D&D Court: Froghemoth v. Milk

I love that Adam Schiff crit on, of all things, an investigation check. Lol

For the timeout bard. Every one he leaves goes thru a Rocky montage to catch up and shows up 2 levels above with a Vendetta specific to player

I would write a nemesis lightfoot halfling with the same abilities as the PC from their backstory, who is riding on an ogre or other massive creature/construct. “All of you and your friends have run and hidden from me (alluding to NPCs friends he has killed), how many of your friends do I need to tell him to kill before I can get to you?”

It’s no butt and that’s a no brainer

44:40 "I use my slow fall ability" "FUCK"

I have a rogue that is a light foot halfling and she’s always using our beefy dwarf cleric and Dragonborn paladins as cover, mostly to hide. A lot of times I just can’t hit her at all and it’s still very fun because I have been putting them against pretty strong people and it’s fun to let people who build tanks play their character actually tanking most the damage. (120 hp for paladin and 45 for rouge, some of my monsters would maybe kill her in one turn so this is much better lol)

I truly don't understand their problem with the grappling thing. this is just weird to listen to. it sounds like utterly new players saying they think something is broken just cause they've never heard of it. granted the mounted combat rules suck and are near non existent also it boggles the mind that they've been playing DnD for so long and that they didn't treat the hiding thing as a shut case IMMEDIATELY. You're not hidden if you're visible, hiding behind a larger ally ends the moment an enemy changes their perspective at all, it doesn't require a check. easy peasy. what's more total cover is a two way street. all in all it doesn't even matter, why would you try to hit the halfling if there's a viable target in front of the halfling? presumably the enemies are trying to kill all the PCs, and splitting damage leads to slower kills so it's not even optimal for them to target the halfling at the same time as the other PCs

First case with the justices dismissing a different ttrpg system based on one uninformed player's experience has made me question my faith in the legal system System is definitely Pendragon btw and honestly i find it odd that a player in current year wouldnt give a cursory goog to look at the mechanics

I haven’t seen any comments yet but Pendragon RPG seems like the first game they were talking about

That random guy accidentally called the NBA finals

"Total cover" doesn't mean that nobody on the battlefield can hit you. If I'm behind a wall, I have total cover from enemies *on the other side of the wall*. It's specific to each enemy

If a Goliath bard has a hasted steed they can absolutely put them in timeout, and there are absolutely rules for it. You use you action to grapple, and if that is successful you can pick up the person. A Goliath would be able to carry most creatures without any I’ll effects in it’s speed. You then use half of your movement to mount your steed, 250 feet of your mounts movement, a free action to drop the grappled person to the ground, another 250 feet back to the fight, and you still have 40 feet of your steeds movement, a bonus action to give a bardic inspiration, and the other half of your personal movement to get back off of your steed. It all checks out to me.

For the roll 20 roller person: I had the same issue but on foundry. If you are using the physics simulation, it's buggy and only clusters around a few roles because it simulates the random roll starting from the same point. We turned off the physical roller simulation and the results became normal again

On the lightfoot halfling case, I think RAI is that a LF halfling can use another creature as an terrain/obstruction that allows them to take the hide action, deferring to the hide action rules

I wonder if someone come up with a mechanics for lassoing people and dragging them off

Low blow coming at the Blue Jackets haha totally did not expect to hear them mentioned in a dungeon court. But we do suck.

What are the odds of rolling a one seven times in 11 rolls? Around .000021%. If you prefer odds to probability, we're talking a 21/100,000,000 longshot. Put even simpler, you're looking at about a 1 in 5,000,000 chance of this happening.

Suggested solution for the “Timeout Bard” The bard, while mounted, can make a grappling check on someone. On a regular success, the bard successfully grabs the person with the grapple, and are able to drag them up to half speed. (dragging someone while riding a horse). On a fail, the enemy is able to avoid being grabbed by the mounted bard. On a critical success, the bard catches the enemy off guard and is able to pull them onto the side of their horse, and can then zip zip 500 feet away with haste or whatever and put them in timeout. Thoughts? :)

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I feel that person who rolled 7 nay 1s, as someone who consistently rolls low on roll over systems and rolls high on roll under systems

For the time out Bard, if he has haste that's 60 ft of movement for those math people

12 rolls in 2 sessions? Did nobody else think that was crazy low?

