BONUS: The English Pirates of the Mediterranean
It's the late 16th century and the Ottoman Empire is continuing to advance across the eastern Mediterranean. In Istanbul, the Ottomans have begun ratifying ambassadorships and trade deals with the English crown. And in the middle of this comes a crew of the most sunburned Barbary Pirates you've ever met, hell-bent on plundering any ship they can find before they high-tail it back to...England?
Research: Dr Joel Butler
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Comments (60)
"Martin Frobisher, west African weeb" was not something I expected
Despite the reasons for it being very sad, I absolutely enjoyed the unshackled 'Obscure Band References And Also Some History Power Hour'!
Condolences to Joe in this heavy time.
Condolences Joe! I’m sorry for your loss
OH YEAH! THAT’S THE BELL RINGERS I PAY $5 A MONTH FOR! Condolences to Joe, sorry to hear it. That said, I did like the Tom and Nate host. Very different energy but great job! Was hoping to hear more of those bar stories.
Condolences to Joe for what its worth. I will not stand for this Guy Picciotto bashing. He played all the good guitar parts on everything from kill taker onwards. And the one last wish discography lp craps all over end on end. (Also he's how he I realised I was into dudes. Motherfucker was hot once he grew his hair out)
What’s the name of the gay guy who became Turkish to avoid punishment for being gay? I couldn’t quite catch it in the audio
My uncles have written a book about our great great grandfathers time in Helles- what's the best way to get you guys a copy?
(Gallipoli) colonel sir Henry Darlingtons letters
Having lived a bunch of my life in bars, big love to the double down on 1st Ave in the village playing fisting videos at happy hour, and I have absolutely played “the snake & the stick” by Oxbow to clear the bar of wastrels and errant lovers
Wooot LLBD Leather Bar Edition
Oh my condolences to Joe. 1) empanadas are introduced to Iberia during Al Andaluz. The type of crust is different. 2) Cornish Pasties are not Spain, they are Mexico. For real. We needed miners & you left behind pastes
With the jokes in this about saying the Shahada in various regional British accents, I'm reminded of KJB talking about The Wind and the Lion and all the jokes about Sean Connery pronouncing Arabic. And somehow can't stop imagining the Shahada in Connery voice
Condolences Joe. Inna lillahi wa inna ilahi rajiun
Nate’s Wilfred Owen joke sadly unappreciated by Tom
The drummer of my band is a stagehand union audio engineer and he has used Merzbow to get people to leave both events and also his house on multiple ocassions.
Empañadas come from Sephardi Jewish cuisine originally.
Armenian's asleep, post Ottomans! (also I hope Joe's doing OK)
If I was going to clear out a bar, I'd play Work Harder Not Smarter on 3.5x speed
Condolences to Joe and hope he takes all the time he needs to take care of himself. Nate and Tom got this well handled.
When I was a stripper, my favorite DJ would play Loser by Beck when it was the end of a night and the johns hadn't tipped 🤣
HEEEEYYY...... WHATS YER NAMMME?
Idk who's seeing these, but my thoughts are with you Joe! That being said, let Nate and Joe go wild sometimes lmao 😅
No idea if you’re reading these comments, Joe, but I hope you know we’re all on your side brother.
This. We are with you in mind and spirit 🫂
The insult for the pasties is untold and unwarranted; Please do not insult the native cuisine.
PASTIES?!?
My sincere condolences to Joe and his family. There’s never the right words for a time like this, so I will say a prayer for you and your family. I know you’re not a big “prayer” guy but nonetheless.
Blokes sunburned so bad they're called jamón inglés.
What’s this book of folks calling into the gay bar, or did I hallucinate that aside?
I need it too
I would suggest turning “invade Cornwall; say the Shahada” into a tshirt, but it might actually get someone killed
All English people yearn for Spain. Have you seen Sexy Beast?
Tom, the poppers joke… what would the novel Oliver Twist be called if he was gay The Popping Pauper
Best regards and condolences to Joe and his family.
RUN THE JORDANS MFERS also, on a serious note, condolences to Joe and his family,
CornwallHub
Sorry about your loss, Joe. Take all the time you need.
Should have been complaining about wanting to hear "Welcome to the Pleasuredome"
Can you get contact bisexuality? I just have the overwhelming urge to eat hot chips and charge my phone.
Condolences to Joe. Great to see an unleashed Nate and Tom though, just a bummer way to get it.
There are so many amazing esoteric jokes and references that I do not understand in this episode. Joe's not here, let the floodgates open!
Sorry Joe, I hope all is well with you mentally and emotionally as you go through these tough moments in your life. Love ya bud.
Deepest condolences Joe, we're thinking of you and we love you.
Sorry, Joe. I hope it’s not a family member you like.
Sorry for you lose, Joe. Since Dad is away we have an entire episode of asides with some story.
If I wasn't a lazy sack of crap, I'd get into audio editing and make a supercut of all of Nate's tangents for my listening enjoyment.
Sorry to hear about your loss Joe! Take as much time as you need, I’m sure I speak for everyone in the community that we’re sending good vibes to you and your family in this difficult time.
Very sorry for your loss, Joe.
Not gonna lie pirates of the Mediterranean sounds like a bad anti-woke knockoff of pirates of the Caribbean produced by the daily wire.
LMFAO YOURE SO RIGHT(not the daily wire type of right)
Condolences to Joe 🫂
Halfway through the podcast I started imagining Cuno from Disco Elysium reading the shahada. Thanks for that
sick asf lmao
Tom and Nate are left alone and the pod descends into the music corner.
And it rules so much.
The one straight host leaves and y'all immediately do one about the British Navy. Pride is back on the menu boys
Yo hoo!
Empanadas have a LONG association with Spain- going back to the 7th century at least. The name translates to "breaded" or "wrapped in bread." As for any association with Cornish pasties, wrapping food in pastry was common all over Europe, and were popular in Britain as street food, particularly the pie. The pie has reached its pinnacle in Australia and New Zealand. As for baked beans - the British got this from Spain as well, however industrialisation fucked the dish up.
All this mention of empanadas has gotten me hungry. I might have to stop at a bodega to get some now lol.