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September 8, 2020

Trading Techniques Day Trading w/ Specials

Hey Guys, 

This one will be a little more extensive, but it’s one of the most important trading techniques and there are a lot of things to cover with it. If you are actively playing Fifa 20, you can familiarize yourself with this technique NOW! 

Day trading/flipping is generally referring to cards that are Out of Packs (OOP). They have been supplied at some point, but no longer have consistent supply. This allows them to fluctuate better than cards currently in packs (gold cards). 

This method comes with a really low risk. We are not dependent on EA whatsoever. We are trading cards based on their demand and supply. They should have stable prices and with an analysis, you should be able to establish safe buying prices. You make small profits frequently and can use this method anytime! This method does become better and better as we see more special cards! This is simply because there are more options and less eyes on select cards! 

Cards that have no supply have a tough time retaining one exact price all day. Some cards fluctuate 5%, some 10% and some even 15% plus. For example, we may know   that a card costs around 70K, but that doesn’t mean that it can’t move from 68-80K on high and low ends. 

For those that don’t know, EA currently takes a tax of 5% from each card you sell. You have to include this into your calculations to profit well. What does this mean? If you buy a card at 95K and sell it at 100K you make literally 0 coins. If you buy a card at 95K and sell it at 105K you make 4.75K. This is how I personally calculate my profit. 

Sell Price x .95 - buy price 

105K x .95 = 99.75 - 95K = 4.75K profit

I tell you all this because this means we look for cards that fluctuate more than 10% to make a good profit! I always aim to make at least 5% after tax as a gauge, so a 10% fluctuation is what we are looking for! 

How do we find cards that fluctuate? Futbin! Futbin has become a trader’s best friend over the years as it tracks card prices for us. They have a web version and an app! I much prefer the phone app! 

On the Futbin App, I like to sort by specials to make it easy. I click on the TOTW tab as you see by my terrible arrow (graphic design is not my forte ;). From here, I went to the Shapeshifter promotion as I know they presented quite a few unique meta cards. Now, all I am doing is simply looking at graphs. 






In this example, I see that SS Ribery is fluctuating from around 47K to 56K, which is going to allow really nice profit margins! I checked back in the last few days and the trends are consistent, so this example is awesome. It gives me confidence that if I buy at 48K or under I can make a profit I would be happy with! 






Let’s do the math for an example! 

55K x .95 - 46K = 6.25K profit 

Is this a lot of profit? Yes! For one card and the time it takes to search, it’s good. This method is one that can exponentially increase. It’s all about how many cards you can go through, the speed and the deals you find. I have personally made more than 1 million coins in 1 day using this method. 

Let’s take a look at another example on Xbox! 

I took the same approach with Futbin to look at Future Stars cards and found FFS Martinez as a great example. It’s important to note Xbox is much more rare than PS, which leads to even larger graph fluctuations. On Xbox especially, it can be very helpful to add cards to your watchlist to see what they actually sell at. Some cards may not sell at the peaks of their graph, but close to it. 








What’s really important to note here is that we see consistent lows for Martinez right around 79K. This means if you buy at that price there is very little risk involved, but now it’s a matter of how high you can sell him. According to Futbin, he has peak readings above 115K, but I’m doubtful he can sell this high. Instead, I would personally list around 95K to not only ensure a sale, but hopefully quicken the process. 

What other considerations should we make when selling? Profit margins! Aiming for 5-7% after tax is standard with this method. If you can sell for those margins without needing the highest peak price, that’s great! I wouldn’t hesitate to take it! This is how you keep the coins multiplying! 

When selling, also note the chemistry style! We know there are certain chemistry styles that come with an extortionate price tag in Fifa, which are Shadow and Hunter! If a card has these, they will sell higher. This is something you can get more familiar with as it also can allow you to establish specific buy prices for Hunter/Shadow cards.

IMPORTANT NOTE: Cards do not follow a timeline. You can look at graphs to establish prices, but timing isn’t relevant on a day-to-day basis. A card could be lowest at 7 AM one day, then 1 PM the next day. You can’t expect people to list at the same time each day. That’s not how it works! 

I’ll make a more specific post on this and there’s also great examples currently in Discord if you are curious! 

Lastly, this method just like any trading comes with slight risk. Let’s imagine you just buy a special Van Dijk. Before selling, EA releases a CB SBC that many people complete (remember substitute trading?), well this will likely hurt your cards price over the coming days. It’s nothing to be worried about in my opinion as the chances are low, but you can also wait until after 6 PM UK content is released if you’re worried! 

At this point, you may be wondering how we help you this in Patreon/Discord. Well, our aim is to make trading easier/quicker for you. We develop lists every few weeks outlining the best cards to trade. We take the first steps out for you. 

We do not outline prices on each card as they can change quite a bit in a few days or a week, so this wouldn’t be worth the effort. We do post some examples of ranges, so you can see! This is where it’s your job to put in the practice and effort. 

All top traders know and use this method. It’s safe. It’s good profit. You can use it daily. You are not dependent on EA to make investments rise. Use it!! 

Questions? Ask below or Discord! I’m going to leave this method a few days before providing a new one. I want to see some practice on it! 

Comments (7)

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SamMarshall · September 23, 2020

Bro just a question how can u aim for a great card in the Thursday flipping or oop for example? I used to invest with 300k on immobile before tots serie a with 14k in each card but they didn't rise during all the week 🙄🙄 ( ps: always have a bad luck in my predictions 😭😭 )

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Teto Estrada · September 9, 2020

Should we list back in the market as soon as we buy them? And if so, we list for 6 hours or constantly for 1 hour?

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JakeFUTInc · September 9, 2020

Yep I list at my target sell prices hourly as often as possible. I’ll list overnight before bed

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Gavin · September 8, 2020

Mainly works with special cards?

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JakeFUTInc · September 8, 2020

Yep! Icons work really well, too due to rarity, but they’ll have their own post. Golds fluctuate less due to consistent supply

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Alex France · September 8, 2020

Obviously it varies a lot, but what sort of times are best to buy and sell these cards

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JakeFUTInc · September 8, 2020

It works all day. All cards fluctuate. So one card may be high while another one is low!