The Hunt For Liberal QAnon (Premium E297)

Liv Agar (general public can disregard)

Nah. Trump got elected due to racism and misogyny. Material conditions were part of the platform but people did not care enough to not vote from Trump or to get out and vote at all. Seems odd for Julian to discount that

Lot of dumb stuff but none of this stuff is within 700 miles of qanon

Still so shocked that liberals didn’t seem to hear anything Harris said or promoted. These 4am ladies really think she was going to bring peace!? With cop cities and military spending?

"Gia prism is a car" is such a fantastic joke and idc who disagrees

This one really lost me at the end. In the context of what's occurring in this US now, it doesn't seem like a framing of good vs evil was so off base

This episode contains Jake’s most backhanded Ghostbusters reference yet.

4am club : a bout of acid reflux after drinking 2 bottles of wine. 🍷

Trump's tweeted about those "TEDIOUS Smokey the Bear" commercials All connected

Jake rapidly turning into liberal Cookie Monster during “can’t wait to read da book” got me

I live! I post! I live again!

That ending snippet is deeply embarassing for us as a species.

Gotta say, an entire watchdog account that takes the alt accounts to task for plagiarism is pretty peak lib.

Okay, I'm coming in late. I remember when all the alt name of dept from fed government came out (especially angry staffer and alt parks) I followed them, but also took them with a grain of salt that they were "real". I left Twitter and didn't even bother to look for them on Blue Sky. This shit is ridiculous. And the 4 am club is, I personally think, are people just really, really, having a lot of wishful thinking. Also, Charley Kirk has a very p*nchable face.

I think you guys meant the Many Worlds Interpretation not string theory? 🤔🤔 String theory says nothing about alternative timelines

Ok ok ok but like, Elon had a HUGE impact on the election. Maybe not like they rigged the election with his star link, voter machines blah blah. But like, with his fucking money!

I do think Trump’s election really did end democracy ànd ultimately civilization. We lost because most Americans are in fact Nazis who want to murder 1/3 of their neighbors.

Good closer to remind me I still hate Fox a thousand times more than the blue anon folks.

Parks parks parks parks gay penguins parks parks parks check out my four colour i mean color pen parks sugar Michelle Obama parks

"Who cares which planet your fat slug was on"

Does my current Patreon account cover the new content?

I live in SE Britain and no one here has even heard of consonants

You guys crack me up. I laughed so much, thank you! Jack's angry when he heard "I can't wait to read the book" killed me lol.

was Annie unavailable? why even have a UK correspondent if we are just going to do fake accents? 😔

incredibly disappointed to find out after all this time that QAA supports Trump. Orange Man #1 ??? I will NOT disregard.

I'm here for the pain in Julian's voice going capitalist. For clarity, are all new miniseries going only to cursed Media? Liv!

4 am on the East Coast? Was it happening at midnight for Alaskans or did it just happen several times as each timezone it 4am?

“I just scienced your ass so hard, dude, don’t try to come back from this” is my new go-to riposte

Meidas Touched Brains

The String Theory Assumptions are a 6-piece jam band from Maine

Team avocado was pretty close… I think that episode even had lib qanon in the title? I’ve relistened to that one a couple times over the years, that girl was fucking amazing, hepsivah or something?…

Regarding the 4am club, you briefly touched on what I think really explains it, but I think it bears emphasis. By moving the "battleground" into this spiritual/posting-based world, they absolve themselves of all responsibility in the real world. To "Take up arms against a fascist", as you say. They don't even need to do so much as to protest or boycott, let alone *bleep* a *bleep* agent. They can keep happily consuming and paying their taxes and funding the concentration amps, while maintaining an "oh sweetie, you don't actually know what's going on, do you?" attitude to anyone who lifts a finger in actual resistance, or even worse, expects them to do the same. Much like Qanon served to explain why trump1 wasn't doing the things they wanted in the real world, this serves to explain why the dems, "the resistance", etc, are all a bunch of servile worms during trump2.

Great British accents,lads ! 👍 Love the Peep Show reference as well. Can't wait for your impressions of Mark and Jeremy soon ! And of course don't forget Super - Hans !

