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June 15, 2025

New Disinformation and Old Diseases feat. Anna Merlan (E328)

Hundreds of people have been arrested in Los Angeles after days of protests, which are in response to aggressive immigration raids ordered by President Trump. When people took to social media to make sense of the events, they were confronted with fake, AI-generated videos of the protests. They also saw real photos that were labelled as out-of-context by AI. Thus breaking new ground in worthless, deceitful slop.

Plus, we speak to Anna Merlan at Mother Jones about her recent reporting on the RFK Jr.-connected “MAHA Institute.” That organization’s head, Leland Lehrman, has pushed extremist ideas for decades, including endorsing the conspiracist fraudulent text "Protocols of the Elders of Zion.” RFK Jr. himself is evidently embracing a genuinely anti-vax agenda in his role as Health Secretary by firing and replacing the Advisory Committee for Immunization Practices (ACIP).

We've seen the future. And the future is an AI chatbot telling you to treat your latest typhus infection with apple cider vinegar.

Thank you for being a QAA subscriber!

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Anna Merlan on Bluesky

https://bsky.app/profile/annamerlan.bsky.social

The Head of a New RFK-Backing Group Promoted 9/11 Conspiracy Theories and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/06/leland-lehrman-make-america-healthy-again-institute-antisemitism-september-11/

Flaming Hydra

https://flaminghydra.com/

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REFERENCES

Bricks from Malaysia and New Jersey misrepresented amid LA unrest

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.49XW2T2

FACT FOCUS: A Craigslist ad is not proof of paid protesters in LA. It was posted as a prank

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-los-angeles-paid-protesters-prank-48792aa47dcc2d8eeb9547d79d530037

Fake videos and conspiracies fuel falsehoods about Los Angeles protests

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fake-videos-conspiracies-falsehoods-los-angeles-protests/

Los Angeles protests: How AI and chatbots are feeding fake news

https://www.france24.com/en/tv-shows/truth-or-fake/20250610-meet-bob-the-ai-generated-national-guard-soldier-sparking-misinformation

AI Chatbots Are Making LA Protest Disinformation Worse

https://www.wired.com/story/grok-chatgpt-ai-los-angeles-protest-disinformation/

Comments (53)

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bobore · June 21, 2025

Ugh, I love y'all, but every time you talk about AI I wish you would just actually learn what it is. "We are getting to the point where AI is so good that people are accusing real photos of being AI." This has been true for almost two years. We are getting to the point where AI is so good that people will be accusing real VIDEOS of being AI

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Virgil918 · June 20, 2025

Please leave AO3 alone, Snake!

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Misselenaus · June 18, 2025

Unrelated, I was wondering if everyone had gone out drinking before recording this. Then realized I had accidentally set it to . 75x speed. Whoops. Great episode

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Samantha · June 17, 2025

The AI is like…I’m starting to wonder if like, half of people have kind of thought that movies were real this entire time. Like they would say they know they’re not real but like in their brains they’re subconsciously kind of confused about it, if that makes sense. And the AI is just like, we can’t handle it. Like as a species it’s blowing our minds. Like uncovering the limits of human intellectual capacity maybe? Idk if I think about what this means for the human race for too long I start to freak out haha

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Phasian's Workshop · July 16, 2025

30, 35 years ago my mom used to tell me over and over that TV wasn't real and I was always very confused by it. Now I'm less confused. :(

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Glenn Wiens · June 17, 2025

Ya but the Elders of Zion had to be better than the Young Whippersnappers of Zion, right? Right?

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Jeremy · June 17, 2025

I really appreciate Julian's deadpan honesty about our situation, and it's time people stop trying to dumb it down with nostalgia/self medication. Democracy comes by the barrel of a gun.

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Shifty Comfort · June 16, 2025

Slipping that goonies reference in there at the end

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Seb · June 16, 2025

The energy between Jake and Julian is so good lately lol

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jengatoads · June 16, 2025

man i hate this stupid evil country

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cherry ghostbuster · June 16, 2025

the idea of all health problems being the result of personal choice is so strongly just an echo of evangelicalism’s view on sin and prosperity gospel. be good and good things will happen. do bad and bad things will happen. the logic even a child knows better than.

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Do Golems Dream of Ceramic Sheep · June 16, 2025

Weirdly l always kind of thought my pandemic-safety precautions as a sort of modified miasma theory. (basically the air from inside other people's lungs was the miasma, avoid buildup of other people's lung gas). But that was applying a personally useful metaphor, not designing policy around an idea of contagion that was deprecated in the... 19th century?

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India · June 16, 2025

Annie Kelly

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turkeysWant2live · June 16, 2025

WHO advice is STILL to get vaccinated, wear a mask and increase ventilation to avoid lingering health issues from Covid infection. Health issues such as... "How does Covid-19 affect your heart? We explain what Covid-19 does to your heart and circulatory system and how it can lead to conditions such as blood clots, heart damage, palpitations and high heart rate." https://www.bhf.org.uk/informationsupport/heart-matters-magazine/news/coronavirus-and-your-health/what-does-coronavirus-do-to-your-body

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turkeysWant2live · June 16, 2025

We are in a Covid wave 👋🏼

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Laura · June 16, 2025

Regarding thinking something real is actually AI, one little morsel of pleasure I used to get each morning when I log in to work was seeing whatever photograph was being served up to me that day. It wasn't much, but I liked it. Then there was a day that I thought the picture looked fake. I looked around online, and it appears that Windows sometimes use AI images , so now instead of a moment of pleasure in looking at an interesting spot on our beautiful little planet, I get a moment of wondering if what I'm looking at is even real. I hate it.

