Melted Election Season feat Dave Weigel (Premium E250)

This Dave Weigel guy seems to have a really balanced, informed perspective. Excellent guest. I've heard some leftist podcasts respond to the "rose-colored glasses" thing with total incredulity, calling it a lie, but it's a real problem showing up in polls, focus groups, and street interviews, as Mr. Weigel explained. (That's why I also listen to Pod Save America, even though I've been so frustrated and angered by their relatively soft stance on Biden's Gaza policies that I unsubscribed twice in the past ten months. But I keep crawling back, because their insider insights on the nuances of what is politically possible in the current system are irreplaceable with the often uninformed speculations of leftist armchair commentators I have more ideological agreement with. Which is also why I _don't_ listen to Pod Save the UK...)

Julian is going to get sent away from the US again 😠 it's not good folks

There's a new paper out by Saverio Roscigo you might want to check out that refutes aspects of Ucenski's paper.

Not in the usa. What was that at the end?

Everything I do I do for you is Bryan Adams, not Meatloaf (who is I would do anything for love (but I won’t do that)) I hope I’m commenting on the right ep

I still think that the email is possibly referencing the All-In Podcast by those brain rot millionaires/billionaires who are either non stop screaming ‘HOT SWAP’ or holding fundraisers for Trump or up RFK’s ass. Absolutely don’t think he’s referencing you guys but the Pod for America yeah.

Oh man. The pov of a bj comment = yep. Oof. But yep. 💯% like that, tho it’s like impossible to find images of the back of his head, (scrubbed from internet?) but yeah when you do catch a glance, there is that quality to it all. I’m gonna barf on myself now.

Considering Dave Weigel goes on so many podcasts, you think he'd spring for a better mic.

Two cents = It wasn’t a debate. Debating a gishgallop is impossible. It’s just a way to make the autocrat look strong.

Hey loved the episode! In may i finished my political science masters and i did my thesis (in part inspired by my love of the show) on the political psychology of conspiracy theories! The article Travis mentioned in the episode was one of my citations, but mostly as a point of critique. I think the "loser" hypothesis of conspiracy theories is kind of...a comfort to people but falls apart when examining history oreven modern autocracies. Its a good paper! But I think overall the loser hypothesis is less causally explanatory than good old fashioned politics. The unfortunate truth is....conspiracy theroies are like lying...its just good politics sometimes! Not to say there aren't psychological factors, but I believe we are going to miss a lot when we pre-describe groups of people we are studying as losers lol Here is my favorite source i used https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12115-023-00816-1 (Cassam, Q. (2023). Conspiracy theories. Society, 60(2), 190–199. if you dont wanna click a link!)

Don't blame me boomers. I tried to pass to baton to the next generation in the 2020 primary. I voted for a young progressive: Bernie Sanders.

It’s good to remember that “Democrat party” is a fox news, daily wire pejorative and using it doesn’t make you a based leftist.

What is wrong with going to bed at 9…LIV?!?!

The Jake short squeeze is ON.

I have a bad bad feeling you guys

Any chance for another Reddit ama ?

I never liked Sleepy Joe and saw him as a low energy candidate in 2020. But now that I’ve learned that he secretly golfs *and* carries his own bag, I am his No. 1 Fan!

Crazy conversation. Choice between an idiot and someone way too old for president. Bon courage.

I do like Jack H, but was thinking his recent “ideas” about Biden’s debate flop are pretty bonkers. I’m not sure about everyone else, but those traumatic 90 minutes about made me projectile vomit.

You aren’t alone. It’s not a conspiracy to say that SCOTUS has empowered a Coup-by-Presidency. Unfortunately it appears there’s nothing that can change it yet. If we get Biden or Kamala in office possibly it can be strengthened and safeguarded. But the presidency after Biden would still pose a risk if Americans vote ignorantly. In short, it’s no longer an option to be “not political” .

The one thing in the debate that wasn't necessarily his fault was the strict time limits, which he did agree to, but didn't exactly do any favors to someone who stutters.

…Waffle House for President?

Julian, when I was young “microphone” was always abbreviated to “mike.” So, whoever wrote what you were reading may well be my age—that is, significantly older than you. Man, woman, person, TV, camera. Yep, still got it.

Jake I see you and I heard that Chumbawumba ref

What is more Trump Stan than saying you would vote for the candidate even if he was dead or a crim tho?

I gotta say, I wasn't prepared for the hostility and denial from some democrats after that debate. Thanks for the analysis of conspiracy theory mindset - I'm convinced a lot of what I'm seeing is fear based trauma response.

Go Jake! Totally agree

*Looks at the spectacle of US elections* Are you not entertained?!

I think picking a new candidate would be totally fine. But I think not picking one will also probably be fine.

I've been spiralling all week and have gotta pull myself out of it before I'm up for this one, I think. Sure it's gonna be a club banger, tho

I will not vote for a convicted felon for any public office, let alone POTUS. Period. Full stop. Or, in the words of Winston Churchill "Fuck that shit!." I don't care if Joe Biden farted and tap-danced his way through that....errr....debate, he'll get my vote.

I was born in the QAnon. Raised by it. Molded by it.

The name/style shift is perfect. Everything is melting around us, QAnon has metastasized into the globe

This is a bad time to be going sober. Good thing I hadn't officially started then lol

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