The State of R/Conspiracy (E324)
A crossroads. A marketplace of ideas. A subreddit evolving in the age of Trump’s second term. We dive into R/Conspiracy to see where our head is at.
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Comments (106)
Missed the chance to say pie-curious over pizza curious.
There doesn't need to be an alien spacecraft under Pine Gap; that place is already a CIA listening post on Australian soi. The Youtuber BoyBoy has a video on it.
Asking if phone mics could detect water running is a totally fair question. Not only have we had that technology for many years now (Google shipped offline song identification for Pixel phones in 2017), but hooooo buddy does it get worse. We can reconstruct the sound in a room by filming and processing objects in the room, like plastic bags. I had to sit down when I learned all this. Benn Jordan has a great video on it. Have fun never sleeping again: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEC6PM97IRI ("7 Concerning Levels Of Acoustic Spying Techniques")
Liv Agar
One of the most valuable lessons you can learn from being involved with a fandom for a complicated piece of fiction--whether it's a book series, a TV series, or a video game--is this: A well-thought-out theory that make perfect sense, has abundant evidence, and convinces thousands of people, can still be incorrect.
I've now been ensnared by the idea of anti-christ with a tiger mom
As a stickler, thank you, Travis, for pointing out the correct past tense of “hang” (when talking about the fatal way of hanging). I care a lot more about people learning proper English than about whatever happened to Epstein. And I’m not even a native English-speaker. Speaking of: you mentioned a map showing “how the territory is divided” between the various nefarious powers and hoped I might hear who’s in charge in my neck of the woods. But of course, it’s just a map of the US… because of course. Does that make the rest of the world unclaimed or just under the thumb of Mecha-Stalin (Catholic)?
Julian hit the nail on the head towards the end. I think there’s a massive chunk of the population that are disillusioned with politics and have completely checked out.
Agreed. When you are a serf in the new feudalism, you find what fun you can, pretend to kiss the earl’s ass, pray for paradise after death. (As an atheist old woman, I still mock the gentry, but I depend on the kindness of tax-paying, community-minded strangers. No crone is an island.)
antichrist fantasy draft
Jake’s rant about the in-game currency not being available for purchase in exactly the specific amount that he needed 😭😭😭
Thought Jake said “Beyoncé of Satan fame”
Probably a subreddit already.
iPhones can detect and notify you of running water for sure. It’s a feature in the Accessibility settings, along with baby crying, cat meowing, other stuff. Think it’s meant to help people with hearing difficulties and it’s been in there for a long time now. Don’t know if that means apps are tapping into that capability for ads or whatever. Probably not. Just saying the tech is there.
So disappointed to hear that there are forbidden versions of every episode where Jake rambles about Fortnite for like 20 extra minutes. We demand the Jake cuts!!!!
The merlin stuff has to be a joke right?
Holy shit we NEED that image of Jeffrey Epstein as Andrew Jackson
I think the last poster perfectly framed Ragnarok
Really good ep, but I’m disappointed it’s going to be a secret post episode that only lives within the Patreon app
This pod’s ability to find some of the worst music ever made continues to impress me. Just absolute dog shit in the outros. Incredible.
That wet hands YouTube ads one is a thought I've had so many times.
Are the lads suggesting that right wing bot farms inflating topics and replies they want near people's eyes is made up? Astroturfing is an ancient phenomenon at this point and it remains prevalent on wide-reaching subreddits like r/conspiracy.
Is this outro AI?
100%
You fuckers knew my hands were wet when that auto-cue started playing
Hey just a heads up that this one is not showing in the RSS feed. I took all of the troubleshooting steps, even uninstalling and reinstalling my app, and it still won't show up. This podcast as well as another I subscribe to seem to be missing the latest premium episodes from this weekend. I even installed and tried another podcast app, and they still don't load.
Yep seeing the same on my end
You have piqued my interest with the ambiguously conspiratorial views on the Las Vegas shooting. One of the schizo posts my friends always reference are about him not being able to bring up 3k rounds of ammunition. My experience -- so totally not scientific -- is that people over estimate how big of a package 1000 rounds of ammunition is...