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TravisPewPewPew · June 16, 2025

The more I hear about the people that make up MAHA the more I’m wondering if drug testing does not exist for them.

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Cuerpo · June 16, 2025

Look, as long as the cocaine they’re using is organically produced and fair trade, it’s fine.

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Max · June 16, 2025

Going back to the elders of Zion really is an old school move, even modern neo-nazis just treat as a cute antique.

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Max · June 16, 2025

I hope once Trump loses all motion, he goes back to his election season stunts of working various jobs for photoshoots. Then we might see him actually laying some bricks down.

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Last Years Man · June 16, 2025

After eight years, I think Julian's greatest accomplishment is getting Travis to say "lib."

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Toasty Waffles · June 16, 2025

It's the small victories that matter

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Last Years Man · June 16, 2025

The consequences of turning to the poison for the cure, as Travis put it, are even more far reaching. There are a ton of freelance writers, translators and other creatives on the Internet who have lost clients because their texts were put through an "AI detector" and labeled AI despite being 100% original. This iteration of the timeline is going to SUCK hard.

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misterinterrupt · June 16, 2025

people will continue to not know what they might do all the way up until they are in the oven

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Tom Yasko · June 16, 2025

100% a QAA Classic.... (courtesy of your "Be Smarter Than A Virus®" supporter from Hawai'i...

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Shiv · June 16, 2025

Was this recorded before the NYT published RFKj miasma thinking as if it were a legitimate perspective 😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

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Shiv · June 16, 2025

you Cannot make me listen to RFK TALK

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Jackson · June 15, 2025

I don't really get what Julian was getting at about how liberals shouldn't have been calling things disinformation. Clearly the idea being subverted just to dismiss anything you dislike on both sides is downstream of that but like, Trump did and does create and spread disinformation constantly. Is the idea that should have just been ignored so that the right wing wouldn't be calling things misinformation now? I think they would be calling shit fake either way, I just don't understand what the smugness about that whole point was

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lauren · June 16, 2025

The nihilistic smugness is such a drag.

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Erin Berg · June 15, 2025

Y’all have to call out the fascism in Trumps language that’s leading towards genocide. Fascism uses the language of an “ invasion” to call for the “internal cleansing” by ICE.

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Anderson Cooper's 360 inch shlong · June 15, 2025

Jake, no one outside of the north burbs knows what Hackneys is

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wollymight · June 15, 2025

jake

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Steelyphil · June 15, 2025

Marriage to a Canadian does not equate to Canadian citizenship! Sorry 😞

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ploob · June 15, 2025

Facts don't care wether you're hard or not JULIAN!

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Lars · June 15, 2025

A Post-Irony & Post-Truth society is a recipe for a grand & expedient collapse.

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Ruth Kiszka · June 15, 2025

Are you guys ever going to cover trumps disinformation campaign against Iran? Trump used disinformation to attack Iran. You should make an episode about that

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Jon · June 15, 2025

Woke up to a new episode?? Happy Father's Day to me baby

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Ruth Kiszka · June 15, 2025

I cant wait for ww3. How many Americans are going to die for israel?

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Ant koz · June 15, 2025

I’ll go to Jules…

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Cate Kneale · June 15, 2025

@grok is it true that the master's tools will never dismantle the master's house?

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LizB12 · June 15, 2025

I once read a comment that said maybe if we could dose everyone in the world with some ✨shrooms✨ and have juuuust the right Ted talk live streamed at the same time, we could save the world…and I day dream about that everyday. 🤣🥲

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Emma · June 15, 2025

Hackney’s mentioned!! Love when North Shore Chicago Jake comes out

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Dixon Rivera · June 15, 2025

For the record: I grew up in South Carolina. Yes, that one; part of the collective land that would absolutely lose their shit when a person of color would drink out of a whites only water fountain, not too long ago. I read the elder protocols. I devoured Behold a pale horse. I raised an eyebrow and whispered “What if it is true?”, time and time again, up to birth of Qanon. Then I discovered this podcast. I started out listening to it in order to fact check or debunk it. Everything that was presented, checked out each and every time. Slowly, my brain caught on and I realized that I was being fooled and lied to all those years ago. Ladies and gentlemen of the podcast , I cannot thank you enough for the quality of said podcast. I eagerly await each and every week for a new episode, for a new piece of information that exposes the lies that seemingly pop up like a Hydra. Keep fighting the good fight.

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Cory Waring · June 15, 2025

“Militant Democrats” huh? My beer sprayed out my nose on that one.

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ysolla · June 15, 2025

Also, unwed Australian here... 💒👰😉

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Shiv · June 15, 2025

say more (i would like to live)

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ysolla · June 15, 2025

Miasma is what they thought caused the plague... RFK Jr is LITERALLY taking the American health system back to the DARK AGES!!! You guys are fucked...

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turkeysWant2live · June 15, 2025

Biden declared the pandemic 'over' also against WHO advice.

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Louis Wilkins · June 15, 2025

“Doing drugs with community members and it was healthy and good” Damn straight man.

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MCL · June 15, 2025

We’re at GOOFCON 0, no minutes till midnight goofy balls

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Chapo Bath House · June 15, 2025

Third and gay

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Queen Motoko · June 15, 2025

Liv Merlan

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Matt S · June 15, 2025

Love u guys