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March 19, 2026

#274: Games, and Why We Play Them

First, enjoy an 8-minute tour of empire's end, directed by a bad comedian with no nose. Then: The United States of America, Considered as a Sadomasochistic Party Trick.

Marat/Sade, free, divided into chapters. This fictional Sade is often righter than Marat. Jacques Roux is righter than either.

If you'd like (and you'd better) to know more about Jacques Roux, a real priest who joined the Revolution and then was really clapped up in prison – because he wouldn't stop insisting that the point of a Revolution is to feed the fucking poor – and really killed himself awaiting execution, here, let Alan Rickman give you his last sermon.

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It's Eid right now, the major Muslim holiday that officially ends Ramadan fasting, and the children of Gaza aren't hoping for toys. They need clothes, since they were bombed out of their homes two and a half years ago and had to leave whatever they couldn't carry, and they medicine. Amjad's baby sister is still horribly ill, and because nobody in Palestine thought the genocide could go on this long, all the children are just barely emerging from their third straight winter with no winter clothes. Iran is, for the moment, beyond your grasp, but this is not; this is something you can do in minutes. Thank you for whatever you might be able to give.

Comments (39)

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Jamie Newman · March 30, 2026

Got to see Peter Brooks Marat/Sade live when i was 15. Life-changing. Was like being in Charentan.

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K · March 25, 2026

I should read Coldness and Cruelty by Deleuze sitting on my shelf. Sounds like he touches on Sade and Masoch and their relation to politics/law. This episode reminded me I should pick it up.

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Skillet Reddington · March 24, 2026

Citizen Sade killed me. Ahhhahahah

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Skillet Reddington · March 24, 2026

Macron is like France decided on its own homegrown 'Ambassador' synthsizing the modern western world citizen appeal with the well groomed Frenchman. Anyway, damn the last three centuries.

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Capital Knockers · March 23, 2026

Just listening to the beginning. Spam Castanets is some hilarious imagery from Scott Walker.

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Kawaii Leonard · March 22, 2026

I hope you know: 1) such episodes are high art 2) you’re officially a 3 letter initial guy, like JFK, CFK, PSH, MBS, and DLR

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MirrorOooMirror · March 24, 2026

MSJ made the greatest JFK series of all time. It’s been an endless ride through Dallas ever since!

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poblano pepper union · March 22, 2026

This episode really puts into context the films of that sick fuck Gaspar Noé and the way critics discussed his daring brilliance for depicting a woman being brutally raped

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Quinn · April 3, 2026

It’s art because the story is told backwards 🤓

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Brendan Garcia · March 21, 2026

de Sade being the (only?) guy liberated from the Bastille forms a very unfortunate part of his mythology

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Christopher Johnson · March 21, 2026

“They’re locking them up today. They’re throwing away the key. I wonder who it will be tomorrow, you or me”

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mainlining_gravy · March 21, 2026

The last ten odd minutes called to mind Voltaire’s Bastards by John Raulston Saul. It’s basically a history of how administrative perverts took over the world in the name of a divine logos. Control + expertise = reason AKA an administrative method. That old chestnut. There’s quite a few through lines to your show in that book, even if it isn’t as politically harmonious as Adorno & Horkheimer. Also, I don’t think I’ve commented on an episode before, but I’ve followed the show for years and it’s really important to me. Thanks for speaking for those of us that aren’t wordsmiths. I feel seen

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MirrorOooMirror · March 21, 2026

Speaking of Epsteinian characters and the French, what do you know about Roman Polanski? Maybe you have touched (unintentional) on the subject in past, but ever since O’Neil’s Chaos, and some of the stuff O’Neil has said in interviews (like the TA one) Ive wondered about Polanski’s “homemade movie”setup and if its all connected to the same thing. The thing, that one thing.

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Michael S. Judge · March 21, 2026

I haven't gone into much depth, largely because that "depth" "exists" in the work of dumb self-promoting liars, but Polanski was pretty clearly into a fucking grim porn underground, most-to-all of which (as presently known) seems to have involved some form of rape, particularly people raping Sharon Tate. He's way scarier, like way scarier, than "a movie director who drugged and molested a 13-year-old girl," which is fucking bad enough. (You ever notice how rarely anyone ends that description with "... at Jack Nicholson's house"?) It's cheap psychoanalysis, but I can't help imagining that someone who got through the Holocaust by pretending to be other people, some real, some not, would have a sharply magnified sense of what you can "achieve" by simply insisting, with a straight face, that something false is true, and something true is false. I mean he was best friends with Jerzy Kosínski, for fuck's sake, and the main reason nobody reads Kosínski now is that his Holocaust "memoir" THE PAINTED BIRD was either made up or taken from other people's lives, Kosínski himself didn't even write the whole thing, and at the time of its publication, he could barely speak English. The book is written in English. Over decades, it emerged that he had also lied about a thousand other things, including having "written" things that other people said or wrote to him, and the fact that his flamboyant bon vivant lifestyle may have been the product of CIA employment as a professional Polish anticommunist. Kosínski eventually responded by killing himself. Roman Polanski, a major notch above/below ol' Jerzy, is not gonna kill himself.

