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February 21, 2018

The Backwards Record

Here's the short video about an interesting record that was mentioned in Monday’s surprisingly well received forty five minute blatherthon.  

The topic of this video was suggested by a Patron (Roland Respondek) and if you have an idea for something you’d like to see in a video, please let me know. You can always message me on here or via the Patron-only email address input@techmoan.com

UPDATE: The video above has been replaced with an extended one that now includes a quick demo of the record on a Linear Turntable - (as suggested by Roland Bogush in the comments below). This kind of feedback is very useful because it helps me improve the video before it goes fully live.

This Backwards Vinyl Record isn't just a gimmick (YouTube)

Comments (17)

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Vinushika · March 1, 2018

Interesting stuff. I never really thought about this, but then I started realizing that a lot of records I've played, especially random J-Pop stuff, often has a soft calm track at the end of each side... I figure this is part of why DJ 12" even at 45 RPM end well before the center of the disk, in my experience.

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Roland Respondek · February 21, 2018

The 150x part looks so freaky and unusual. I legitimately thought the DP47 would struggle, since its quite a highly advanced turntable. Cool!

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Techmoan · February 21, 2018

I thought it might have a problem too. I was keeping a very close eye on it.

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Jac Goudsmit · February 21, 2018

Heh, immediately as I read what the video was about, I thought "that wouldn't have played on the linear record player I once owned". I wonder if there are any linear players that follow the needle both ways, inwards as well as outwards. Mine could only leave the arm in place or go inwards, it basically was a little light that would hit a sensor when the arm would be pulled inwards and start the motor; as soon as the motor had pushed the arm far enough, the sensor would go dark again and the motor would stop.

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The 8-Bit Guy · February 21, 2018

Interesting video. I had no idea these existed. However, I have often wondered about a vinyl record's audio fidelity between the inner and outer tracks. Since the record doesn't change speed at different points like a CD does, I figured the inner ring had less fidelity. I guess I was right.

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Roger Beal · February 21, 2018

A brilliant concept but, as others have noted, not new. From the pre-WW2 era thru the mid-1960s, many so-called transcription disks were shipped to radio stations for airplay. These were often 16" diameter; the earliest ones played at 78rpm, but as technology advanced, this was changed to either 33.3 or 16rpm. The idea was that an entire half- or one-hour radio program could be pressed on a single side of one disk, eliminating any interruptions to the broadcast. I have seen a few 12", 16rpm disks dating to the 1950s that tracked inside-out, and many years ago a 16", 78 rpm V-Disk of big band music, both akin to your demo disk.

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DisneySaintsFan · February 21, 2018

Interesting - To adjust for this, I believe Compact Discs start from the inside and change the rotational speed as the pickup moves out.

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Chris Crowther · February 21, 2018

Correct: audio CDs are constant linear velocity and vinyl is constant angular velocity.

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Peter Jensen · February 21, 2018

I have only seen this on some old pictures from a cinema, where the sound came from a vinyl and it read the vinyl from inside and out. I learnt something new today. Thanks for the video.

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Marlo Delfin Gonzales · February 21, 2018

Fascinating lesson in engineering edge cases and assumptions!

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James Eldred · February 21, 2018

Never seen someone do this for actual reasons, just as a gimmick. I used to have this promo LP from the 70s that did the same thing: <a href="https://www.discogs.com/Various-Mercury-Counter-Revolution/release/5960733" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.discogs.com/Various-Mercury-Counter-Revolution/release/5960733</a>

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Techmoan · February 21, 2018

That's interesting - and a decent compilation too.

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Roland Bogush · February 21, 2018

Fascinating! I wonder if it would be possible to play this record on your Sony PS-F9 - or would the linear tracking mechanism somehow not allow it?

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Techmoan · February 21, 2018

I'll try it out and get back to you. I forgot the F9 has a linear mechanism...That was something I wanted to try myself.

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Justin Sevakis · February 21, 2018

Very curious to see what a "zero tracker" turntable would do with this.

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Peter Roubos · February 21, 2018

Interesting. Have a great holiday Mat!

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Lord Brannigan-7 · February 21, 2018

!gnitseretni tsoM