If everyone is aging in the campaign, wouldn't the big bads also age? And in turn wouldn't this add pressure to facing them in a timely manner before they too get too old?

Why would you just do wine or beer for the jug? Alcohol is the answer!

i swear every dungeon court theres someone whos like "i pushed something crazy and my dm got upset, was i actually....wrong?" YES YOU MANIACS

(Sorry in advance for the long read! LOL) I have pretty much this exact lightfoot halfling build! Murph would hate my character, probably. She's a pastel pink kobold (my beautiful, wonderful DM let me use halfling stats) named Jingle Pink Hee Hee. Jingle Pink is an escaped illegal exotic pet with a silenced bell collar and a gremlin voice. We leaned hard into roleplaying rehabilitating this feral monster into society as her world expanded exponentially past the carelessly cracked-open window of her family's home. (She couldn't remember what they called her after starving on the streets for so long, so she came up with Jingle Pink Hee Hee herself.) The campaign was airship pirate themed, so I took the thief rogue class to make full use of second-story work, scampering around on the rigging and manipulating objects to my advantage. My partner was a prim and proper lady Goliath paladin named Tiffany Locke. Jingle would climb up and around her to hide during battle and dish out mindblowingly powerful sneak attacks with the little dagger she carries in her mouth. My DM had no problem dealing with Jingle. Whenever I hid I rolled stealth against the passive perception of enemies, so it didn't always work. Also, Jingle was exceeding fragile, so even with Uncanny Dodge any attack that landed made a big impact. She had to be right in the middle of battle for this strategy to work. Depending on the individual enemy, they might take an action to look for her, use AoE spells to hit her, knock Tiffany prone or grapple her ("kill your friends!"), etc. Fights were usually for some ulterior purpose rather than just for the sake of having battles in DnD, so sometimes Jingle would need to use her bonus action to problem solve with Cunning Hands instead of hiding in order to win the day. Also, Jingle was the best scout in the group, so when we explored the mainland she was usually the one to scout ahead. She's really sneaky, so the risk was worth it to us, but she'd been ambushed more than once while out on her own and had to run away or risk dying. Jingle was probably the most fun I've ever had playing battles because her build inherently tied itself to roleplaying and cooperation. She's a blast for everyone, including the DM! So all in all this build isn't that frustrating. For example, currently, I'm playing a sorcerer who IMHO is worse because he spams buffs and lightning from a distance. He gets hit way less than Jingle ever did, and once he reaches level 14 and gets his dragon wings, he'll be so annoying. (As long as he doesn't keep losing his cool and going for unarmed strikes that mechanically do literally zero damage. LOL)

Roll20 digital dice are crazy - I also average an insane amount of nat ones using it. In two sessions once I got 6 in the first session, 4 in the second, but I changed the roll speed and it helped!

😂 how did Columbus Blue Jackets get involved. We've been... Ok. 😂

The grapple bard should invest in a lasso and go full RDR cowboy. Don’t need to worry about a grapple check if you can just rope em up from range.

As a random person on the internet, RAW your mount would probably pull you and the grappled creature apart, like how a thunderwave can pull grappled creatures apart.

"You can burn this rug to cast revivify" incredible as always!

I’d check the Roll20 settings. We had the opposite problem for a few sessions and it turned out there was a way to set it to autocrit. I don’t remember how or how we fixed it.

Just saying, Alberto the frog in Bod loves milkshakes

So, during the discussion of the Froghemoth, Murph said something that got me thinking. His reasoning for Bullywugs canonically having teeth is that they have a Bite attack. But, the Bullywug's Bite attack deals bludgeoning damage, whereas something like a wolf's Bite attack does piercing. It seems more likely to me that a Bullywug's 'Bite' attack isn't it taking a chomp out of you, but trying to swallow you.

