A Farewell To Bad News feat Ken Klippenstein (E278)
A discussion of the corporatization of media, his departure from The Intercept, how stories get "killed" and how conspiracy theorists and MAGA supporters' claims about the media get their oxygen — with Ken Klippenstein, investigative journalist.
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QAA was formerly known as the QAnon Anonymous podcast.
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So Klippenstein has now gone from working at the GrayZone to working at The Intercept to appearing on Steve Bannon's War Room (a few days ago). Following Glenn Greenwald's path?
Liberals are also victims of corporate media. Difference is conservatives had their own media and discovered trickle down and war on terror were lies being told by their own echo chamber. So they lost their minds.
Yeah, the media is so hard on poor Trump. I remember how they spent way more time on Hillary's email BS while giving Trump free advertising by showing all his fucking rallies live.
"we're waiting for Sondheim to *give* us a hit" 👏👏👏 excellent
Check out the "Alien Addict" podcast, new Q grifters on the scene.
Please tell me there’s going to be a r/DarkKenny episode coming soon. If you haven’t followed the conspiratorial turn of the Drake/Kendrick beef… it has ended up with a relatively small subreddit waiting on Q Drops from a Twitter grifter and baking the music industries tie to sex trafficking. It’s old school Q in there.
I've been called a lot of things because of my Schwab account, but "business" is a new one. (This doesn't negate the point, just maybe not the best example.)
Great episode!! Thanks yall for talking about the genocide. Jake, you are SO empathetic and good hearted, I really been wondering how you really feel! Thanks for talking about Macklemore, agreed the song hits and he’s not shy about anything. Hind’s hall, yall, have a listen! Drake, who? Never heard of her. People are tired of celebrities not speaking up. Much respect to Ken!!!
I got a guy over here ready to throw hands about that Jake comment!
This was very Interesting. Anyone else see the tweet Malcom Nance put out directly addressing this QAA episode and Ken and Jake specifically?
No. Is there a screenshot? Not on Twitter.
I live across the street from the Bohemian Club ama
do they dress funny
Whats the link for the guy baking Blinken's guitar at the end of the video? I'm a pianist so never thought to bake the guitar playing just laughed at how shit he was.
This is one of the all time best episodes that you guys have produced. THANK YOU for covering the destruction of credible journalism under capitalism. Going to share this with everyone I know!
The town I grew up in was about an hour and a half from the Bohemian Grove and as a kid I heard stories about it as a place where old rich guys went to drink and get away from their wives for the weekend.
Heads up that Eva Longoria was on Desperate Housewives and she’s still doing a lot of work! It kind of hurts my heart to hear her described as an actress from a reality show.
That was bizarre. Like, wasn't this your story Ken? Shouldn't you have any idea who this person is?
my dad's been to the bohemian grove his stories about it make it seem really dismal
I’ve read several pieces on it. I’d be interested in any story of someone who’s been there.
This episode makes the whole 4 years of patreon support worth it alone. Of course I love the show and it would have been time and money well spent without Kens input but I'm grateful for the relationships they have.
So am I a dupe for believing what I read on Reuters? I am confused. Also Mark Milley is a hero, at the time of the last election Reuters reported that Milley was in emergency meeting with his Chinese counterparts because rumours were circulating around the Chinese military that if trump lost his administration would nuke one of the Chinese man made islands… Milley also got it in the neck for putting out that fire by the conservatives during a subsequent investigation about those talks
Yeah Milley is absolutely a man of huge integrity and shouldn’t be lumped with the “cash in” crowd of ex senior officers at all. He’s truly what a general should be.
I've always thought that the dem version of Qanon is just the mainstream liberal line of thought that Biden secretly holds all these progressive beliefs and wants to enact these policies but is being held up by saboteurs and "the process"
No one thinks he has secret progressive beliefs. I think the real issue I find myself dealing with is constantly trying to explain 1) what presidents can legally do and can't do, 2) how much trouble we're going to be in if Trump is re-elected, because he won't be following the laws, and 3) how valuable it is to have a government that follows that law.
