Reform UK, Nigel Farage, and Elon Musk (E311)

also as far as labour are concerned they've went hard on trans people, and as we've seen in the last month, attacks on disabled people that the 2010 tory libdem coalition government would've at least paused before enacting

This just feels relevant to leave here https://open.spotify.com/track/3RYlth37YKLDR6BbrvaAeg?si=GIVNxeRRQKS0daHT1c9PtQ

Ayyy we love david farrier!

Omg oldtimehawkey reference I love this show

Someone from the aliens universe comment - hahaha, so true

Annie Kelly isn’t a policy wonk? This is a sad day for the Knowledge Fighters everywhere

Jake talking about OldTimeHawkey, the "Hello Buddy" guy who lives in the upper peninsula of Michigan (basically Canada) is peak Midwest culture.

Annie makes every episode better.

Another plane down!

Annie Kelly

Evergreen. https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/society/we-need-to-look-after-our-own-first-say-people-who-would-never-help-anyone-20150907101741

Will the guys ever have Ken fucking Klippenstein on to discuss how he’s become a deranged, “heterodox” shitstain pandering to contrarian morons?

Hell yeah Jake is an Old Time Hawkey fan!

We have the apple cart saying in the US!

Please link or share the profile of the YouTuber in the woods for 90s kids!!!🙏🏽

Julien said Make Audio Great Again

Jakey, "upset the apple cart" is definitely part of our cultural lexicon, too. Not real common, kind of old fashioned and like all those horse phrases, I also know nothing of apple carts. They wish they were turning over tables in the temple, but no, nothing so righteous as that.

Thank you for this episode. It was a useful summary of the gap between Farage and Robinson. I live in a reform targeted area and I will be trying to organise with people from my union and other trades council unions against reform.

Started subscribing in 2019 and this episode may have shined on the darkest reality this show has lit up yet… that British people, can have podcasts… now that I’m aware, if you told me there were one hundred million British pods by far right psychopaths who were molested at boarding school and are now continuing the cycle of British greatness… I would take the over for sure…

I am pretty fucking sure that 'reasonable' in this UN charter about saving drowning people means 'when it does not put more poeple in danger' and it does not mean 'those who are drowning are white*' *may or may not apply to white Slavs and Baltics

Did anyone else notice Jake’s Elon voice almost veering into a weird Trump voice? Seems appropriate but also terrifying.

How do I broadcast this to the entire country, how do I force them to fucking listen, to see what is happening right in front of them. Maddening rock, this rock of mine.

Last thing, sorry for being annoying, am super anxious, but have people forgotten or just didn't know that Thatcher openly claimed her proudest achievement was New Labour and Tony Blair? It sounds like nobody talks about it ever and continue to be surprised at the party's lack of leftism ---+---- 'In 2002, twelve years after Margaret Thatcher left office, she was asked at a dinner what was her greatest achievement. Thatcher replied: “Tony Blair and New Labour. We forced our opponents to change their minds.” ' ----+----- Link: https://economicsociology.org/2018/03/19/thatcherisms-greatest-achievement/ Am still a cold heartless calculating harm-reduction pragmatist who has to try voting for most probable party of least harm, apathy is how we got here in the end after all...but understanding is key to mobilising movements, effective critique, public political education and formulating tactics that produce actual results.

That audio of Farage talking about Elon using new tech has resurfaced a worrying clip I saw recently that seems to have flown completely under the radar - I urge you, anyone, including the podcast hosts, to watch the last bit of the 'Some More News' episode on Musk titled 'Musk Thinks You're a Fucking Idiot' where him, his mentally forsaken child and Tucker Carlson are talking bout election tactics, and what his kid keeps saying aloud. -+- And please don't take it as dem apologism: their behaviour, moral failure and depressing conservative rhetoric remains indefensible to this day, this isn't about them, and Musk's "shhh naughty mystery" may not have made much difference to the outcome, not that there's any laws to protect democracy from this shit anyway. -+- But there seems to be weird implications that musk has been up to something behind what we currently are aware of, and it ties a little too uncomfortably to Farage's coy comments here. And I am now increasingly concerned neither our hosts nor our press and politicians are vigilant - or the latter 2 informed enough to defend against possible future tactics used in our elections regardless of what the other parties do. Plus, in regards to that leaked pay-cheque number, if I was a sneaky far right politician and billionaire wanting to get that 100 million funding, I wouldn't say anything about it till after the election to make sure I wouldn't get blocked or banned or even shamed away from running for office. So of course they won't be admitting or making any transactions till as close to the actual campaign run-up as they can. (Also just cos he's dumb it doesn't mean we should underestimate his lifelong habit of outsourcing non-primal thought to his own lackeys'/marks' brains like with all his Tesla products and rockets: am honestly surprised to hear you forget this dynamic tbh)

"Hey buddy" guy is the goat. Jake is correct.

Yaxley Lennon is a little wankstain, no one would bother killing him, not worth the effort of wiping dogshite off your shoes.

I find the melted state of UK politics oddly comforting. Misery loves company, I guess.

We need a Jon fetterman episode asap. I'd love to explore his descent into madness. Anyone who gets hospitalized for mental illness as a US senator shouldn't be in power

The indigenous people of south africa messed up. They should have seized everything these boer monstrosities had in their pockets. I want a v ideo of Lil baby musk sobbing as his stolen emerald mine is seized

So nice to have Annie back on the podcast ! Yay!

Julien Makes The Audio Run On Time!

Just to share Canada's Tommy Robinson experience. He visited here and a conservative provincial MP posted a photo of her meeting with him, leading to her being kicked out of her party and likely ending her career. She said she thought he had ideas it was important to listen to. He said that actually he was just trying to get a date. She's since gone harder than before on being all in on the restoration of the Pahlavi dynasty in Iran.

Liv agar

One of the their lower level shit MPs is a DJ Assault fan so that's cool?

The Neighbours to Fascism pipeline never fails...

Loved the accent work from Jake on this episode.

I’m so sorry I started cackling immediately upon hearing Jake’s Musk, which is surely giving him psychic damage

In 2020 the world was infected by Covid, in 2025, we’re in the Musk pandemic.

We are familiar with upsetting the applecart in Canada. Where's Liv?

annie 💚

Hahaha yeah sure...it's all BS and malarkey. God, enough to make me weep.

OI ANNIE HELLO

Jake, that is my guy @oldtimehawkey I think? He isnt Canadian he is from da Yoop

Annie remains a treasure. Good to know America isn't uniquely cooked?

Uh oh, nononono I was taking a break from UK politics by hiding amongst US politics! You cannae do this! It was starting to feel so warm and comfy and now it's cold, so cold and fidgety and rusty. The heroin's all gone too! Have you, uh....you haven't got a pinch of fentanyl by any chance have you?

Love you for the TPB reference Jake. I see you out here, keep doing you

Please British mommy, tell me a story where at least all of the idiots messing things up are elected or hired to be in the room messing things up 😭

There's an alternative timeline where Farage died in that plane crash, and UK politics is just hunky dory.

I love a good melted Brit episode.

oh yeah this guy is friends with my dad sorry yall

Annie Kelly

Happy Valentine's Day to everyone involved in my favorite podcast 💘