Homie just wanted to flight with his friends.

I mostly agree but there was this one nugget when they read that PARTIAL cover can be granted from a creature . partial cover with no stealth roll. Stealth roll for more cover if they have hide as a bonus action otherwise that's their action to use a meat shield

Does it mean cover in the sense of hiding and not cover as in protection

I gotta say, I'm lovin' the uptick of hockey talk in NADDPOD content. It's like adding an almond to an M&M.

Cover is directional, so you can have cover from one creature and not from others, or different values of cover simultaneously. You have to interpret cover from the perspective of the creature trying to make the attack. If your target was on the other side of a wall that completely obscured their body, that would be total cover. But you could put a fireball off to the side of the wall and still catch them. If you were on the same side of the wall as that creature, no cover. Emily's spot on in her interpretation--the halfling can get total cover behind their friends, but only to creatures that aren't able to see around the friend. A flying enemy could fly above or really any enemy could literally just walk around them.

Dispel magic doesn’t work on find steed, greater steed and familiar

Regarding the Timeout Bard: Murph was kind of on the right track, but he did indeed get lost in the math. Spending 10ft of movement to grapple and move the enemy onto the horse would leave the Bard with 20ft. Since mounting is half of his movement (15ft), he will still have 5ft remaining on that turn. That being said though, I would probably rule that the Bard should at least roll the grapple checks with disadvantage because wrestling a humanoid while mounting/riding a horse is crazy 😂

For the rug one, I’d hype them up like “yeah checking under the rug and see no trap door because it’s OBVIOUS” but then I’d do something like because they are on their knees looking you catch a glint of something that you missed while standing.

They all allow 2 gallons of mayonnaise

Trying to use milk is so funny because there are 3 different kinds of alchemy jugs with myriad options and none have milk. They do all allow you to summon 2 gallons of vinegar though. One has boiling hot tea, another has literal poison

What a wonderful birthday present to be ordered to a lifetime sentence of crafting milkshakes for froghemoths! Thank you Justices for taking my case, and I humbly accept your delicious punishment 😌

Want to table top rugrats. Or BOSS BABY. Try babies and broadswords, and it’s expansion crawl of Cthulhu.

Could be wrong, but I think the chance of rolling 7 nat 1’s across 12 rolls is .000048%. Crazy unlikely That’s taking each dice roll as a bernoulli trial with p = 0.05 (correct me if that doesn’t work)

RE: FIRST CASE — the ruling hinged on the heir mechanic supposedly being a surprise, but the submitter said up front that they had been ignoring the mechanic. Meaning they already knew about it, they just didn't bother to actually pay any attention to it.

Net of Brooklyn criminally underrated joke

As a Utahn, you can have the jazz, Emily. I’m just honored you want them 😂

I would listen to 2 hours of Murph describing the directions from which a person in total covered cannot be hit

I don’t have a fun slideshow (maybe one day when I have time) buuuut we all know Florida is a lawless land and the honorable justices should bring down the war hammer of justice and the blessing of dice Christ to the sunshine state. Also as I am obviously speaking for the whole state, we should make Jake a practicing justice in the whole state not just a city like Boston. This is my one wish. Thank you for you time

Re: time-out Bard, as soon as they drop the creature off and head back to battle, that creature gets an attack of opportunity and if they hit the Bard they force a concentration check to keep up haste. If they lose concentration both the Bard and the mount miss their turn as their haste ends. It'd at least make them think about the risks in the future.

Personally, I would rule that even 3/4 cover for hiding behind someone’s legs is GENEROUS.

Thank you for taking my case! If you're curious, we're playing One Ring, an officially licensed TTRPG for the Lord of the Rings franchise. So if I had played an elf (who never ages) or a dwarf (who lives for hundreds of years), the aging mechanic would not be a big deal. But I didn't. I chose to be a human, who went from a healthy adventurous 28 to a haggard 40 in the blink of an eye.