Sometimes I think Julian's relentless Jake-bullying is excessive then I hear something like "Macklemore 3 for 3"
Ken embarking on his Greenwald/grayzone arc.
Aaron mate makes me cringe
I am curious how the conversation never mentioned Greenwald? It seems many of the views about and experiences with corporate media Ken has are similar to some of the claims and stances Glenn has expressed. I have experienced Greenwald as bitter and annoying so I wouldn't want to make such a comparison but he has complained a lot about institutions being interwoven with the state intelligence apparatus. Is Ken following a road previously paved by Glenn Greenwald? Or is this a starkly different type of situation?
I was wondering the exact same
With Ken's new liberating career horizon and Mehdi Hasan's recent 'Zeteo' channel creation since his injust firing, gotta say am a teeny bit hopeful for the progressive cause within news media. Not loads, but enough to string along this begrudgingly curious gauntlet of entropy resistance for a tad longer anyhow! 👌🤞👩🔬✊ Hey would Mehdi come on this show at all? Does he return your phone calls?
Jake (or editors): Brevity, please. Also, ask questions when you’re interviewing a guest and let them speak, don’t just make long-winded points. The Jake derails and are a lot of fun - when they don’t go on for minutes at a time. I actually hate to say it, but when there’s an interesting guest on, I’ve started to cringe slightly when Jake starts speaking, because things might go on forever. Like Jake would say, it’s like being cornered at a party. For most episodes, again, it’s fun, but for serious discussions, brevity, please.
None of what happened on Jan 6 could have happened without Facebook and Fox. Don’t stray. Don’t fantasize.
Completely agree. "Facebook disinfo massively helped cause 1/6," used to be a main QAA topic, backed up by lots of evidence. Please more normie Travis stuff and less 'both-sides-are-the-same' Julian bullshit.
Why is Malcolm Nance a buffoon for saying university protestors were going to be targeted by heavy federal surveillance and then twenty minutes later you guys were talking about how ceasefire protestors were under heavy federal surveillance?
I think they didn't do a great job explaining it but basically he keeps making posts about how their WILL be a terrorist attack and public opinion WILL flip on the war and protesters. Just an unhinged guy.
Best wishes, Kenny K. I don’t trust Aaron Sorkin, especially since he made David Dellinger punch a bailiff in the Chicago 8 trial! This never happened, and, if Sorkin thought it was “emotionally real” or some such writerly excuse, he was very wrong. It was an insult to Dave’s memory, his family, his place in history. Okay, I am also still mad at Peter Jackson for messing with Faramir, but Faramir is fiction, Dave was our friend and comrade. Do better, Sorkin. (Faramir? Trained with Gandalf for years, and one of the very few characters, and the only Man, who was not affected by the One Ring. Also a loyal son of his mad dad, Denethor, Faramir was an elite soldier and kind of a stealthy forest ranger/botanist. In the movie, Peter Jackson made him as Ring-hungry as any other. Sigh.)
Speaking of the Chicago Seven, there's an old TV-version from the 80s which I found quite good at the time. I think it's actually based on the transcripts.
Thanks Jake, I feel the same about Drake
Ken is a real one for leaving The Intercept. Much respect.
Ken talks about how media companies hire "experts" who will parrot what the media company wants them to say. (in other words, spout their opinions) I see the same thing in the legal system. The prosecution will pick and choose among "experts" to parrot their opinions to support the prosecutions position. (Usually, only the prosecution has the money for these experts. The defendant almost never has the resources to hire an "expert" to supportthe defense) In both cases the incentive for the experts is to say whatever is in their customers (the media, prosecution) best interests. Otherwise the expert will get a reputation for not "playing ball" and so not getting hired anywhere.
What's the difference between an expert and an "expert?"
My mans K.Klipps!
Disappointed in the trajectory of the Intercept.
jerk off motion
Ken’s sub stack is the only one I’m subscribed to and the only one I’ve ever actually read. Good shit Ken rules
Yeah his story on the drone base in Jordan is ballin I gotta get in there now
When I heard he left I was excited for this interview. Go Kenny Klips
This is how I learned Kenny Kipps left The Intercept
yooo
