EARLY EPISODE: The Texas Revolution: Part 1
The first in our four-part series about the Texas Revolution, a story in which some of the drunkest and worst-smelling guys of the 19th century decided to break away from Mexico for... reasons.
Sources:
Edward Baptist. The Half Has Never Been Told: Slavery and the Making of American Capitalism
Randolph Campbell. An Empire for Slavery: The Peculiar Institution in Texas, 1821–1865
Stephen Hardin. Texian Illad.
Andrew Torget. Seeds of Empire: Cotton, Slavery, and the Transformation of the Texas Borderlands, 1800–1850
Comments (58)
The toxic waste sites in Niagara County, New York. Start with love canal and work your way out. Many are still suffering up here.
"Freedonia" is the name of the country in the Marx Brothers' film "Duck Soup." It has a national anthem: "Hail, hail Freedonia/ Land of the brave and the free."
Cormac McCarthy was born in RI and grew up in Tennessee.
I remember reading The Road for summer reading at some point during high school, junior year maybe. My English teachers may have just been a little cracked.
Not me placing holds on all of these Cormac McCarthy books on Libby. I listen to audio books at work, I can’t wait to horrify people that wander into my office.
Are Cossacks also spiritually Boer? They definitely had very unwashed asses.
That Güey was scary pitch perfect. Fuck Oh hey! A member of my family mentioned!
The best vessel for chili is Fritos. Specifically the scoops. I don’t make the rules!
"Painting a big 3 on the side of my horse in honor of Dale" was such a banger that it seemed like neither of the boys truly appreciated. Nick woulda got that one.
As a Southwestern resident, our Mexican food slaps. Especially when it is like Mexican-Native American infused food is amazing. The best Mexican food is always the small hole in the wall spots. Mexican-Texas BBQ is amazing too.
Tom, Robert Earle Keene and Stevie Ray Vaughan came out to Texas. There are other musicians like Jimmy Dale Gilmore who are Texan. “Texian” is one of the stupidest f-ing monikers I’ve ever heard. And I think Charles Whitman, (the UT Austin tower sniper and mass murderer,) came out of Texas. So there’s that.
Actually, Nate, y’all refers to a small group of people and all y’all refers to a larger group. “If I could get all y’all to move over to this side that would be great.” Also, you can say anything nasty about someone if you either start or end the sentence with “bless her/his/their heart.” I’m not a Texan, I’m a California native and current resident who lived in Austin for six years.
To be fully pedantic, y’all is the second person plural pronoun and “all” functions as an intensifier. Bless my heart.
Anna Hawk? Boy I say I say you mean An-uh-whack?
Also, Nack-uh-doh-Chez
I know for a fact there is a small town of Fredonia, Kentucky. It's about a mile south of Mexico, Kentucky
There is Fredonia, NY. It is not near Mexico, NY
Leaving Cert 2016 also had The Road (I had Nate's same reaction lol) but the play was King Lear and the movie was The King's Speech. The poets were Yeats and Plath of course. Real sunshiny literature that year. Irish school is absolutely more metal.
Captains are just the Texan version of Uncs.
It seems like the early settlers of every single Setteler Colonial project are always the most deranged, psychotic, and evil mothefuckers on Earth without exception. Blood Meridian is a documentary, and I hate that.
Truth. People wanted some food with spices and then went insane and genocidal. Fucking A.
Keep Austin wierd!
Great podcast, but every time I hear them talking about ass carapaces I am horrified
In Australia here. I use a credit card for online purchases or places I think could be dodgy. It's the bank's money and if something goes wrong, I can refute the charge and if successful/legit, I just don't pay the bank that debt as they clear it - as opposed to debit where my money is gone and the bank can't get it back.
So excited for this series!!!! Can't wait for the next one. good episode, was playing Fallout 4 and listening and almost killed my character from laughing at the bits.
Now I want chili with cornbread
So do I, except I'm a non-texan heathen who puts beans in her chili.
Genuinely never thought I’d hear Tom reference the 7 Million Dollar Bull Rider
Best in the game (Tom)
Tom is more right about the Jihad thing than he knows. Journalist Molly Conger has a podcast called Weird Little Guys, where she examines past and present figures of the American Right. Some recent episodes discussed how American fascists- literal nazis- had islamist friends and would send them money, sympathize with their cause, etc. Incredibly interesting stuff.
Molly has it down. Incredible journalist. I have know this since the forever wars. It's just a protracted Jihad. Dumbshits beefing over dead dead guys who were probably schizophrenic.
