March 3, 2022

Trans-Atlanticism Part 2 feat. Kill James Bond

Riley, Milo, Abi, Alice, and Devon read a little book called The End Of The World Is Flat, a satire about the struggles of the “TERGs” against the “Flat Earth Movement.” Or, more accurately, Riley is the only person in the world to read a book again.

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piow · March 7, 2022

y'all didn't say the thing

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aimlessCorsair · March 7, 2022

The fact that it just turns into Garth Mernghi has me in stiches. "I know writers who use subtext and they're all cowards."

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Ian Priest · March 5, 2022

Abigail's line read at the end - legitimatley disorientating

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doorhanger93 . · March 5, 2022

The most interesting thing here that the pod doesn't touch on is that in this satire of the trans rights movement there literally are no trans people - the flat earthers aren't trans, they're just politically conscious millennials with a certain opinion. That's all that it is to this guy - the whole thing is just a battle of two opposing opinions that have basically no consequences or movement attached to them, and trans people just... don't exist to him. Not even in the gross way typical terfs see trans people as dangerous, he *literally didn't consider trans people relevant enough to include in his satire of the trans rights movement.* Perhaps it's part of coming to this as a gay man rather than a woman who wants to tie her anxieties back to feminist theory? Either way it's incredibly telling.

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Fenris Mayday · March 5, 2022

Abi's line at the very end completely destroyed me

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DuosAngel · March 5, 2022

Tried to change my gender at work while listening. Am still mostly cis so I'll just have to keep practicing.

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FortressPlotter · March 4, 2022

You just know that Simon Edge has been harbouring rage about Jan Morris transitioning since 1964.

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Cate Kneale · March 4, 2022

This book has confirmed my bias that as well as being very nasty and bigoted terfs are really boring people. So dull. I don't know if this is also supposed to riff on 'the map is not the territory' but that doesn't work either.

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Oliver Cant · March 4, 2022

I still can't get my head the initial premise of "being trans is like being a cartographer". Like, what? What? The writer might as well say "being into LARPing is like travelling on horse back in Leon's city centre on a Tuesday in 1973". It's completely nonsensical and doesn't even work as a metaphore.

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Josephine · March 7, 2022

As a transbian that does indeed partake in pretend sword nerd bashing, aka larping, can confirm both being trans and larping are exactly like that

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Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep · March 4, 2022

and l was just thinking that l had too many brain cells in my head...

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Dave Clarke · March 4, 2022

The dedication to spelling absolutely everything out in that ending is amazing. Treating your audience with the same level of respect as the audience for Dora the Explorer in a book entirely about the secret billionaire plot to ruin your Twitter menchies.

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Daniel Ammons · March 4, 2022

This is someone who read about the ending of Man in the High Castle but couldn't get through the actual book, confidently thinking "Yeah, I could probably pull that off"

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Robert Connor · March 4, 2022

OK I'll bite, what's a 'gender'?

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Violet · March 5, 2022

A male goose.

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Sarah · March 4, 2022

As an Australian uncritical support for banning Australia

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Andrew Davis · March 4, 2022

The book was about gender??? Man, I was way off.

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Arthur Sexcrimes · March 4, 2022

I deeply appreciate Abi gently pulling the conversation to serious discussion of what the book says about the movement that birthed it and being repeatedly sabotaged by the Trashfuture Shitposting Corps

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Ben · March 4, 2022

Abbey’s Christopher Columbus with bangs didn’t get the respect it was due.

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Violet · March 3, 2022

It me - I'm the particularly abstruse trans person. Sorry. My degree in liberal ideology isn't good for much else. Aside from its excellent service as a paperweight.

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burgerw · March 3, 2022

You say "axe-to-grind satire", they say "screw Flanders, screw Flanders, screw Flanders"

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oranjest1 · March 3, 2022

when Abby said "gonna have to change my voice back to the way it was... detransitionnnnn NOW" i was having flashbacks to that KJB episode i was nearly sure she was gonna conjure something up at "now"

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MXA · March 3, 2022

man, before even listening to the episode the incoherency of this book's attempt at allegory is driving me insane

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oranjest1 · March 3, 2022

after hearing the bit with the admiral wanting to defend the island people, i realised a key part of understanding this book is PROBABLY that it wants to be a bit like the Cloud Atlas novel

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Jon Evans · March 3, 2022

Catgirl Thatcher Moggie Thatcher

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Bilbo · March 3, 2022

I always placed Thatcher as more of a horse girl

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RBeacon · March 3, 2022

I can't believe we get to listen to the only guy who has ever read a book for the low low price of five American dollars