Short Rest: C3 Ep. 24: Serpent Knight

4 years too late: sodium citrate helps cheese and water combine and emulsify and is often a key ingredient in things like nacho cheese, I think it’d make cheese a texture that is injectable.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, I love these idiots and I say that lovingly

Listening in 2026 thinking just fill bucatini with a syringe full of cheese

Two years late, not a herpetologist but a wildlife ecologist, snakes still use nostrils to do some smelling but their main function is breathing

I hope there a ln apostrophe in you’re. So it’s not “when you’re in your kin.”

Every time I listen to this I think about sending uncooked bucatini noodles to the PO Box and have to grit my teeth and stop myself

I love when you can finally figure out what the episode art is about

Big thanks to papa John's, corn nuts, olive garden, m&ms, and of course, old spaghetti factory for sponsoring this episode

I'm sorry Murph, but she definitely implied it 😆

bucatini

I know they will NEVER see this but there was a limited time “buy one take one” from Olive garden in like 2021 and they had stuffed fettuccine Alfredo noodles. They were cold ones you take home and reheat but the sauce was separate. I used to eat them like long floppy stuffed breadsticks and dipped them in the sauce. I miss this SO MUCH and I’m SO MAD they did away with it.

I'm a herpetologist (my specialties are snakes and salamanders) and snakes use their nostrils for breathing only, so the serpent queen can't smell the gunpowder from her nose, but the grenades definitely got smoke in her lungs.

listening in 2025 screaming “MANICOTTI!” so aggressively my NY accent pops out for the first time in 13 years

This is ridiculous, everyone knows Joey is the Italian friend.

In Syracuse NY there’s a Spaghetti Warehouse and a Pastabilities both are pasta restaurant

Corn Stan here: Corn Silk is the sexual organ of Corn that catches Corn pollen

Sweet corn is the closest a vegetable can come to being candy.

Bucatini!

SCREAMING bucatini for a solid 5 minutes at my phone

36:20 in and Murphy says “we have to talk about the episode”. Y’all are too much.

Just came across someone on Reddit who was experimenting with filling bucatini with cheese and I had to come back to this 😂

Perciatelli

This is why y'all have got to watch Food Wars because Takumi Aldini did a cheese stuffed fettucine noodle for the curry challenge.

By far my favourite short rest of all time.

the extended pasta shenanigan bit is EXACTLY the content im subscribed for. those several minutes alone are worth every goddamn penny

Their ability to talk about anything else other than the episode is just mind blowing

I’m CRYINGGGG listening to this

Zoos do kinda still suck. 99% of the animal’s kept there will never see the wilderness. Sadly

This pasta debate killed me. Worth the patreon subscription all on its own.

Sometimes Murph gets big Nick Miller energy and it rules

normally you guys' shenanigans are funny but like... this whole pasta ordeal is honestly fucking wild...

I remember having a stuffed spaghetti type thing at olive garden or carrabbas a long time ago! It was very strange and didn't work well, so it wasn't on their menu for long!

Candele lunghe!

Am I the only one who thinks they should start a corn restaurant called The Ol' Cobb Factory?

Manicotti was one of my favorite dishes during Easter because we observed Lent

A thin vein Murph. It’s not that hard

I feel like this sort of process (https://youtu.be/2fV4K57Zu04) could work, but definitely not with gluten-free pasta. Sorry Emily :(

There is gonna be a cockatrice/ tarrasque I’m calling it now

The old spaghetti factor is a louisvile staple. Been there dozens of times. Food is alright but I always thought as a kid that it was decorated like the inside of the titanic lmfao

those pastas are too thick murph too thick

BUCATINI! it's like spaghetti that's hollow!

As a person who makes fresh bread and pasta and I will make cheese infused pasta and send a picture to them

Bucatini stuffed with cheese

As someone who found Brando Sando last year and demolished Mistborn, Elantris, Warbreaker and now the Stormlight archives. I got goosebumps hearing Emily say she’s listening to Mistborn! Enjoy the sanderlanche!