For the grappling while mounted rules, since the player is a Barbarian, they have Proficiency with nets and you can absolutely catch someone with a net, drag them hundreds of feet and abandon them. It's just a Dex Save on the NPC's part and if it's a problem with a BBEG, they got Legendary Resistances hopefully. If not, it's time out time

So sad i missed the show at the Wilbur, feels to me like the perfect venue for dnd court lol. Love dnd court, you each and every one is just a banger lol

Who's gonna tell Murph that real-life frogs also have teeth?

Personally, love the aging mechanic. Adds a level of difficulty and a chance to play lots of different kinds of characters. It's a roguelike! Thats dope!

Regarding the rug question, I actually did set up a room where they had to roll on damn near everything. But in my defense they were investigating a crime scene and I built the encounter as a point and click adventure game where they rolled a base investigation check and then clicked on various areas of the map(a Japanese highschool lab background I believe I took from a dating sim) where I had certain flags set up for what they found based off their investigation. It is doable to have a "check for every specific area" but it really should be used sparingly and in those situations. Also it led me to build a murder mystery party session in another game where you're basically playing a Mashup of Clue and Werewolf.

For the steed - I would make two roles - if on the horse then the grapple is at disadvantage and then a strength check (dc determined by creature) or if not on the horse then normal grapple but strength check at disadvantage as you are trying to mount while holding someone. Make the dc hard and tell them before the role lol.

If the DM for the total cover case happens to see this a piece of advice would be to give some enemies tremorsence! That way your enemies can still sense their presence even behind total cover.

Also mechanically Lightfoot can use people to make a hide check, and creatures are only listed under the types of cover as adding half cover. The Lightfoot description does add some confusion because the description says using people as cover

I know 3.5 has some aging mechanics in RAW, but a year every few sessions seems like a lot personally, especially compared to my group that's been stuck in the same 3 days in game for over 6 months IRL. The lineage idea could be interesting in a Jojo's Bizarre Adventure way

I don't think full cover is justified for standing between someone's legs. Half or three quarters are also options, afterall.

I was the DM for the froghemoth vs milk 😅 To add some minor clarification. I believe I let the alchemist summon milk instead of beer from their alchemy jug since the goblin alchemist was just baby. She didn’t drink beer. But I feel validated for Murph immediately agreeing with me lol. If it was a beast like a giant frog I’d reward that knowledge and probably allow it since it was just a oneshot. But since the froghemoth is a monstrosity I determined it wouldn’t have the same limitations as a frog’s digestive system. Especially since they tend to eat everything! Was real fun recognizing the title. A real good episode 👌 (Dani if you see this I’m sorry about your punishment, but I’ll also take a strawberry milkshake while you’re at it.)

I play a 380 year old gnome bard who has "aging mechanics," but it was decided between the DM and myself. It only happens with every level up, such as they can't take a physical ASI or feat, and their HP can be impacted if they don't work to prevent it. Honestly it was great because they became a more and more powerful spellcaster/face of the party while the other characters worked to protect them. But that was 100% my choice.

Total cover question: basically the same as invisibility. Can't be targeted directly but you can attack the space they are in at disadvantage.

With the mounted Bard I do think it was lost for the movement argument that the players movement would *also* be doubled because the greater Steed is presumably hasted because the rider is hasted "While mounted on it, you can make any spell you cast that targets only you also target the mount" which also gives them haste as well. Caldwell was brushed off bringing up that it was a goliath but they do actually have a mechanical trait that counts them as one size larger for pulling and lifting so that also feels pretty relevant.

I find it suspicious that the player didn't mention the name of the aging\heir game system. When playing new systems, I've seen so many players rely 100% on the DM, even ignoring the player specific materials. Then they get surprised by some core mechanic and blame the DM. GIVE US THE NAME YOU COWARD!

Anyone know the game with this aging and finding an heir mechanic?

Can someone send me a link to hag? I wanna play this game

Perfect thank u! I am in hospital rn and this helps a lot!!

Bro its so early. You good? 😂

We have been blessed

Murph actually posted the sode early for the first time ever