EARLY EPISODE: The Battle of the Kalka River ft. Milo Edwards
Joe and Tom are joined by Trashfuture's Milo Edwards to talk about the time a bunch of guys named Mstislav got destroyed by the Mongols.
Sources:
Leo De Hertog. Genghis Khan: Conqueror of the World.
Richard Gabriel. Subotai The Valiant: Genghis Khan's Greatest General.
The Chronicle of Novgorod. chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://faculty.washington.edu/dwaugh/rus/texts/MF1914.pdf
Victor Kamenir. Russian Disaster at the Kalkha River. Military Heritage. Vol 20, no. 6
Robert Rossabi. All the Khan's Horses.
Comments (56)
Coming back almost a year later and Joe is into Warhammer.
Listening to the fall of civilizations podcast on the Mongols and had to come back to relisten to this classic
If only the Mstislav's had combined to form Mstislav Prime.
Hi, I'm Dmitri, this is my brother Mstislav and my other brother Mstislav
Top 3 funniest Episode of all time
Can’t believe no one made the Space Balls joke of “how many mstislavs we got on this ship anyhow?!” Also, the numbering scheme for Mstislav is based on which jersey numbers have been retired. Mstislav 23 was also known as was His Airness
All I can think of is an "I'm with Mstislav" shirt like the I'm with stupid ones.
Council of Mstislav merch when?
One Mstislav is to be commended for bravery, and the other Mstislav is to be executed. It is vital that nothing mistake can be made, so I have set the task to my faithful servant, Хенниморь
(Listening to this podcast as I eat Fuqi Feipian--spicy Chinese beef tripe/tongue/tendon) I feel seen...
Moon Turk Moon Mstislav war episode, when?
I have long daydreamed of the Milo-E-Donk episode. I’m so stoked
Joe the merch store absolutely isn’t restocked
Joe didn't remember the logistics, o tempora, o mores
I don’t know if anyone remembers the original premise of the TV show The L Word but today when I saw Milo was the guest I realised I was completely capable of making a highly detailed Podcast version of The Chart off the dome….. now I’m asking myself if is this a problem?
Lot of Slavic given names end with -slav because it means fame, glory or to celebrate, to glorify. Also Msti- mean vengance so I asume they weren't nicest of people.
More Milo Please
Okay, for the life of me I can't figure out how to spell that one song you folks keep talking about? You know, the fake Dutch one? Help a brother out?
Here you go homie Honkbal Hoofdklasse
So the Rus where Swedish/germanic people that adapted into Slavic groups. So my family Also I i can help image the mistaslav as Ms. Slav. Again it reminds of the viking name joke from spongebob Olaf expect the captain
Planning to name my Warhammer ttrpg Commissar Mstislav after this.
I need a grand council of Mistaslav T-shirt
Mr. Slav the Mute kind of sounds like a character from Tower of Fools who needs a person to translate what is being said.
“Weird Meat Meridian” is a fantastic name for a jam band.
Honestly, a Mystislav Legion would probably fit the lore of Trench Crusade fairly easily
Will the real Mistaslav please stand up?
"Your not my real mistaslav" 😂
Liam and Nova, thank you for facilitating this ❤️
Homespun Adidas would be a great name for a bardcore punk band.
Incidentally Ted Cruz called us in New Zealand bad allies because we apparently are refusing IDF soldiers visas. (We aren’t, they travel visa free here ). Bit rude. Especially when a bunch of Israeli intelligence types got busted generating fraudulent passports her not all that long ago. Keep your fucking Ted out of my country please.
Shearing the copper bush is what this redhead does every week, babyeee!
The Hague Humanitarians [named for the humanitarian crimes]
Just dropped my son off, laid back in the chair, and new donk episode.... (Kronk Voice) "Oh Yeah, it's all coming together now."
Oi, селёдка под шубой is good if made at all competently.
Salad in China is always drenched in Mayonnaise, it's disgusting. The Chinese word for mayo is "shalajiang" (salad dressing). They put mayo on almost all western food in China as a substitute for cheese. I had to throw away a few sandwiches because there was nothing but mayo on them.
The reason why everyone was raving about "Everything Everywhere All At Once", Milo, is because they have souls.
The dog’s name is Sophie, the girl’s name is Mirafan, and the boy’s name is Nedelin.
Most DeadHeads don’t buy records, they share live recordings of shows for free online. Very affordable if annoying hobby for Tom to pursue
Ahem. Henry Ford wouldn't have been slitting throats himself. That would have been handled by Harry Bennett and the Ford Service Department.
Steely Dan is great for tamping down anxiety.
I can’t hold all these Mstislavs
Love this episode of Lionology
If you wanna die, take a shot every time they say Mstislav
Okay you wanted to make a drinking game not make a suicide attempt.
Mstislav... just in case nobody heard it the other 10,000 times lol. I do wish we had a way to see how many times you said Mstislav.
I was first taken out by the phrase “student of Slavology”, which got me because my literal major in college was Slavic Languages and Literatures. Then I was entertained by the several minute long disclaimer about how “Kievan Rus was NOT Russia, please stop getting weird with the history in order to justify fucked up modern nationalisms”. Agonizingly familiar. Great stuff, love to hear Milo guesting.
Will Rich or Nick ever return as former hosts or guests???
IIRC the reason Nick and Rich stopped appearing is because they’re active military and the show is big enough that the army would have to approve the content if they were to continue being on the show. Alas. 😔
Bah gawd that’s Subotai’s music!!!
“It’s the M O N G O L one” - more Milo pls!
the mongol ball game is probably played with someone's head in place of a rubber ball
Every single eastern european country fighting over the legacy of the Rus, meanwhile the Rus nobles were seemingly exclusively preoccupied with racism, hating their wives, and trying (unsuccessfully) to invent a single name except Mstislav Btw Mstislav means approximately "glory in revenge" which goes hard as fuck so I can't fault them too much for being called that
More Mongols please💕
People trust their uncles GRILLING?! If they're Boomers.... DON'T.
Bonus
more likely than you think!