The Sulla of Suburbia feat. Patrick Wyman
It's the free one!
Patrick Wyman rejoins the gang to discuss further historical parallels - this time, we’re looking at the history of calls for an “American Caesar” to sweep away the decrepit institutions of the late Republican period… but even a cursory scratch beneath the surface reveals that there’s less to be understood about this movement from its ostensible associations with the troubles of Ancient Rome, and more to be understood by its parallels with ANOTHER modern right wing political movement that likened itself to Ancient Rome. Oh you know the one we mean.
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In my experience the people Dr. Wyman labels gentry generally dislike their children and believe their wealth will insulate them from their own shortcomings. (I suppose you would need to think this if you were a climate change denier, which they almost always are.) The generally overpaid people in the suburbs are the ones who are constantly anxious about their Mendoza line kids. ETA: Should have kept listening. 😅
509 mentioned!
So what should we (your audience) Do About Peter Thiel?
Sorry to inform everyone that the ostensible liberals in California are probably about to breach an important line when they start rounding homeless people up and putting them in camps in the desert. When “dealing with inconvenient people” becomes a key aim of government, we’re probably not heading anywhere good.
Can confirm, Yakima is the Albania of the Pacific Northwest. No bunkers, but there are a ton of decommissioned Cold War silos all over eastern WA. You see their big concrete doors open and a massive empty hole where the rocket used to be.
This is the American version of my in-laws telling me about the unmarked and abandoned tin mines where they grew up in Cornwall.
Thielism-yarvinism-Elon musk thought
Can I just say that while it is correct to hammer the vance is a weirdo point it is rich to call any political ideology esoteric when you are in the room with Riley and November, two of nature's perfect freaks
Can you guys just hire Patrick already?
I wrote my doctoral dissertation on the Peter Thiel-Curtis Yarvin ideology and its use of existing fascist and white nationalist ideology. Not sure if anyone wants to know more about it but there is a several hundred pages sitting online if you search for it: "The Kids are Alt-Right"
not a fan of this episode basically saying my suburban portland family wants to kill me lol
If it helps I would like to kill your suburban Portland family
Patrick undersold the reactionary right wingers that live in suburban Portland. The lead up to the last election was fucking wild, and most of the agitators came from the towns around Vancouver, WA. Not to mention Portland Police Bureau has overly cozy relationship with violent far right groups
JD cries out "is somebody gonna match my freak? Is somebody gonna match my nasty?"
As probably the only listener entirely too familiar with Yakima, this is an incredibly regionally specific burn on Albania.
I can't imagine what it would be like if your entire country was as dire as yakima edit: if yakima is albania what does that make ellensburg
These magistracies got me acting unwise.
we are the descendants of the illyrians they couldn't romanise
only TF makes me feel uneducated, smart, absolutely fucking terrified and comforted that none of us are alone at the same time
Trascending history and the world, a tale of Sullas and swords, eternally retold...
Portland resident here to confirm what Patrick says about the suburbs.
1000%
Hate it when the steppe nomad gets stuck in the washingge machinne
Yay Patrick ep! *Rome emoji*
For the record I wrote this before pressing play, so thanks for that segue Riley
Played too much Kaiserreich, can't stop thinking about Douglas MacArthur
Yeah, The Burger King may need some saving, but it's not the Impossible Whopper's fault.
the Burger King has lost the Mandate of Heaven
Unfortunately, the true longest running guest is in fact, November.
I saw the name Sulla and started hooting.
and to be fair to them Gauis Marius was on a bit of a Biden kick by then end
Pinochet on aggregate. perfect, thank you.
Thank you for reminding me why I train. People want us dead; it's our job to make it hard.
Not to be overly flippant, but this post and display name combination is really amusing.
New Patrick Wyman TF. Lets Goooo!
thought that said “Suella” for a brief, terrifying second
Damn. And just when I thought this type of politics had gone out of Fash(ion)
Keep the Ottoman references coming, boys
Ottomans are my roman empire because they are the true successors of rome