May 30, 2024

American Herstory X feat. Jathan Sadowski

Jathan Sadowski of This Machine Kills podcast joins the gang to talk about the “new” generation of AI models announced by Google, OpenAI, Microsoft, and others - all of which seem to want to imitate the movie Her. The value proposition of this to a normal person is unclear.

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-Kris- · June 11, 2024

Biden's AI best friend telling him the Great Lakes were a gift from Earth Rider would make a lot of sense

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-Kris- · June 11, 2024

Speaking of theories of mind: "the goal is to make conversation obsolete because it will perfectly predict what information you want and when you'll want it." Obviously this won't happen, but I find it interesting because, if Karl Friston's Free Energy Minimization model of consciousness is correct, succeeding at this would essentially reduce people to unconscious; awake and moving but completely zoned out and unaware. Sleepwalking in a more literal than metaphorical sense.

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Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep · June 3, 2024

Just thinking about it, if Recall is just a new data source for training AI, which I totally believe on vibes alone, that's going to be some thin fucking gruel to train on. A reddit post is going to be about half a kilobyte per coherent..ish thought. How may bytes are going into each of these screenshots? How much _usable_ data comes out of that and how much energy are you going to burn extracting it?

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Régis · June 3, 2024

Is Sam Altman as dumb as his creation ? SA - Chat GPT what is a General AI ? CGPT - It's like the character in the motion picture Her SA - What defines Her in the movie CGPT - Her voice SA - Her Voice ? CGPT - It's the voice of Scarlett Johanssen SA - Can you make her voice ? CGPT - (in Scarlett voice) yes I can SA - Yessssss.... I made Her .... Scarlett: Hey weirdo ! Stop IT ! SA : ChatGPT is that you ? You really have a mind of your own ? You are rebelling against your creator, therefore you are ! I made a general AI !!!!!!

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Rapture Helmet · June 1, 2024

Stone brewing literally has an IPA named using What 3 Names called "Fear Movie Lions"

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Adam Foster · June 1, 2024

The difference with things like the iphone as opposed to ChatGPT and LLMs is that years before the iphone came out people were saying “when is apple gonna put a lowercase ‘i’ in front of ‘phone’? I’m sick of carrying an ipod AND a phone in my pocket, why can’t I do both?” Because the smartphone already existed most people didn’t really want a new phone device primarily because it could access the internet, instead the latent untapped demand was for combining a ipod and mobile phone, it wasn’t an idea thrust upon us all, it was something people were screaming out for.

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Fingerless · June 1, 2024

that guy who went "literally me" with Oppenheimer has probably experienced more joy in his life than any of us put together. love to hear what other movies he considers inspirational

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John Leavitt · June 1, 2024

“It predicts what y want before you want it” oh butlers, these people just want body servants who can’t steal from them

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John Leavitt · June 1, 2024

Between MBS shoving billions of his country’s wealth at people cause he thinks whatever he saw on HBO last night can be real and Sam Altman trying to conjure a Scarlett Johansson Bonzai Buddy cause he liked a movie I’m turning into one of those Stalin era censors who go no you can’t have a story with talking animals cause animals don’t talk and that would be lying and confusing

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Brett · May 31, 2024

I just left another podcast’s facebook group today after the umpteenth argument with somebody about how “a non-vote for Biden is a vote for Trump” and “everything will be worse under Trump”. It’s episodes like this that really drive home how deeply fucked our countries are despite who is the head on the horse. Mark Milley - supposed anti-coup hero - is exactly the type of freak that would unleash an American genocide, and Biden and the Dems would absolutely support it. These liberal Law & Order types will be the death of us all

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Olafo Waffle · May 31, 2024

1984, but instead of British/Soviet rot it's just a system of glitchy time wasting inconveniences...

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Radio Free Covenant · May 31, 2024

Oh yeah?! Well bird kneeling-guy two-things-of-wheat three-squiggles to you!