Trueanon had a pretty great episode breaking down all the weird stuff around the Vegas shooting
To others noting that this isn't showing up on the feed - I think it's a Patreon issue broadly: I have another podcast from Patreon that also has an un-updated feed. Hopefully it gets fixed soon :)
Bill Hicks' bit about FBI/JFK video at 22mins
Still not on Apple Podcasts
Good to hear Harold Holt getting a shout out but what’s the theory? You don’t get killed for giving the Americans everything they want.
Would love to have this ep available on the RSS feed
I find the Luigi Mangione section to be a bit naive. "What like the cops would just frame some random person i steady of continuing to be embarrased" Absolutely yes! The NYPD used to have nightly arrest quotas they would meet by snatching random people off the street. Otherwise good ep lol I rlly love the idea that Epstein is Andrew Jackson lmao
I agree they would frame someone, but I think it's not as relevant in a story with so much of a high profile. I think they snatch people and charge/arrest them with things when they know they can get away with it due to a lack of scrutiny, I don't think they'd be able to get away with it in a case with so much attention. interested in your thoughts if you disagree ofc!
Jake why are you did you steal a bill hicks joke
As a long-time member of the Order of the Eastern Star, I always have to laugh when the organization is brought up in conspiratorial circles. If they only knew.
For some reason this isn't showing up in the RSS feed.
Jake “Scared to Shit” Rockatansky
Eyy 22mins in, Jake references maybe my favorite bill hicks bit, about the Kennedy assassination
The deep state shake down meeting hitting technical difficulties is such a good bit
chaos magick jake
Jake being an FF14 player is somehow the least shocking revelation of all time
I don’t understand why Jake wouldn’t pay them with a 10 and a 5. When someone asks you 15$ you wouldn’t withdraw an extra 5 and ask them for change if a 10$+5$ were available, would you?
I guess the point was two separate transactions are a slightly larger inconvenience, like that you can't add the $10 and $5 Crysta conversion units to a shopping cart and check them both out, you have to do the full process twice. (I don't claim to know if this is actually the case with Crysta, but that's what I took Jake's read on the situation to be). In the ATM analogue, assuming similar conditions, I wouldn't just go ahead and decide to pick 20 on my own but I would probably ask "do you happen to have a 5 on you so that I can make a single withdrawal and exchange a 20?" to check if the more convenient option was workable. I probably wouldn't pick the 20 in the situation Jake describes though, but that's 100% because I have a stick up my ass about dark pattern design so my stubbornness to work against it kicks in, lol.
You should do one on /x once.
You guys have cringe “Twitter Mueller she Wrote libs” on the brain too much. The average r / conspiracy user thinks Obama and Bush are two birds of a feather. They aren’t libs. Lib posting about Clinton would get you banned, not upvoted. The anti-Trump users are just anti-establishment and would be against whoever the president is, even if it’s Ron Paul or St. Bernard.
Yeah I think it's easy after paying attention to politics enough to get into your mind like 4-5 archetype groups based on that generally being true for media personalities, but like randoms posting on r/conspiracy are probably a lot more app over the place
Call me a libshart, but it’s hard to have any genuine sympathy for these dipshits who voted for that parasite and the other cockroaches who scuttle behind him. He’s been telling people who he is as a person for literal decades. It’s not like they pulled the rug under his voters out of nowhere, it was inevitable for anyone with a quarter of their brain still intact. Like his white supremacist supporters have said in the past, “The cruelty is the point”. So, they get to join in the fun. They can eat shit and redacted for all I care. Just because you’re part of a suicide cult doesn’t mean you get to force us to drink the cyanide laced kool-aid and think we’re enjoying the ride.
