮🇲

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Rick Box · December 15, 2018

Thanks again for the video, I notice you have the new Ipad. It would be interesting to hear your thoughts on it!

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Techmoan · December 15, 2018

It’s working exactly as expected. I replaced my broken model with it. By now it’s a very well established experience. It’s only when it doesn’t do something that I’d really have anything to say about it.

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PT · December 15, 2018

Is that a Smart ForTwo, Mat? I love my electric ForTwo. Are you going to do a review of it?

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Techmoan · December 15, 2018

I don’t plan on doing any more car reviews.

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James Halliday · December 15, 2018

I recently bought myself one of these - <a href="https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/</a> It's also an "IP enabled TV tuner" - but geared for home installation. Power and aerial in - RJ45 IP TV out. Main differences are no battery or wifi - but supports HD and has multiple tuners. Big improvement is that you don't need to use the 'official clients', but that it's also compatible with a load of third party platforms. Ones I use are: Android TV (nVidia Shield) - Live TV app instantly picks up on it Plex (although requires you to be on a paid version) - Integrates beautifully. Full PVR functionality (guides, recording, pausing etc), but even more usefully adds the TV into the Plex ecosystem. Can stream, sync, transcode both the live TV and stored programmes to your phone or other plex clients. Doesn't just replace your Tivo-like box, but gives you what is AFAIK the most flexible and free solution out there.

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RBMH · December 15, 2018

Pretty cool. Wonder if there are some for USA? Might be worth looking in to. I can't get much of anything where I live.

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Ken Giroux · December 15, 2018

The device seems cool. But wow you get so many over the air channels. I would be lucky to get 20 here.

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Gareth R · December 14, 2018

Man in high castle raider

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Sterling Treadwell · December 14, 2018

can you link to it with a smartwatch and go all Dick Tracey?

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Sterling Treadwell · December 14, 2018

Actually, pardon my ignorance, have you done a vid on a tv watch yet?

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Roger Beal · December 14, 2018

I wonder how many digital TV signals can be grabbed out of the air free in the USA. In other words, can this device be used as a very low-cost alternative to Dish and DirecTV? Anyone know? Thanks!

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Evan · December 14, 2018

in my medium-sized town there are about 20 free TV channels- there's the standard NBC, CBS, ABC, Fox, PBS but there's also a few weird channels that just run syndicated reruns all the time. Most TVs still have tuners, all you need to do is pick up a fairly inexpensive digital antenna (unless of course you want to watch on your phone or tablet.)

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Gareth R · December 13, 2018

Possibly useful for camping/ caravanning folks.

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Per 'Zapro' Jensen · December 13, 2018

Did you try the Elgato app for your device?

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Techmoan · December 13, 2018

The Elgato EyeTV app is looking for a WiFi network called Eye TV W 000612 but since my device’s WiFi name is called Meron_320029 it won’t recognise it.

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Bob Combs · December 13, 2018

A most interesting gadget... This is why we subscribe, and why you're the best. And if you had to get sick, better to do so now and be rid of it by Christmas and New Year... being sick during the holidays is the worst. Take care of yourself, Mat.

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Stephen Cairns · December 13, 2018

Nice work as ever. As others have commented, I think the need to use its own network instead of streaming over the existing one would put me off gadgets like this. Hope you're feeling better soon.

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Raymond Okoński · December 13, 2018

Bill - you used to need one to receive Radio broadcasts (1921). It has always been controlled - the radio licence was dropped - but the fee is to permit you to ‘receive’ terrestrial broadcasts, although it is to fund primarily the BBC. Because this has no advertising, it is somewhat endured. In Ireland, they pay a similar licence AND have advertising!

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Lord Brannigan-7 · December 13, 2018

I'm happy to pay, rather than endure the first ad break being after the bloody opening titles! Some money from TV licences does still fund radio too (although I'm sure you knew that).

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Peter Laws · December 13, 2018

For the trivially minded, that's an MCX connector which seems pretty common on these TV tuners - <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCX_connector" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MCX_connector</a> (radio hobbyists have discovered that these tuners often make very inexpensive Software Defined Radios - SDRs which is the only reason I have a DVB-T tuner over here in ATSC-land). Yeah, a mag mount antenna is usually a quarter-wavelength long and really would like to be sitting on a ground-plane of some sort so those commenters aren't wrong. I wonder if there are ATSC versions of this? I guess I need to get googling. Sorry to hear you aren't well, Mat. Get well soon!

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Peter Laws · December 14, 2018

<a href="https://www.rtl-sdr.com/about-rtl-sdr/" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.rtl-sdr.com/about-rtl-sdr/</a>

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Jac Goudsmit · December 13, 2018

@10:00 Was any of those other applications free? If so, did you try them with your device? If I would buy this at a store and arrived home to find that I would have to pay for the software to use it, it would go back to the store immediately. Also, forcing the user to switch Wifi networks to use it is a show-stopper. The device should only set up its own Wifi network to let you configure it, and then it should just connect to your house Wifi. And it should have its own app stored on-board, downloadable via the Wifi connection. They could even embed the app in an on-board webserver so you don't need an app and so that it will work on any decent computer that can browse web pages and run scripts. Like a TV with a web browser.

