End Times Fascism feat. Naomi Klein and Astra Taylor (E389)

Awesome episode, but again it was expected with Naomi and Astra on it :)

Incredible episode. Please unlock this one

This was such a good interview! I listened to the TrueAnon with these girls also. I feel like it’s so rare anymore to get two book-plug interviews that aren’t 80% identical so I almost skipped but I’m glad I didn’t. Very refreshing thoughtful stuff. Idk how to read yet but maybe I’ll start with their new book.

I've listened to a lot of interviews of Naomi and Astra about the book. By far, this is the best one. It was an interactive conversation rather than an interviewer trying to find a different way to ask the same questions everyone else is asking. Excellent episode and the book is fantastic.

It is my personal hope that Jake NEVER gets the analogy.

Can Naomi Klein be a guest every single week 🥹

FYI.... there's multiple episodes of 389 (one is titled Raising Hell) and Naomi's episode isn't appearing as a normal (free) episode

I love Jake, I swear I do but in recent episodes he's been... a bit much

Yo what was the name of the preppers show that was mentioned, please?

I love seeing Naomi on the podcast! I tell everyone who will listen that the shock doctrine is standard and expected reading for anyone living in the United States

Naomi's mentioning of Silo reminds me of that movie Equilibrium with Christian Bale and Sean Bean. That movie is deeply silly (and kind of campy 💚) and the first time I watched it I cried when Sean Bean quoted poetry, when Christian Bale discovered music, when he saved the puppy. I think Jake mentioned this movie before; always makes me smile to hear other people bring up obscure sci-fi films that deserve more viewings). AI can never make camp.

IMO this is one of the best episodes of this whole, great podcast.

Extreme wealth is a mental illness. Capitalism has morphed into Capital Addiction.

An excellent point on how, throughout history, the elite has often been at the forefront of using conspiracy theories to exert or reinforce power. This is not entirely new, history rarely repeats but it does rhyme. Look at how rife anti-semitism was throughout much of Europe from the Medieval period through to the end of WW2, and beyond in certain places. The conspiracy theories surrounding this was utilised to scape goat a minority group, to keep the peasants dissatisfaction firmly on an out group rather than at their liege lords. Obviously I’m simplifying but look at what that wrought by the 1940s, what it enabled. These types of ideas are useful to powerful people. Anyway, great episode, braw stuff!

Y’ALL i was driving around my hood listening and just as Jake said “less of a question more of a complement” I passed a vehicle w black and yellow vintage plates IAMJAKE

This is NOT the Ghost Soldier movie episode I've been requesting Jake! DO BETTER.

Not even Naomi Klein will be spared a Jake Take on NBA 2K god bless

Is anyone gonna tell Jake about password managers?

solastalgia by cattle decapitation. Great song. If you are interested in music that describes the climate disaster, Cattle Decapitation is incredible.

It is our good fortune to have Naomi and Astra on our side.

Y'all were kinda condescending to Jake in a way that kinda crossed the barrier from negging to just being mean 🥺

No comment on Jake and Travis habging out with Hasan Piker at Julian's appartement? EDIT: Apparently I should go back to the start of the show. He was on Episode 21

The guy who works at the head shop I buy ciggies from just told me that people capture and traffic feral pigeons. I don't know if it's true.

Ironically it might be older people that save us from ai dominance. You don’t have to understand the tech to protest against data centres. The concerns cross all political and social ideologies from NIMBYs to eco warriors.

Superb guests, no notes! Apart from the one reminding me to get that book of theirs when possible.

I found out im gay this summer and have been dating a great guy. Worst thing is, being gay is just so normal, i was thinking " damn is this insignificant thing what has been driving these nutters crazy my whole life"

“You can’t feed your kids liberal tears” needs to become a real political slogan.

keep jake off these eps

You guys are out of your depth. You have Naomi Klein on your show and you’re blabbing about video games?

Great episode, but the guests sure like using the word "right" a hell of a lot, right?

I actually do believe we're in the end times of Revelation, and that the tech fascists are bringing it about because of their own belief in it. They just can't believe they are the villains in that story, so they project it out onto the world.

They laugh at gamers while forgetting that their own podcast has roots in gamergate. Maybe they should pay a little more attention to our resident gamers complaints.

I have a theory about the idea of AI being "the last bubble" that I haven't heard elaborated by anyone smart enough to do it justice but it has to do with the most recent bubbles in tech: crypto and VR. All three technologies (AI being the 3rd) require the construction of massive data centers to run huge quantities of RAM. My theory is that this is the primary goal of all three technologies. They are marketing for data centers BECAUSE all of the big Internet Companies aren't really growing anymore. Their profits are shrinking and they can't get VC money anymore because they are incumbents in the tech industry and so they are looking for any way to cut costs. One of their biggest expenses is their backend servers (hence why AWS is the most profitable division of Amazon) and so they are all frantically trying to get more computing power turned on by any means necessary. They don't care if it's bored apes, legless coworkers, or Garfield with big naturals. Their goal is More Computer and the details of how don't matter. I think when (not if) the bubble bursts on AI, we're going to see that companies like Meta, Netflix, Microsoft etc. have been getting creative with their accounting for a long time to cover up the fact that they aren't actually bringing in money like they used to. That's also why everyone is betting so hard on AI. They're desperate, they're willing to try anything, and when it all crashes down, they're going to say it's your fault for sharing a Netflix account or refusing to sign up for YouTube premium. Not exactly a falsifiable theory without getting secret information from one of these companies but there's something of an echo of 2008 around all of this that has me feeling suspicious. Time will tell.

Some say Jake is still at that estate sale trying to scan that QR Code. All alone

My sources are telling me that Jake will complain about video games somewhere in this episode

Jake watch Dan Akroyd Unplugged on UFOs David Sareda AI slop edition. I need a deep dive on whatever lurks beneath this content

Naomi!

Oh yes !

Hell yeah real ep let’s go