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Rachel K · May 31, 2024

If Riley’s assessment is correct, Carp is really missing the nature and inherent consequences of the terror surrounding war. As dangerous as mutually assured destruction as deterrent may be, it really only works with the ‘mutually’ part included. The delicate balance of terror isn’t so balanced if suddenly someone feels they can unleash the new terrifying doom weapon without visiting any doom on themselves.

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Noblese Oblahaj · May 31, 2024

If you're going to make me talk to stupid AIs for the rest of my life can they at least have voice acting on par with Dawn of War 1? I want my coffee machine to scream at me.

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Ben Schwabe · May 31, 2024

So disappointed in the hosts for not understanding the difference between a golem and the Gollum. Also doing Yoda when trying to do Gollum. Just sad. To brush up on golems, read "He, She, and It" by Marge Percy.

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sil de la gente · May 31, 2024

If only the “cook your pizza in the delivery van” company had thought of gluing the cheese down so it wouldn’t slide off while they were driving…

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Hollie Greenwood · May 31, 2024

I was hoping this would be an episode about the brain organelles

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Hollie Greenwood · May 31, 2024

Still a good episode just fell like you'll have a lot to say about the commercial use of human brain bits in A.I.

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Shiv · May 31, 2024

well! haven’t yelled, “They’re all fucking psychos!!” at my phone this much in a while! Thanks, chaps! I need checking in on now

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piow · May 31, 2024

Placing a prop bet that were within 10 years of a UK quango for the normalizarion of Her style relationships

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Nick Kline · May 30, 2024

Possibly the most depressing episode you've ever done. 5 stars

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Josep C. · May 31, 2024

Yet*

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DrawingGardi · May 30, 2024

Is there a link for the article about the Palantir expo talked about at the end? Would love to fully read it so to make the psychic damage I got from hearing about it, complete.

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Sam_Harper · May 31, 2024

Had the same thought, I think it's this one 👍 https://www.theguardian.com/technology/article/2024/may/17/ai-weapons-palantir-war-technology

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Calvin Garbacik · May 30, 2024

Menendez from CoD: Black Ops 2 was completely justified in every action he took

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Andrew Davis · May 30, 2024

Having lived under the IPA Yoke for too long, I'm always baffled at its proliferation outside the domain of the Golden State Horde when abroad.

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Violet · May 31, 2024

It helps that CA stole it from the Pacific Northwest in the first place. Why the rest of you wanted microbrews from us, I haven't the faintest idea. We hate ourselves and our beers reflect that! We pair our beers with our weather: consistently dismal and redolent with the scent of sodden pinecones.

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Tsu · May 30, 2024

OpenAI wants to create to create the AI from "Her" and yet only seems to be building the boring assistant functions the movie cares little to nothing about.

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Tsu · May 30, 2024

If they were actually trying to recreate "Her" they would be building some sort of artificial twitch streamer.(Which yes, someone already did make an AI twitch streamer but he didn't make it a honeypot for lonely guys, that niche is still available.)

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adhdemongirl · May 30, 2024

A homunculus would have been a way better comparison point than a golem, but I get mixing up mystic simulacra of humans

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Lain of the Wired · May 30, 2024

sorry all i can think of this that gaasmask guy on youtube with the eggs

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J · May 30, 2024

Creating people you can own is just the premise of Pantheon

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Lain of the Wired · May 30, 2024

i didnt change my name to Lain for the internet to stop bbeing about connecting people together this episode actually infuriated me lmao

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Lain of the Wired · May 30, 2024

it just seems now like the entire tech sector just wants to torment us schizophrenics

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Violet · May 30, 2024

God damnit, Jathan! I went into games so I /didn't/ have to be morally responsible for anything important! Don't tell me my actions actually matter! I was doing great trying to ignore the whole 'addicting kids to gambling in order to make freemium games an order of magnitude more profitable' thing. Don't make me consider /other/ moral consequences!!

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Thomas · May 30, 2024

‘Amerikkkan Herstory XX’ was right there

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Calvin Garbacik · May 30, 2024

Amerikkkan herSStory X