I like a good post apocalypse book. Shame so many of them are male POV basic bitch power fantasies- isekai books for preppers. I always thought The Earth Abides was a good, interesting book. I've also heard great things about On The Beach.
I never much cared for The Road because it is too over the top and one note. You can't really build despair or twist the knife without hope, or humor. There is no 'hey, pull my finger's moment in The Road as there was in Children of Men. It makes horror and inhumanity boring and predictable. It isn't bad writing, but it's like a one hour loop of an otherwise enjoyable song.
Chili is meant to be hot and plenty of it. If beans are around why wouldn’t you throw them in. I’m an 8th generation Texan on my mom’s side and Yankee by way of Dayton then Detroit on my dad’s side. My point being chili is what you make it and it’s great. Also Nate is 100% correct Houston is 3rd coast/salt lyfe/ gateway to the Americas/a beautiful chopped and screwed rhyme all mixed up together in an ancient alluvial flood plain bayou filled swamp with the best food from all over the world. We’ve got mosquitoes sure but at least it ain’t Dallas!
Nate had me I genuinely believed I drove through a Fredonia IL somewhere south on I-57
I’m sure this will be one-to-one with what I learned in 7th grade Texas History class at my public middle school in East Texas
“…Americans are comfortable with the concept of jihad but not the name.” Tom understands Americans better than most Americans.
Ugh my Texas side are *those* people. Not first 300 families but personal friends of Sam Houston and so many of my grand fathers and uncles have been named after him.
Damn it, that ancestor's wife is likely to be part of the first 300 (James Jones) family. I have the most cursed family history.
San Antonio de Bay-har (Bexar). Though everyone just calls it Bear County now.
Beans or bust I say.
Hail hail Freedonia, a land I didn’t make up! Also Tom Maxo Kream would like a word about that only good thing outta Texas statement
There is no escaping the ass carapace
I’ve been waiting for this one y’all. Here’s some book recommendations that discusses the Texas Revolution, The Alamo, slavery in the United States, how the mythology developed over decades and centuries and other conflicts in the area included the American Civil war in the Rio Grande Valley region. Forget the Alamo: the rise and fall of an American myth (2021) War and Peace on the Rio Grande Frontier, 1830–1880 (2020) South to Freedom: Runaway Slaves to Mexico and the Road to the Civil War (2020) Also recommend some historical fiction set in Texas with the backdrop what it’s like to grow up with that myth taught. Not so much about the Texas Revolution itself, but the aftermath with the hero worship, narrative, mythology, etc. (1990). George Washington Gómez. (1996). Caballero (2024). The bullet swallower
Texas chili is more about the spices where as other chili is about the ingredients and a bit more hearty. Then you get into coney sauces which is about the base and less about the ingredients and lesser with the spices. Spices are important but rather then treating them like a separate ingredient they are used during making the base. Mainly sweet spices are used. Mainly cinnamon.
🎵 Rock me Mama like a wagon wheel, Getting cholera is the way I feel 🎵
Slavery and not paying taxes. Those are the reasons.
Ah yes, the Republic of Texas— as opposed to the Republic of California (which became my home state—less slavery, still incredibly racist).
Let Texas secede. We will just see that they will need democracy aagain and more McDonald's and just take it back. Like, Texas don't seem to understand this fact.
YEEHAW! About time we got the Donk treatment. Surely there will be no details or nuance that was left out of 7th grade Texas history
Wait, what? You have a guy in this episode named Steve Austin and no "stone cold" joke?
Fredonia like from the Marx Brothers?
Man, many southwest and northern mexico history can summarized as "oh hey things might be better, oh wait it not, FUCK!" atleast we got new technology" Also deporations, lots and lots of deporations. Edit: agree texas/tex-mexican food is great. Seriously it almost like crack to me
Fuck the Astros
https://defector.com/i-too-would-hit-my-opponent-with-a-baseball-to-eliminate-the-astros-from-the-playoffs
Ah yes, the texas "revolution", aka that time where americans help the locals to fight tyrant, only to backstab them, put enforced segregation on them(that wasn't lifted until 1965) and brought back slavery. Every since i visted san antonio last year. I was hoping do this "revolution" and how the offfical alamno really white washed these events. Even more so then you think
Cypher has called this out as well. There's a fake Texas Historical Commission that's been trying to cover up real Texas history because of the book, Don't Remember the Alamo.
I've been waiting for this series for so long. Can't wait to hear the riffs on actual family history
