March 23, 2026

EARLY EPISODE: The Battle of Ramree Island

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The Battle of Ramree Island has gone down in history for being known for one thing: a massive crocodile attack that apparently destroyed the Japanese as they attempted to retreat. But, what if we told you that that popular story was completely made up by one guy who wasn't even there at the time?

Sources:

Allen, Louis. Burma: The Longest War

McLynn, Frank. The Burma Campaign: Disaster into Triumph, 1942–45

Wright, B. S. (1962). Wildlife Sketches: Near and Far.

Wright, B. S. (1968). The Frogmen of Burma

Platt, Steven. Man eating by Estuarine Crocodiles: the Ramree Island massacre revisited

Lyons, Chuck. The Mystery at the Battle of Ramree Island. WWII History. Vol. 25. No. 1

Frazier, George. A Man's Worst Friend. The Boston Globe Archive. https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/438950677/

https://the-avocado.org/2019/03/02/things-that-are-not-the-horrors-of-ramree-island/

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/history/article/crocodile-massacre-of-troops-debunked-as-wartime-myth-k6vxhdfsq

Comments (59)

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Vincent_van_Ghoul · April 30, 2026

Literally crying laughing at Tom's story about the nature documentary

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Tom · April 27, 2026

Listen, I don't doubt that the crocodile attack didn't actually happen, but it's still a great, horrifying story.

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Brandon P · April 2, 2026

Ooooh is it Brooks!? Is Brooks the litigious nerd!?

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Brandon P · April 2, 2026

Load-bearing Nate.

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Callum · April 1, 2026

The dichotomy of Joe not enjoying Disco Elysium but non stop sweating on E33 is so funny

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ZombieDwarf · April 1, 2026

He contains multitudes.

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Anton Chigur · March 31, 2026

Nate shut up

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Death hippy · March 28, 2026

Would really love an episode on the battle of pilot knob Missouri

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Tyrone Slothrust · March 28, 2026

What’s the go fund me for making Tom livestream FF7, I will kick scrill to almost any cause

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John Marshall · March 27, 2026

Here for the 'head hate

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Scott S. · March 27, 2026

I knew a guy in the USMC whose last name was Moredic, which I can only assume is related to Mordecai, but goddamn did he get so much shit for it. We also had a Lieutenant whose name was Pickle; at least he was pretty good-natured about how many times folks would say that "we seem to be in quite the pickle." Come to think of it, our XO was named Wagner, although whether or not he loved the cock was unknown.

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Warthog · March 25, 2026

Why doesn't Tom like the book Say Nothing?

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Jon O · March 27, 2026

I am seriously curious about this as well.

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Olafo Waffle · March 25, 2026

Yes I want Tom to grind trying to breed chocoboos so he can get knights of the round

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ruin · March 25, 2026

I have a friend from Burma and he has multiple terrifying wildlife stories, including getting corveed and one of the guys on the work crew getting eaten by a fucking tiger.

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Jake Rawls · March 25, 2026

I struggled with Baldur's Gate 3 as well. Loved the story, but the combat mechanics got annoying/tiresome after a while. Maybe it gets better and I need to stick it out a little longer, but I didn't gel with it.

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Brandon P · April 2, 2026

It helps to have a friend who knows what they're doing but I can confirm, it's like KC:D where it'll take you 25hrs to get the combat down but when you do it's one of the most satisfying feelings.

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Alexander Doring · March 25, 2026

Anyone know what shitty British author Joe is talking about? I desire the drama

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Jon O · March 25, 2026

Came here for the same thing.

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Final Bond Girl · March 24, 2026

Funnily enough I listened to this while playing Disco Elysium.

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Gil the Gilded Dragon · March 24, 2026

Observations: Joe doing the whole Blind Seer/Rhapsode Like if Homer did the Soma-plant & kept calling Menelaus "a fail brother that's just whining because Paris didn't peg him" A fine specimen of the historian/soothsayer tradition indeed. Also: praise Sobek, lord of ejaculation, divine crocodile of cocodrilopolis, personal sire to each and every of those ancient beasts! (Alas Lowmax is getting cucked by The God Who Eats While He Fucks)

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Gil the Gilded Dragon · March 24, 2026

Ah. Not so much that the media isn't for you but one being not for the media. Like ditto on DE it's made for me but I can't fit myself to it

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Noblese Oblahaj · March 24, 2026

If you can't play Disco Elysium, I would recommend listening to someone playing it. I listened to WoolieVs playing it and even having played the game,.it was hilarious, and I could start and stop listening to it in a way I couldn't if I was playing the game.

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Noblese Oblahaj · March 24, 2026

There's an American Dad episode where Steve and a teenager with a British accent get lost in a jungle. He keeps saying absurd shit that his accent makes sound plausible that keeps hurting Steve. That's what I kept thinking of when Joe was talking about the dumb British historian

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Noblese Oblahaj · March 24, 2026

Nate: as someone who also has ADD, I think the thing your describing is this. Part of ADD is finding anything that doesn't interest you boring. Intolerably boring. But if you find something that interests you and requires a lot of thought and attention to detail, it's like crack. I can be completely and utterly bored by something normal people love, but lock the fuck in putting together a Warhammer mini or reading history or whatever niche interest I fall into on a given day.