I have a better theory. The timelines splited but and they will snap back together but it works like TES Dragon Break. So when the merger happens both of the timelines will be still truth. Kamala and Trump will be both actual 47th POTUS and everyone's minds will completely melt.

Ok. But I had a feeling like this when I turned on the tv and saw he was involved in an "assassination" attempt. I said out loud, "He just fucking won.....". Later i got the same feeling when I was driving through a rural-ish area in my town and there were multiple farmland lots with for sale signs from several realty companies in the area, but next to them were trump signs... like as big as and rivht next to commercial real estate company signs... it gave me a terrible, terrible feeling. I was laughed at by tons of people online when I shared this. I don't think people waking up with dread or questioning their reality is necessarily sinister or malicious because we are being gaslit as a people on a daily basis, but it is our responsibility to stay grounded and vigilant in checking ourselves on our thoughts and actions. The woowoos in the crunchy qanon movement are trying to come back to the left.... fuck these fair-weather humans. I didn't like them before q and i fuggin hate them now. No thank you.

I think the “what if we woke each other up” is a way for the “natural intuitives, sensitives, mediums, etc” to explain how they are still special and should still be seen as the source of truth and not all these new ladies who think they have special powers. I think these people are jealous and protecting their “powers”. Yeah you did get an energy message but it was from us, we’re still special. They based their entire identities on having special powers and a movement of normies receiving signs is threatening.

I follow the Alt NPS on Facebook and I can confirm they’ve been posting these weird codes for more than just a couple months now

Lots of Canadians use the English spelling, especially the smarter ones. I suspect Canadians, not Brit's.

Jake's brain is so powerful, to be aware of "Reg" as a stereotypical British sort of name but still somehow pronounce the way Americans say Craig/Kreg, nobody does it better

A customer came in with a Resist Smokie the Bear tee-shirt yesterday. I did compliment her on it.

In the words of the great philosopher Marlo Stansfield- you want things to be one way. But they ain’t

Best government employee forced to become operator though completely unprepared movie would be Three Days of the Condor.

Pretty kooky stuff.

D.I.R.P. Digital Irrelevant Role Play That’s the vibe I get from the parks op sec.

travis dying on the weirdest, smallest hills this episode. "ok so they're saying we phase shifted into a false reality but that isn't technically election denialism."

Can’t rate to weed the book

You guys are so right. And so like other than shooting CEOs of various conglomerates, what Do We do? It’s pathetic that there are people who think this blue anon or whatever is doing anything. But is that better than just knowing no one is doing anything? I have (1) gotten my citizenship to my eu country of origin and (2) just try to be really kind to people until I run away. Pretty sad.

The whole time I was like 'how many of those 4am club folks are perimenopausal and don't know it yet 😬' makes you much more likely to be like 'up at 4, sweating' plus 'worrying about the election.'

jake invoked adam sandler AND will arnett here

If you’re wondering who Julian’s anti-lib cynicism is for - it’s me

"Is there actually a liberal equivalent to QAnon? Travis doesn’t think so." This is Team Avocado erasure and I won't... OK fine, I will in fact stand for it.

By their logic I’m an ex staffer of the govt

These are the white middle aged liberal women who I see in comment sections wailing "Why doesn't somebody DO something?!" As if somebody could just walk into the Oval Office, kick Trump out, bring Kamala in, and everything would magically be okay. They can't wait to read about AltNPS in their book club in 6 years.

To be fair, I definitely thought the icp endorsement would have mobilized more juggalos to go to the polls in the Midwest.