I'm the guy who always criticizes the gang's pejorative use of schizophrenia. Just wanted to share an interesting theory about why schizophrenia rates have stayed stable despite evolutionary pressures: cliffs-edge genetic benefits in our advanced brains. Schizophrenia genes do not exist in Neanderthals or other homo species, and the changes in our brains lead to great genetic benefit except for a small, stable fraction of people where their combination leads to disorganized mental processes. Perhaps an over-connectivity and down-regulation of neuronal pruning - which we also see in ADHD and autism. For the majority of people, our advanced brains lead to great survival chances, for the rest of us, we get to enjoy genetic predisposition to mental health struggles. All that being said, the lives of the neurodivergent and people who struggle with mental health would be greatly improved by smashing capitalism. Those marginalized by ableism could be and should be better supported. Universal Basic Needs Guarantee now!
I think the History Channel is to blame for a lot of our cultural milieu due to non-stop speculative Nazi content and normalizing conspiracism with Ancient Aliens. I always used to joke that the "H" logo in the corner didn't stand for history. Certainly seems like a early influence in mainstream culture that undermined history as an a academic discipline.
In case you are freaking out about plastic in your brain, Science Vs. did a great breakdown that showed the technique used to measure plastic in the brain involves burning the samples and the signals they were detecting would also be the result of fat (which there is a ton of in the brain). Seems like it's the same technique for all the "organs full of plastic," so we can all chill. Further investigation is required.
oh yeah well how come there's a six-pack holder choking out my cerebellum huh?!?!
I've thought since Luigi was captured that he's a comrade with an iron clad alibi who's a red herring to allow the real perpetrator to get away.
Just want to say that I pressed play on this episode minutes after it was posted, and listened to the entire thing in the Patreon app without issue. The rest of you are smoking something.
No one said the episode isn't playing on Patreon. The episode hasn't been uploaded to the RSS feed, and we use the RSS feed to listen to the show in our preferred podcast apps. That's why we're complaining.
Don't know who that song at the end was by but that was a a bop
Would not have been as kind as that woman when responding to the *men* telling her she should have kids to feel better, though being in a vulnerable state is understandable to prefer not aggravating a load of weirdos online any more than they probably are. - - - Digressing, Am still gonna accuse Elon of being on drugs, lol - by any standard ain't no neoliberal (or "liberal" by the American parlance), have had more than the average experience around chemical experimentation, and every time I see that guy he looks/behaves like every nasty comedown rolled into one pale sweaty stammering clammy regret (inconsistently so, implying not just personality trait), also even if I'm wrong it's a harmless bit of hearsay and conjecture, loads of wealthy privileged people get away with being on drugs for many reasons, while accusing everyone below them of being useless addicts, with zero repercussions, so fuck them, fuck all of them, lazy useless drug addicts lol - Tbh it's more annoying from ppl who don't know anything about drugs saying he, and anyone adjacent, must be on ketamine just cos he said it once...come on don't let the most dishonest twat on earth smear ket that easily, it has it's downsides but nowhere near anything you can pin on Elon's cuntocracy!
Love you all.
Jake encourages us to subscribe for a “little while”. This is demonstrably impossible. The show is quite addictive. Soon to be made illegal.
It was really killing me Jake's big premium pitch was just "subscribe for a little while" lmao. What a salesman
Free the rants!
I really liked this ‘taking the temperature’ thing, you should do it with more platforms or reddits (assuming it doesn’t make you want to become a statistic)
Please add this to the Premium RSS feed kthnxbai
Seconding, I can only get this on Patreon
Jake, you're not fooling me. That "sit them down and show them another angle" thing is a Bill Hicks bit.
Glad someone else caught that lol
I don't think this is out on the premium feed. It shows up in the regular one but not there
Like, it's not that cops haven't railroaded innocent people to close a high profile case. But usually the accused is more politically convenient/the prosecution doesn't present such a sympathetic narrative/the whole planet doesn't try to bang them etc
Yeah if it was idiot NYPD cops trying to pin it on somebody he wouldn't be such a good fit, and if it were a larger conspiracy he wouldn't be one who was sympathetic, had a coherent ideology or was handsome, and he's all three. It just seems to me like wishcasting for him to not really be the guy
now THIS is classic qanon anonymous
Up dooted this one!