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LeobaL · March 24, 2026

As someone who's had their work stolen by a hack writer of dodgy e-books, a sudden change in tone is a very obvious sign of stolen work. In this case, it was first person in a book written in third person. In my case, I'm a food historian and I have online recipes and ingredient articles. The recipes are written in Oppression Units (if the stupid Imperial system of measurement is "freedom units" then the much more logical metric system must be "Oppression Units"). If you cobble together an e-book of recipes to make a quick buck off Wolf Hall, make sure all the recipes are written with the same units of measurement. And for that matter, standardise the spelling. It makes your plagiarism easy to detect ...

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Panic Enthusiast · March 24, 2026

Its all good until youre counting the bandaids and the battalion medical section has a 3mil line item inventory because everything is 1(ea) and single use.. Its great being doc, until inventory...

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Tom · March 24, 2026

Y’all should’ve gone supply it was amazing. 5 years of autistic zen making shit fit correctly. Minus the year you get augmentee’d to be a convoy driver. That part is kinda ass.

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Tom · March 24, 2026

Draping 80s flak jackets over the door of your open window hoping it stops an IED

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LeobaL · March 24, 2026

A lot of people who live in the region of Myanmar today don't like "Myanmar," because it derives from the language of the Bamar people, and they use this as an excuse to claim the entire country is theirs so they can wipe out other minorities like the Rohingya. "Burma" also derives from Bamar, but this was imposed by the British, so ironically isn't as problematic.

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Connor Barth · March 24, 2026

Can't wait to listen to The Hooligans of Radiohead

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Tom Bellas · March 23, 2026

Deploying Brits to Burma is like sending Cadians to a Catachan-like Death World

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MGS4: Goons of the Patriots · March 23, 2026

Too much radio, not enough head.

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Eric Lee · March 23, 2026

Butchers crossing referenced and my day is better

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Loquin Britton-Herndon · March 23, 2026

I wanted to love Garden State so much and I just didn't.

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Kaiju and Chill · March 23, 2026

Radiohead is the music equivalent of Seinfield. It sucks and their fan base is fucking annoying. Tom York isn't a groomer tuough... He just looks like one.

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Ben Schwabe · March 23, 2026

You left rays out of your list of dangerous animals in mangrove swamps, my brother got stung by one on the Ecuador coast and couldn't get to medical care until the tide came in so the boat could travel. He says his leg swelled the hell up and it took weeks for the sting wound to heal over. Radiohead's best song is Creep and they've been downhill ever since.

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Stephen · March 23, 2026

Speaking as someone in their mid 30s, the radio head (who are terrible) conversation was absolutely brilliant

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GC · March 23, 2026

preach

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Al · March 23, 2026

My wife's mom served in the Navy, she served alongside a gal named Swallows. Seaman Swallows was thankfully promoted at her CO's insistence at the next available opportunity.

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Jonathan Grafton · March 23, 2026

Getting this the day I have to put my dog down has been a blessing. Fent Chud has come in clutch

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Tom · April 27, 2026

Sorry to hear that. I've unfortunately had a bad couple of year stretch of having to put dogs down, so I can definitely feel your pain.

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Hey mind your business, name's not important · March 23, 2026

I agree with Nate on the Suicide being a difficult band to listen to. Definitely an acquired taste.

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Adam Barker-wyatt · March 23, 2026

Shout-out to my granddad who was deployed to Burma by the British army in WW2 and contracted malaria there 🎉🎉🎉💯💯💯

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Jan · March 23, 2026

The dense novel comparison is easily Joe's most baffling take by a wide margin. Like there are degrees to this, but I wholeheartedly believe that active listening is a skill analogous to literacy.

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Jan · March 23, 2026

"It should just be easily understandable" genuinely hit me like he said Kubrik should have been making TikToks.

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I_like_planes_and_cities · March 23, 2026

Man, what are the odds of me rolling through the main gate at my base after hearing all the lovely names in your previous units and the E-1 scanning my CAC name was Reddick. Of course the scanning thingy was slowly so I’m trying so hard not laugh of the imagery platoon in my head of Cum, Pussi, and Reddick.

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P.A.L. · March 23, 2026

I will buy that book when the physical version comes out.

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Lions Led By Donkeys Podcast · March 23, 2026

For now only a digital version is planned.

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jackson macpherson · March 23, 2026

The retreat during the Burma campaign is one of those historical moments where I am shocked by the descriptions of almost unimaginable suffering and then remember it was the IJA so sucks to suck.

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Colin Reed · March 23, 2026

Disco elysium mentioned! Incredible game but I understand

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Sulaiman · March 23, 2026

Zoo crew: if you somehow get Tom to play FF7 on camera I would happily pay to watch that as a special LLBD sub series lol

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NowhereMan661 · March 23, 2026

I fucking love Nate's Cajun French

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Ben Yardley · March 23, 2026

LLBD: when context attacks

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farin · March 23, 2026

Nate: for good documentaries on YouTube apply your German and French skills and look up arte the documentaries are usually solid

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Matt · March 23, 2026

This was the real Hunger Games.

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NowhereMan661 · March 23, 2026

I just realized that Joe's new book kinda sounds like Vinland Saga.

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Sulaiman · March 23, 2026

Oh god I can see "bogmaxxing" becoming a thing

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sistertotherain9 · March 23, 2026

The most unfortunately named people I ever met in the military were Private Raper and Seaman Guzzel.