De-Extinction Nightmare Part 2: Colossal Lies (E369)

The Endangered Wolf Center in MO houses, breeds, and introduces into the wild real Red Wolves. I live close to them and have gotten to visit a few times. They are awesome and I recommend their YouTube channel for real wolf info.

I'm just checking in to see if this is another episode that sensitive animal people need to avoid.

Finding a fav implicated, is sad indeed

GRR Martin doing everything but finish the books is so on brand.

Jack is truly so great, love their episodes

From Frozen to Ferret was a helluva line

Y'know, if we resurrect the Neanderthals, they won't be human so it's OK if they're all slaves...

The elephant talk reminds me, once again, of the story that Jolly West gave an elephant LSD

The ol' Pokedex approach to conservation, can't be extinct if we got their essence cataloged. Lord knows the celebratory child graping that took place when they realized they could actually make a go at ending any environmental regulation ever. It's a lofty goal but the rewards are basically Mako Energy, cheap and unlimited resources at the cost of the life of the planet. I would place a big prediction market bet that they've already got their Christian angle down, "we've got the genes of one male and female from every species ready to be repopulated at anytime, taking our inspiration from, and you may have heard of him, Noah.". I'd place an even bigger bet that we'll see the opening of the Animal Research and Cloning Department or simply: A.R.C.

Come on, Liv! You can't let Jack dog mog you like that!

This was nuts

Great episode, loved this 2 parter from Jack. You all were on fire this episode, Liv and Julian had me cracking up

If it isn't already abundantly clear that Doug Burgum doesn't actually give a shit about any of the animals discussed, the fact that he mixed up carrier pigeons and Passenger pigeons gives it away. Carrier pigeons are pigeons who are trained to carry letters. Passenger pigeons were a distinct species of pigeon that went extinct around the turn of the 20th century. He doesn't care to know the difference, because he doesn't give a flying fuck about animals extinct or extant.

The ads they produce alone should be sufficient evidence to support the case for recycling everyone who owns, works for, or invests in Colossal Biosciences into bone meal

One of the landmark Endangered Species Act cases, TVA v. Hill, was actually also about a tiny little fish called the Snail Darter, which was 3 inches wide and was blocking construction of a massive diverting dam. I think it's made tiny little fishes into a conservative bugbear.

Ok so I'm a scientist who works with stem cells (NOT for cloning animals or anything even remotely related to this podcast) but I wanted to say the reason republicans aren't up in arms about the use of them is that the stem cells are collected from adults and not fetal tissue. Right now it's super hard to do stem cell research with fetal tissue. The stem cells most people use are from somatic cells- from an adult organism and there are different levels of how invasive it is- anything from a blood test to a biopsy to a surgery plus biopsy. The nonsense being described in this podcast is unfortunate bc some of the technology behind it (CRISPR) is genuinely awesome but what they're doing is unethical for so many reasons

3 inches is actually a perfectly normal and average size for a fish... Stop calling it tiny ! Lol

It’s all starting to make sense. The billionaires obsession with genetics, space travel, and destroying earth. They’re trying to create an Ameglian Major cow to serve at the restaurant at the end of the universe while they watch the end of the world.

I'm thinking hank green's credulous ass might be further proof us millennials need culling.

Yay! Jack rocks! More jack!

This may strike some listeners as harsh but I think everyone involved in this story should die

"The cuck owl and the pussy fish" thanks Julian.

This one was a lot more depressing than I expected it to be. And I wasn’t exactly expecting it to be a fun one in the least. But… fuck, man.

Are the anonymous posts with insider info still on reddit? I'm trying to find them

Naming the dire wolves like Elon Musk's kids

Somewhere between attempts to stop the natural changes always occurring (impossible) and attempting to gain control of the natural world entirely (insane) is the sane path of simply caring enough to ensure we’re doing as little damage as possible.

Really disappointed to hear Beth Shapiro went down that road. A prof at UCSC was the first person to tell me about Colossal about 5 years ago and I was excited until I saw Thiel was a major backer. I only had that suspicion until now, really disappointing.

From freezer to ferret!

What in the David sandborn was that black footed ferret song???

Do the MAHA idiots actually think that folks with autism can’t work?

Christian opposition to stem cell research is typically grounded in their belief that all such cell lines are obtained from aborted human fetuses. It’s an expression of their attitudes towards abortion, not genetic research.

Just back comb a wolf to make it big. Use some gel so it holds. And for God's no touchy. Sell baby sell.

Clone a hobbit, you cowards!

Great replacement theory, brackets fish.

Depressing as always thanks guys

I went to a talk by George Church at the hospital in New York where I used to work. Standing room only. He mostly advocated for the use of CRISPR and other gene editing technology on human beings based on these kinds of experiments he does on animals. I actually asked him a question after the talk about potential unintended consequences of off-target edits from Cas9 manipulation. He seemed totally unconcerned.

That dyerwolf song sounds like one of the tunes from Valley Heat's Cephalopods are People band.

TIL Dolly the sheep was name after Dolly Parton cos the cell came mammary gland and Dolly Parton is sacked 😂 Further research leads to Scientist Ian Wilmut explaining that they "couldn't think of a more impressive pair of glands than Dolly Parton's," sure Ian you pervert

Second ? 🥈

Woohoo!