Simple premise but a good episode Julian. It does help to occasionally lick one’s finger and take the temperature on the general conspiracy space. The analysis reminds of me of the pre-Obama era in how a general suspicion of ‘the establishment’ created a large common ground between left and right wing conspiracists. On a final note the separation between r/ Conspiracies and r/ UFO is really interesting. I’ve become so used to ALL the fringe ideas being smooshed together it’s positively strange to see the different subcultures actually separate themselves.
I often forget I subbed to r/ ufo and when i pop in (probably haven’t since the NJ dronesplosion) it seems to be mostly very straightforward sighting reports
Ok I love you guys so much and I think in general you are almost always on point in your skewering of pilled materials… I am thankful of your skeptical/grounded/humorous takes on most conspiracy stuff but I have to say… it sounds like you’ve (Travis especially lol) bought into the official story of 9/11 a bit too much. Would love to see you do an actual deep dive into 9/11 and especially try to give a reasonable explanation for 7 WTC at a minimum cause it’s fucking bizarre to this day. I’d say that, the dozens of other super strange aspects of the story and the information we know about Operation Northwoods and what our gov was willing to do (although was rejected by Kennedy) in Cuba all the way back in 1962… how is it so easy to dismiss that some major fuckery could have been a foot in this insane event that basically changed our country forever, gave the neocons and the national security state everything it could have hoped for and more… all just chaos and coincidence?!? Really? Jake and Julian I’m begging you hahahhahaha I can feel like you both may have your doubts too 😅 just a lilllllll pill. just lilllllll one.
US intelligence services fucked up by failing to join the available dots. Al Qaeda fucked up by failing to realise they were inadvertently playing into the neocons hands. The neocons fucked up by failing to realise that ‘nation building’ is an enormous job. Big things can and do happen for anticlimactic reasons and people and institutions have been overestimating themselves since before history began.
Is there a QAA Free Company on FFXIV?
Thank you, Travis, for acknowledging the "it's 'hanged,' not 'hung'" pedants. It's among my favorite English idiosyncrasies ❤️
I'll be looking forward to this one, did you also check out r/conspiracy_commons?
What a great episode. Julian Feeld!!!! I am now possibly pocket and eyebrow pilled and definitely running water pilled. I do wonder if the shift in topical focus in r/conspiracy is partly due to a lot of the people who were losing their minds on the peak Q days not being on Reddit any more.
Liv agar
Jake, bro, no one on (my corner of) Bsky thinks they’re winning
Not even (pregnant pause) Travis View
I too am scared to shit
Sorry ass libs said Kentukians got what they deserved during the floods cos “that’s what you get for voting for Mitch McConnell”!
Jake defending Elon clearly high as fuck is crazy
Also Elon has like actual numerous reports about his drug use and has himself admitted to using ket. Don Jr. you can make more of an argument for because I don't think there's actually much besides his general appearance but like with Elon we DO in fact know lol
~22:00 cmon Jake you gotta cite Bill Hicks as a source for that joke lol
Was about to say, “for shame! For shame Mr Rockatansky! Plagiarism is beneath you, surely? For shame!”
Yeah, I'm not able to get this in my podcatcher, if I didn't have notifications up from patreon I'd have missed this episode
I personally am a lower class earner and enjoy watching petit bourgeois shitheels losing everything
I keep thinking y'all are saying "our conspiracy"
Living, laughing, living our conspiracies
Some of us were made to thrive in a petty and spiteful era
Found the mobile user
FYI, Patreon now requires creators to manually select an audio post be posted to the RSS feed. This episode didn’t show up in my podcast app.
Mine neither
Werewolf? There-wolf!
Travis View
Liv Agar?
I am not a creature of the internet, but I do like those who sit in the digital Savana to report on its bizarre nature.
there doesn't appear to be an audio file attached to this episode?
how dare you
Hey Jake, what size shoe you wear, I got a pair of CuhShoeLuhs here with your name on em
Gimme that sweet sweet content