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Techmoan · December 13, 2018

The free EyeTV app is looking for a WiFi network called Eye TV W 000612 but since my device’s WiFi name is called Meron_320029 it won’t recognise it.

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Bill Basch · December 13, 2018

I think some other would-be Techmoan competitors are feeling the pressure, as they have a hard time putting out high quality videos at the rate you do, unless they are big enough to have a staff! You are one of the only first tier youtube channels in content quality, that remains a one man operation, and that in itself is amazing. I am lucky enough to be in perfect health, and I can't imagine putting this quality of youtube videos out at this high frequency! Apparently you are Superman.

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Techmoan · December 13, 2018

I’m not feeling too super today...but many thanks for the positive words.

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Bryon Smedley · December 13, 2018

I can see this as a great device for a road trip. Put the magnetic antenna on the roof of the car, give the kid(s) a tablet, then watch TV on the long car ride.

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Raymond Okoński · December 13, 2018

Why? The chances of there being anything suitable on when you need it - never mind being able to receive it! An SD Card or WiFi HD with wanted programmes is far more reliable.

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Mike in Texas · December 13, 2018

Yea, like you I need an external aerial mounted high to receive local channels.

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Raymond Okoński · December 13, 2018

Providing you have a TV licence at home, you are covered for mobile use when using batteries. Plug into the mains and it Xs. Be viewed as a ‘new’ installation. Similarly, Uni students are also fine but will not be covered if the tuner is mains powered. Again. You’d need to be ‘caught’ in the act by a Crapita inspector.

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Bill Basch · December 13, 2018

If they ever tried to charge a $200 yearly fee (or any fee) for owning a TV in America, there would be rioting in the streets that would make the mayhem in France look like a Sunday picnic.

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Roland Bogush · December 13, 2018

Gang aft a-gley. Is what the best laid plans of mice and men do! Sorry to learn you are under the weather. That looks an interesting little device, and superbly demonstrated as always. I might get one for my daughter who is away at Uni. The comment above from Peter Rogers made me wonder what the tv license implications are in the UK? Obvioulsy it’s fine in your house, but what about when you are out and about, like when you were in your car. Anyhow, get well soon, have a great Christmas and thanks for keeping us amused, informed and entertained again this past year!

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Phil Collins · December 13, 2018

Lost In Space in the garden does it for me.

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Peter Rogers · December 13, 2018

I suspect this would be illegal in the U.S.. About 6 or 7 years ago a company named Aereo ( <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo)" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aereo)</a> tried something like this. It was a big ventured-back effort (IAC invested), but it was brought down by litigation as the copyright holders ("Freeview" TV, i.e. over-the-air broadcasters) sued and a judge agreed that "retransmitting" their content over ethernet was a violation of the law. Aereo was actually quite clever. They built a little device that included an actual TV antenna to receive the broadcasts and then retransmit them over ethernet (the internet) to the subscriber. Each subscriber had their own little dedicated device installed in a vast data center.

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Jac Goudsmit · December 13, 2018

I don't think this would be illegal in the US. For one thing, you can only use it if you're connected to the Wifi network of the device itself; the device doesn't connect to your home Wifi (and therefore can't connect to the Internet either (*) ). Also I wouldn't be surprised if it only streams to one client so you can watch TV on (say) your tablet or on your phone but not both at the same time. I would say that has a much better chance of making it through a court case than Aereo. Besides, Aereo was set up from the beginning as an attempt to circumvent rebroadcasting rights and depended on a back-end with thousands of tiny antennas. This is just a device by a Chinese company that makes a receiver that happens to not be connected to a screen. It would be much more difficult to drag into court. By the way this probably uses DVB-T, not ATSC so it would be unusable in the USA.

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Jörg Schötz · December 13, 2018

Some questions raising after viewing the video: is it still the first DVB-T version? Which was canceled in Germany last year and being substituted by DVB-T2 HD (not only T2, as this doesn't support H.265)? All old DVB-T devices where rendered obsolet by this end, which caused much electronic trash. And then while using this TV app, is there any other communication possible? With earlier iOS versions when using WIFI which supports no internet-connection the device was completely deaf. And last: I don't watch linear TV anymore, but I wonder, if the paid TV apps does it better, then this device? Of course, without WIFI you have to use mobile data, which maybe much more expensive.

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Johan Roman · December 13, 2018

All my best to you!!

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Jörg Schötz · December 13, 2018

Thanks for the video! Get well soon!

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Rafał Wiosna · December 13, 2018

Oh BTW, in the last shot – are the scrolling letters jagged – did the app forget to deinterlace it?

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Rafał Wiosna · December 13, 2018

"Siano" in Polish means "hay", so for me it's HayTV. 8^)

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DOSGamerMan · December 13, 2018

Had the current cold for 2 weeks now. And its not bloody shifting. Get well soon!

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Techmoan · December 13, 2018

Thanks - hopefully it shifts a bit quicker than that. You get well too.

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evilution · December 13, 2018

I wonder if the free EyeTV software would work to save £2.99 on the official app. I have the Elgato EyeTV diversity dongle attached to my iMac. Still working and going strong for the last 10 years.

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Techmoan · December 13, 2018

I should try that Elgato app, didn't think of it.