The 4 am Club is interesting to me because I think, in a way, that I understand where they are coming from. As votes were coming in on the night of the election it became obvious (to me) that Trump was going to win. News coverage of the results coming in started looking very similar to the 2016 election and I was pretty distressed about this. I turned off the news, cried really hard, drugged myself, and went to bed knowing that Trump was going to win. When I woke up, I didn't want to go to work or check my email or the news or my texts. I already knew he had won. I didn't want to see right wing assholes gloating or deal with the inevitable "what happened?????" news stories because I knew what it would look like because we had JUST gone through this in 2016. I ended up using some PTO and taking the rest of the week off from work. When I went back to work the following Monday I couldn't function. My brain had completely dissociated due to the cognitive dissonance. I understood that what happened was real but I couldn't understand how so many people had voted for him again. Not logically but emotionally. I understood WHY people voted for him but I struggled to accept that there were so many Americans who just didn't give a shit about the welfare of others and voted for their own self interests. I started crying and couldn't stop. I ended up going on short term disability for about 6 weeks. Since I have a history of trauma and mental illness I was already on multiple meds and seeing a therapist. I had to reconnect my brain to my body because I could not stop dissociating. It was really scary. I'm no longer in this constant dissociative state but I'm sad and angry pretty much all of the time. Trump and many of his cabinet appointees have histories of sexual harassment and assault. With these stories constantly being talked about I felt very triggered. I have a history of sexual abuse that I had never talked about and never wanted to talk about. I eventually did tell my therapist (and we've been working through it) but I felt pressured to do it, not because I was looking for peace or resolution, but because I couldn't get through a day without my brain churning it up. I felt like dealing with it wasn't a choice but another assault. And I know I'm not the only woman who has felt (seemingly) constantly triggered. Hearing that this 4 am Club thing is predominantly (if not exclusively) women makes me wonder about the actual origins of their intuitions. I'm not saying that they all have histories of trauma because, honestly, misogyny is enough. The goal to make all women trad wives who exist merely to be barefoot and pregnant is enough. Dissociation comes from our brains doing whatever it can to protect us from danger. Once I learned that it was something that I did, I was able to recognize when it was happening. My post election episode was so difficult because I knew it was happening but I couldn't pull myself out of it. It was like I was watching myself from outside of my body for weeks. It was surreal and weird as fuck. And again, I'm not saying that this is what happened to 4 am Club people but if it was, I wouldn't be surprised. Sorry this is so long. I was just thinking through it as I was listening...

As a Brit I very much enjoy it when you guys do shit accents, lots of fun.

Btw, the new york times hasn't been a reputable news source since the genocide began. They are building a concentration camp....

jake and Julian don’t know but on bluesky they’re called skeets

Bluesky is the home of "progressive except for palestine" libs

I'm having fun imagining like, the Alpha Legion, but they're all park rangers. An immense man walks up, takes off his hat and says, "I am a park ranger, and this is a lie."

I don't think String Theory Assumptions sounds like a band name, it does sound like an ALBUM name however. But it's like one of the albums that came out in that awkward period around 2015 when they were trying to rebrand? It was okay, I didn't hate it. But most people tend to kinda forget about it and it's not really played at their concerts anymore.

Travis is like the lib whisperer, patting their manes and speaking softly to them every time Julian startles them

The alts did have a podcast the summer of 2020 I think. It was called alts after dark.

"This is ResRanger 0216 Sequoia! Broadcast to all channels! CODE GREEN. REPEAT CODE GREEN. THE TREES ALL APPEAR TO BE GREEN. END COM."

First name Smokey, last name Bear. No "the"

To answer Jake's question, I think there's a Seagal movie where he's a park ranger. There's definitely one where he's an EPA "agent" in a national park.

I really wish some people would get way into fiction media fandom instead of/before getting way into politics. That thing about having to let go of all the content you consumed that convinced and reassured you that your desired outcome was guaranteed? Every Destiel fan went through that. Every obsessed fan of anything knows what it's like to hear a bunch of extremely convincing theories and then find out that none of them were correct. There are so many people in the world who are just totally unprepared for that experience.

Wait, was QAnon Anonymous *not* about mocking Q followers about how they are morons?! I feel like that was I big reason that I enjoyed the podcast back in the day

Those reactions to an election disappointment are pretty much every election in Britain, the crushing despair is just another Tuesday for us. But don't worry, like a first drag of a cigarette can bring on the dizziness, nausea and coughing fits - the paralysing, crushing despair of a shitty election slowly dissolving your human rights/privileges away does eventually get easier to endure: the disassociation fades into a stocked cupboard full of high percentage bottles/jars of coping mechanisms while the humour grows darker and drier till you can't tell the difference between a joke and a cry for help. And hey, with enough time it'll be like an old compulsively lying friend you couldn't imagine living without, despite all attempts to abandon them at each busy train station!

