histroy sent from my iphone feat. Paolo Gerbaudo
We discuss the new Epstein revelations that show that jeevacation also had a day job as a kind of nefarious Forrest Gump, facilitating or gleefully observing a huge number of the events that made our world feel so irredeemable, connecting a world of post-Soviet and American oligarchs with European aristocrats, western financiers, and basically every intelligence agency. In the second half, we talk to sociologist Paolo Gerbaudo about Ellison and friends’ acquisition of TikTok USDS and what that means for politics and social media going forward.
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Not accusing a very rich and litigious writer, but i am going to be saying 'hmmmmmmm' really loudly
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I think we should remove the bourgeoisie from power not just the nonces
We could start with the nonces and see how many we get. I bet you there wouldn't be many left.
Don't think "No sweat" went unheard, Nova. I almost passed water through my nose
Rowling found a kindred spirit in Jeffrey Epstein. They both made their fortunes by touching the lives of countless children.
0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin.
Brilliant interview, more Paolo please!
Jeffery Epstein drawing out of bear sterns gave me the phrase "load bearing pedophile" and now I'm not sure what to do about that
Obviously the "Epstein Files" are very important, and an opportunity to correct a massive moral and political failing (which, sadly, will not be an opportunity seized).
What weirds me out, though, is that people seem to have memory-holed all of the Christian churches and their modeling western political praxis, with child sex abuse as a key modus operandi. Human trafficking is *literally* the way that the Catholic Church dominated the world for centuries, and the naturalized sexual (and other physical) abuse of children was one of its key moving parts--from trans-Atlantic slavery to the breaking of labour unions.
y’all are the British political experts [laudatory] but I speculate this whole business will end Farage (hopefully)
Larry Ellison is kind of a fascinating precursor to Elon Musk he also found a way to bolt his enterprise to the government money machine at a very early point and became fabulously wealthy out of it, AND he's a WEEABOO! But like like a 4chan weeb with an waifu avvi, like a genuine Enjoyer of Japanese Culture like ancient gravures and porcelain statues
The Host by David Foster Wallace had a good description of the political position they call "Moral Clarity" that make being right wing so much easier and straightforward than anything else ... criminals do crime because they're bad, the cops put them in prison because they're good, every government program is inhenrently corruption because taxes are illegitimate (except roads and cops for some reason), immigrants are responsible for every single problem you can possibly imagine, and that's that. Makes for a very easy way to just fill the air with right-wing-ness
Sure, as long as you are completely unworldly and detached from reality at all times of the day. But that's not difficult to achieve in the US.
on the one hand yes this guy was involved but also no! the structural forces!
My sub-conspiracy theory is all the supposed insights people are credited Epstein with in these files are just other rich guy's ideas he's passing along, sometimes as his own.
If discussing the Avatar franchise in the Epstein emails, one must address this exchange with Peggy Siegel: “Did you see ‘Avator’ . I do not have a dvd because it’s 3D. The white American marines are wiped out by black people painted blue.” https://www.reddit.com/r/Avatar/comments/1ox4v7a/avatar_randomly_being_brought_up_in_those_epstein/
I just wanna make note of the criminally underappreciated "can I talk about prince Andrew?" "sure no sweat"
If November had referred Mr Burn a post apocalyptic play on KJB I would have lost my mind. So clearly she hasn't!
“He’s the doctor yakub of chuds” is the first time I’ve laughed in like a week, ty Nova
It's the Metal Gear Solid universe but instead of a brainwashed super soldier the "Man Who Sold the World" is an illiterate pedophile. ... Not an improvement.
to describe gamergate the whole microtransaction thing probably had more to do with it than /pol/ but /pol/ did have a role in creating the sort of "chud vanguard" that wasn't immediately repellant to middle class sensibilities, and was furthermore able to be harness by steve bannon (who's been on his "lets do lenin from the right" bent since Trump 1) 4chan had /new/ beforehand but that had very different vibes, much more "toxic" but in a way that was so nihilistic it would be impossible to politically organize..
Forrest Gimp
Fur Rest Gimp, of Bubba-Gimp Shrimp fame. To hear him tell it, a geopolitical hurricane wiped out his competitors and he was the only one able to provide sweet, fresh, tasty treats. He had a saying, Nonce is as Nonce does. Sometimes I wonder what he meant
excellent episode however the title did briefly make me believe that i had received some sort of spam notification
The new Prince Andrew interview film: just the same as the last one, except Milo is doing all the voices
Nova's "no sweat" deserved better
Absolutely sniped me, incredible work
“The Left finally understand the Algorithm”. Yes, it’s false consciousness as a service
This episode reminded me that Howard Lutnick showed up in the Epstein files, which makes me half-seriously wonder whether Jeff shorted airline stock in the summer of 2001… Brb, going insane.
I felt like a crazy person at that too, like wait there's a possibility the call was coming from inside the house for 9/11 as well?!
Just letting you guys know that Hussein's mic has had a bit of weird interference sound for a few episodes now. High pitched and kind of jingly, much more prominent in the left channel than the right. You can hear it in the pause after he finishes a word but not much otherwise.
Isn’t it a baby??
Man we're going to be looking at a world that looks like The Forever Winter and we're going to have the knowledge it was kind of all Epstein's fault huh
Jeffrey Epstein was manufactured in a lab to turn everyone into a conspiracy theorist.
Which itself is probably a conspiracy, since the actual takeaway from this is probably a mix of "checks and balances can always be increased, wealth can't be concentrated, and people overestimate the rationality and goodness of others".
Can confirm Finkelstein lives in Brooklyn. I once saw him at the Aldi near Brooklyn College on Super Bowl Sunday buying cheese.
cheese variety??
He may not be the protag of history, but certainly he's the protagonist of the end of history
I wish he was still alive so we could watch him die again.
Oh boy are you going to love the next wave of conspiracy theories that's already occurring. Of course now there'll always be a little doubt if they're really conspiracy theories...
Second!
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