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This is Pharmacist · March 20, 2026

Bataille was always the guy I was most influenced as as a young 20 year old, pre reddit atheist existence. I think of him often but haven't read since then I remember him as way too drenched in sadness and actually a romantic to the point of Catharsis to be Sadistic.

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Michael S. Judge · March 20, 2026

His fiction always struck me as depressingly desperate to shock, but I remember some of his nonfiction being very good – THE ACCURSED SHARE, just the whole notion, and I am one of 9 people in history who's actually read EROTISM. I did it entirely while very, very drunk, so I don't remember much except that I thought it was good. There's a section in there which I considered adjoining to Adorno/Horkheimer here, and I still might, if I can find it; basically it's about the notion of sacrificial killing, the way the Enlightened West considers it "barbaric" and "beyond reason," when 1) we're still doing that shit, and 2) it was precisely NOT unreasoning for the cultures who practiced it. It was, within their cosmology, the eminently rational act of appeasing a god or force with the power to tear the world apart – in modern parlance, an act designed for the maintenance of social cohesion, in which the chaos "outside society" is focused upon and channeled into a creature you can actually kill. (In some societies, like pre-Columbian Mesoamerican ones, the sacrificial victim was notified far in advance, sometimes a year in advance, that he or she was going to die; it was considered a position of the greatest nobility and valor, because the victim would be dying to save everyone else; and between the victim's selection and his/her actual death, he/she often lived like royalty. You kill somebody to make the world hold together, and you honor that person in advance with your idea of a good afterlife, which is both enjoyable in itself and a constant reminder that the victim wasn't dying for nothing, he/she was dying precisely on behalf of the civilization capable of furnishing his/her present comfort and splendor. If nobody dies for the sake of maintaining a society, EVERYBODY dies, in much worse ways, when that society collapses.) It's orderly, regular murder in the name of preventing chaotic, unpredictable murder, and if you (the generaly "you") don't believe the USA has been engaged in that exact practice for 250 consecutive years – and doing it at a level the Aztecs would consider embarrassingly amateurish – I don't know what to tell you

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Madra na Móna · March 20, 2026

Patrick Magee also did a full album called Selections From The Marquis De Sade reading bits from his writing. Mostly worth it for a Magee's very bitchy reading of Sade's jeremiad letter to his wife from prison.

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Kamran Husain · March 20, 2026

business gay = frat boy = ommi ones

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idiot.wisdom · March 20, 2026

Was wondering how long it would take Houellebecq to get mentioned once the topic of today's episode was made clear and he managed to make an appearance just before the halfway point. I would only recommend reading him for the purpose of doing a sort of biopsy on the tumors growing on the limbic system of the "western world"

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Michael S. Judge · March 20, 2026

I actually think people should read a Houellebecq novel or two, just as a sort of psychic rectal thermometer for the West in the ’90s and early 2000s. He's a very rare (not always "good") kind of artist, the kind who's able to cut deep into End of History awfulness and document its geological strata, NOT because he's talented or smart or immune to period bigotries, but because he's a piece of shit in exactly the same way as the pieces of shit he writes about. Usually a vicious stupid person is too dumb for any comprehension of how and why he's vicious and stupid, but somehow Houellebecq does, I imagine partly because he DOES really hate post-Soviet global capitalism (but he'd make every possible effort to replace it with something worse), and partly because he is genuinely without shame. Which brings us back to Philippe Sollers: "That's great! Most French writers only PRETEND they can't feel shame."

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The former junkyard hoochie daddy · March 20, 2026

Trueanon filter

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Michael S. Judge · March 20, 2026

If you're talking about the audio, good ears. I'm fuckin' done with the fuckin' Teletronix LA-2A plugin last in the chain unless I'm making fake British TV from the ’60s. Pushes terrible bass and mid-lows in the human voice

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Anon22 · March 20, 2026

you've heard this probably; but you're thinking 1500's-1600's when you describe "guys in armor"; seven years war is the war George Washington started and then got first famous for (french and indian war was a theater of the seven years war), and was depicted in Barry Lyndon.. Swords Yes, Axes.. maybe? armor.. not outside of like heavy cavalry or guys in parade uniforms.. the flintlock had been in use since the English Civil War (1640's) at the very least as the doglock; there was a "Gorget" which "had been" or was directly descended from neck-armor; but it was ornamental and typically just a necklace that showed you were an officer or something

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Michael S. Judge · March 20, 2026

Not like full suit-of-armor shit, but there were still horseback guys wearing breastplates and little shoulder-chest pieces on their dominant arms and such. And there were thick leather versions of things like greaves, or some kind of fabric patterned in a way that would slow down the distribution of incoming force (that puffy diamond-weave you still see on kevlar vests sometimes) with 4 inches of padding behind it

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Laura · March 20, 2026

Great episode

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Shiv · March 20, 2026

“I know I’ve said shit is bad before on this show*—“ *Death is Just Around the Corner

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Shiv · March 20, 2026

Shout out to Business Gay Mindset! and Brother Judge

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Louie Van Patten · March 19, 2026

"Zercon" is one of the great artworks of our time. And my itunes playcount is at 69. Nice. WANTED: A LISPING, HOBBLING, NOSELESS RUNT PHONE IXIXIXIXI

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Evan · March 19, 2026

is R Crumb the artist everyone mistakes de Sade for?

