BONUS EPISODE: The Tarnak Farm Incident ft. Robert Evans
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Joe is joined by Robert Evans, Host of Behind the Bastards, to talk about the time a US Air Force Pilot took a bunch of uppers and bombed Canadian Forces in 2002.
Sources:
Mike Friscolanti. Friendly Fire: The Untold Story of the U.S. Bombing that Killed Four Canadian Soldiers in Afghanistan
https://www.jstor.org/stable/45302199
https://www.goflightmedicine.com/post/tarnak-farm-reckless-pilots-speed-or-fog-of-war
https://www.chicagomag.com/chicago-magazine/april-2005/harry-schmidts-war/
Comments (41)
Well, in a civilian court, that meets the standard of a 1st degree murder. Especially false self defense. Got off free, essentially..
Dear god I love robert and Joe episodes. My two favorites (+ tom and nate of course) I will be listening to their new podcast for sure
Joe and Robert are such a good combo. I love their chaos energy
Oh man, the Canadian stuff hasn't aged well. Sorry Canada. Most of (the) US still love you! <3
You shit talk Ohio again? You son of a biscuit. Why Joe? Havent its people suffered enough?
Looks like Harry Schmidt became CEO of a hospital
He’s currently head of “business strategies” at O’Shea Builders in Illinois
Any chance y'all will cover the 1994 Blackhawk shoot down?
Just to pile in on this a bit more, I've read a number of memoirs of people who flew close air support missions. The best ( Da Nang Diaries ) is about an American forward air controller who also did CAS in his prop plane Often below 5,000 feet and at more than half the speed of an F16, these planes were still very hard to take down with just rifles and machine guns. If the F16 pilot thought he was in serious danger from small arms or unguided munitions at 20,000 feet, he is either stupid or lying.
You can tell just by looking at flight times that the pilots are being given drugs. Look at any strategic bomber flight. Hell, they had to fly the A-10s across the Atlantic for the Gulf War and that thing is slower than a fart in a stiff headwind. There's a book ( Warthogs? ) where the pilots talk about how much it sucked, because the A10 had such crude navigational avionics. Also one of the A-10s in the squadron had a gas leak that was pumping fumes into the cockpit and they didn't realize until they were hundreds of miles out across the ocean
I love that you have robert on for the first time in forever and it comes right back around to "bomb the great lakes". Damn was this glorious.
Once on r/meth I saw a post by a Senegalese pilot post picture of barrel bombs in his plane while saying how much he loved taking meth and dropping bombs 😂😂😂
Woooo crossover between my 2 fav podcasts!!
"Yes, erm, you named your plane the Canuck Compactor, care to explain your thought process there?"
Interesting thing about pilot callsigns: you don’t choose yours. It’s chosen by your peers, and frequently references something embarrassing (Google “callsign STAB” for a good story of one). So for a pilot to get the callsign “Psycho”, either there’s a good story behind it, or he’s such a legitimate psychopath that even his fellow fighter pilots couldn’t think of anything worse to call him.
Love the BTB x LLBD crossovers. They’re excellent
Ayyy it's THE Robert Evans! He's the reason I ended up here in the first place, somehow
For me it’s WTYP such odd networking bubbles in the Podcastersphere
But where does wall factor in?
hell yeah, was wondering when we'd get another episode of lions led by bastards. Behind the Donkeys? IDK. I can has Enver "shit-hawk" Pasha plz?
new patreon goal
From what I know about pilot call signs, you don't pick them for yourself. Your squadron assigns you one in the same way a college frat assigns nicknames. Meaning the rest of his squadron looked at him and went "...yeah, Psycho."
I knew a “Janice”. Similar laugh. Navy pilot.
Best crossover wtfffff
The dream team lets gooooo
Schmidt would absolutely bomb Chicago if given the chance. If he still lives here, I'll put money on him being one of those obnoxious Illinoisans that's constantly pushing ballot initiatives to secede from Chicagoland.
Was totally thinking the exact same thing when I heard that lol.
robert finally making it on the donkcast really is how I would find out the ICC got a rare dub rest in piss rodrigo
Some BtB and LLBD on a mediocre Wednesday to pick me up, let’s go!
oh SHIT, ITS DANK CROSSOVER TIME
1: call a Pat a Princess. They love it. 2:CAF command applies Don't Ask Don't Tell to anything uncomfortable or uneasant. 3: Those boys were probably gonna die in a roll-over eventually.
Good god. From Case Western Reserve University: "Join the Military Science Club to hear retired Major Harry Schmidt for a presentation titled 'Leadership Lessons from a Combat Cockpit' Friday Nov 10 (2017)"
Apparently he was the CEO of Passavant Area Hospital in Jacksonville Illinois at the time.
I've now got Hanson in my head, because of Umbach's name (also, hell yeah, Robert Evannnnssss)
I wasn’t gonna drop a bomb, but then I got high… Wasn’t gonna kill those guys, but then I got high… Did a whole bunch of crimes, and I know why Because I got high, because I got high, because I got hiiiiigh…
Damn they gave him the rubber room treatment for bad teachers. Should’ve been a lot more.
What's Tarnakin' my Farmers!?
Tough Actin' Tarnakin
Dang, I used to know people who were on the ground when that happened
Ayyy, my two favorite podcasters together again!
Let’s fuckin gooooo