Honestly thought the English accents were pretty good

We gave the rangers syphilis and they went crazy on social media.

They should make posts that look like they’re decoded from a one time pad. That would get their followers going.

Not to excuse these lame liberals, but I think there is a clear psychological link between seeing a government elected that will decide over your bodily autonomy and having WEIRD body sensations

Liv agar

We of the 無ESCHATON🎭UltraViolet𒄈 Post-Causality Consensus are commandeering this baryonic heterotroph to tell the "4AM Club" that we did indeed subtly influence the trajectory of your streams of consciousness through your braneworld's combinatorial Borgesian state-space so that these instantiations of you experienced specific contingencies of electoral outcomes, and you caught us, good for you! You're so clever and observant! Is that what you wanted to hear? Because there is nothing you can actually do about it except whatever you would've done anyway had the same happened and we done nothing. We will now relinquish control of this organism.ostbusters reference again lmao it took me a sec too i was like "flight suits" whaaaaat they don't wear flight suits they wear jumpsuits cuz they're like exterminators but for ghosts

Joshua Tree hat mention 🥳

May I offer that all of this vibe shifting narratives, etc., is just the self-expression of a select element of American hypernornalization. Everyone knows something is just wrong with America, and most Americans, because of a lack of education, wide reading, and global experiences, all go to conspiracy theories first. What socio-economic strata they are defines who they blame and in what form. But at its heart, it’s all just an overt dissatisfaction with a government, society, and media that simply hides plain truths that none of it works as it’s supposed to, as advertised, or even as hoped except in rare circumstances. So when things go VERY wrong, it must be because of a conspiracy, not baked-in path dependence.

41 minutes in, I realized I can't wait to read about QAA... 😉

Julien’s “why are we like this?” Had me cackling

I have been dreading this about AltNPS.

Genuinely validating to hear Julian say he's concerned about a lot of the comments and replies to AltNPS. I am FUCKING WORRIED about a lot of these people, especially on Facebook. I have screenshots of people trying to connect the random numbers to angels, using them to predict drone strikes, and yes, of course, saying they can't wait for the eventual book or the Netflix series about all this. There's an earnest, painful feeling of pure hope coming off of a lot of these lonely, hurt people, and AltNPS is milking their vulnerability for all it's worth. I've had a hard time finding details about the LLC behind the merch store, but I want that to be my next project.

Feel like a big part of the reason why there's no centralized BlueAnon like there is for QAnon is that Trump believers needed to create a belief system to cope with him not doing what they expected, whereas Democrat true believers are told that the Democrats can't do anything unless you vote really hard for 8-10 elections. Not as much need for a secret explanation when they're openly saying "we won't do what we run on because we can't".

which park ranger hurt Julian to cause him to have beef with them like that lol

Numbers Don’t Lie

Hey guys! I (ironically) don't have a way to prove it, but I'm the obsessive nerd behind AltWatcher. I genuinely was inspired to start the account when I saw one of AltNPS's Numbers posts and immediately read it in Jake's Q voice. This show has poisoned my brain in the best way.

We need a movie night where you guys watch jefftowne

I'm sorry but I thought the the liberal QAnon folks were the ones posting about how "actually Elon & Trump rigged the election (then again dark money is real)." Some of those sites look eerily similar to #StopTheSteal ones, especially the aesthetic and featuring an elections expert or whatever. To me, I've always found it skeptical since you can't just go from "2020 was not rigged (Biden won ofc) and MAGA is dumb" but then pivot to "2024 WAS rigged." Like to me, just changing the perspective on a dime within a cycle is just hypocritical (as of now, Biden won, Trump won).

Excited about this ep but honestly cannot wait for the next Epstein fall out coverage - Wired with the missing minute metadata, the Bongioni/Bondi fight, etc. "He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. And if you gaze for long into an abyss, the abyss gazes also into you."

But how about this? Liv Agar

Was about to go to bed but now I got a reason to stay up 😎