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Michael S. Judge · March 20, 2026

In English, William Burroughs and J.G. Ballard, especially Ballard from ATROCITY EXHIBITION up to HIGH-RISE. Nobody who speaks English has read any Burroughs after NAKED LUNCH or any Ballard except the early sci-fi or the novels from CRASH onward, and you will not fucking believe what's on every page of THE ATROCITY EXHIBITION. In French, probably the early work of Pierre Guyotat, EDEN EDEN EDEN and TOMB FOR 500,000 SOLDIERS ... but I'm pretty sure Guyotat signed the 1977 Matzneff letter, and both of those books concern at least a fictionalized version of the two years he really spent as a French soldier in Algeria, 1960-62, trying to put down the War of Independence. If you read them, even without knowing that, you'll be hard-pressed to avoid a creeping suspicion of how Guyotat knew what we knew

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recovering.slothrop · March 19, 2026

In Dellilo's 'Ratner's Star' what starts out as a message from the stars, atracting our probing outwards, ended up pointing back through us the opposite way, into history. Walter Benjamin's angel back to back with this signal ass motherfucker. These characters through Billy's eyes are a delight. Have you read this one from Dellilo, Michael?

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Rob Dag · March 19, 2026

Woah Distant Star by Bolaño just clicked into place

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Ragna · March 19, 2026

I need to get on that after i finish 2666

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CT · March 19, 2026

Mike, thank you for introducing me to the world of Scott Walker. Don’t know how he never hit my radar. Have you heard the Irish band Lankum? If not, based on your love of Walkers music, I’d imagine you’d enjoy them as well.

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Evan · March 19, 2026

there's a really good, well considered breakdown of the album Bish Bosch that Hesse Deni (movie mindset) did with Evan Laffer (jokermen podcast) ... they did it as a one-off somewhere on the jokermen feed, iirc ... i thought it was excellent and it wouldn't be the worst place to start imo

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MRSAful Fate · March 19, 2026

4:45 was VERY metal. I guess he did some collaboration with Sunn 0))). Sick.

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Hugh Jazz · March 19, 2026

Elon dressing up like de Sade for Halloween makes so much more sense now

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Byron’s Glowing Filament · March 19, 2026

I came to this pod originally because GR was my favorite novel and slowly began to realize that your taste in literature was pretty much my taste. Musically, however, I was pretty fucking shit tier. I think your recommendations for music have opened my fucking brain like nothing else has… listening to every Bowie album a dozen times or more, D’Angelo, Smile, Eliot Smith, Tom Waits, Father John Misty, Pink Floyd’s The Wall, etc… all of these have become some of my all time favorite music. All that to say, Scott Walker too has become one of my favorites and upon listening to his later stuff starting a few months ago, I feel like my brain was torn open again. From finding the Epizootics video to the album he did with that metal band (Sun???) and really just every song on his last 4-5 albums… holy fucking shit that man had some esoteric knowledge and access to a realm I did not know existed. An absolute fucking genius. Haven’t finished this episode yet but I would love if you did some episodes on Walker’s late work like you’ve done for Bowie.

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Michael S. Judge · March 21, 2026

He's hard to talk about, because he's one of the very few great musicians who started with words and then "scored" them, rather than writing songs as such, so it's kind of all there in the lyrics – except the question of WHAT is all there, which can take years to begin figuring out, and there are plenty of cases in which I still don't know. I'll give you a good one, though: "Clara" on THE DRIFT is about Clara Petacci, Mussolini's mistress, right? "Sleepwalker's Woman," CLIMATE OF HUNTER. Adolf Hitler, after successfully remilitarizing the Rheinland in 1936: "I go the way that Providence dictates with the assurance of a sleepwalker." He was sometimes referred to by Nazis, in a complimentary sense, as The Sleepwalker, the man who cannot explain or even predict himself but who acts with an unerring grasp of Destiny. "Sleepwalker's Woman" is about Eva Braun, and I think particularly Eva Braun in the Führerbunker at the end, because "As if all that replaced us / Ends it again / As if all that replaced us / Ends" is not only a Fourth Reich manifesto, or a declaration that this end is THE end, that this is Götterdämmerung, and whatever follows can live only in the wasteland of pseudo-history, in which Heaven and the Gods have already been destroyed – I believe it also refers to what Hitler said, according to his valet Heinz Linge, right before killing himself: "For the sake of The One who is still to come."