It’s not good don’t go thete 100% not worth

IVE WORKED AT THE OLD SPAGHETTI FACTORY 😂😂

~~~ SNAKE NOSTRIL ANSWERS!! ~~~ My friend is an amateur herpetologist (or as she says, "a person whose autistic special interest is animals"). So I asked her about snake nostrils. She says: "They're not really nostrils, they're heat sensors. They can literally sense when there's something warm near them, and it's bedcause of their not-nostrils. "If you look at a snake, it looks like they have several 'nostrils' on the sides of their face." According to google, these things are called "pit organs". My oldest daughter points out: In Rango, Rattlesnake Jake had those divots in the shape of a mustache.

this is the best fucking podcast

If you are looking for a cool zoo with cool herpatologists, check out the Audubon Zoo in New Orleans. My friend Mallory can answer any of y'all's questions. I think she sent some answers to the Naddpod Insta about the questions in this episode.

Murph's insistence on manicotti almost killed me from laughter. Glad to see I wasn't the only one yelling "Bucatini!" at a podcast

If Caldwell needs another bad zoo to visit tell him to hit up Tregembo Animal Park in Wilmington on the way down to Georgia this weekend all the monkeys look like they smoke cigarettes

Episode ended right as my flight landed - awesome

The gaslight was so thick, we felt it Murph.

At least the MN zoo is big on conservation takes only animals that couldn't survive out of captivity and does tons of research and conservation work including reintroduction of endangered species. My girlfriend used to work there

I also go to the zoo whenever I can but I don’t have kids as an excuse :(

Mistborn series is good!

Bucatini is what you want. Not sure how you'll get the cheese in there, but it's bucatini.

“I’m not in the pockets of big spaghetti”

hold on hold on y’all HAVE to go to the spaghetti factory tho, it’s fucking glorious 😩 three course meals! A scoop of spumoni! Cozy sofa chairs!!

I'm laughing so hard trying to imagine stuffing bucatini 🤣

Not wormy, but delicious... cannelloni. Slightly thinner than manicotti. But yeah ya can't twirl that. The chaos energy here is wild. <3

@Jake, Emily, and Caldwell, you are describing Bucatini Alfredo!

"When you're in your kin..." I need to know how that phrase ends

This was actually insane to listen to because I run the kitchen at one of the Old Spaghetti Factory’s in Canada and you guys make the same joke we do at the restaurant about the name!

I work at a zoo, holla if you guys are ever in Wisconsin and want to behind the scenes tour. I'd love to educate you on snakes lol

The way that the pasta dish went from stuffed crust as pasta to angel hair with cheese veins to gaslight Murph was chefs kiss.

I’ve been to the old spaghetti factory once when I was a kid for a birthday party and all I remember is the brick walls

Bucatini Alfredo!!!! It’s a long hollow noodles so all of your cheese sauce will go inside! And I guess you could inject it with cheese too, you absolute monsters

Herpetologist here! I study snake and lizard evolution. Snake nostrils are just for breathing. Aquatic snakes use them to breathe without coming out of the water, and most snakes aren’t really mouth-breathers unless they’re actively eating. I understand if y’all want to hold out for Ross Schwimmer though.

I’m a zookeeper and I’ve only worked with 3 animals that came from the wild that wasn’t a rescue or confiscation from a wildlife trafficker in my 12 years working in a zoo/aquarium. Almost all animals in zoos were born and raised in zoo or rescued one way or another. Also not a herpetologist but snakes can breath through their nostrils. It’s sinuses are similar to other animal. The way it smells with it’s tongue is through a thing called a Jacobson’s organ which cats have also!

Bucatini is hollow spaghetti noodles - someone just needs to perfect how to stuff it with cheese.

I love seeing the title art and then waiting for it to be brought up in the ep. 🤣

If anyone needs regular and wholesome pasta content in their life, I highly recommend the Pasta Grannies instagram

It’s gotta pass the twirl test, Murph

My high school academic league team used to do all of our year-end banquets at the Old Spaghetti Factory in San Marcos, CA. It was one of the happiest days of the school year for me, especially the year we won the San Diego County championship! I remember the food being OK but we got the big banquet room in the back and that was always really nice.

The Italians are coming for all of you

This SR is absolutely off the rails and I'm here for it. Also, next time you're in NorCal, come to San Jose. We have an Old Spaghetti Factory and it's pretty good.

Molten cheese filled Starspawn

As someone who is harvesting corn while listening to this. I feel attacked by the phrase “what is corn silk”… but i will now call it corn pubes and not explain it to anyone

Long ziti is a thing.

My boyfriend’s cousin is a phlebotomist whose hobby is cooking and is a great chef, and is also dating an Italian (lives in Italy.) I can ask him if your request for this type of pasta is possible LOL

I was questioning Murph's inner Jersey when he said he liked Papa John's but then he had such a strong stance on pasta that he won me back

Anyone else find the colour of the pasta sauce unsettling?

no but i get murph's point, why would you want filled pasta so thin it barely has any filling just give me lots of cheese in thick pasta

@Emily, you want Bucatini Alfredo

Are they talking about bucatini?

Murph I am so sorry

Manicotti mon frer

Guys what is this chaos of a short rest I LOVE IT

FYI, there is a pic with Emily having Corn Nuts for teeth on her Insta.

Em, the idea of electricity is kinda boring so lean into lightning, which is badass.

I think stuffed spaghetti broke Murphy’s brain.

We need a fancast of Glen from the 2crew, i cant quite picture him

Sorry to be a weeb but they did cheese filled fettuccine noodles in season 1 of Food Wars. Like almost exactly what you guys are describing but with a flat noodle

I honestly think if you made a ricotta mixture and pushed it through bucatini with like a long food syringe that this would work

Is it bad how much I love it when they gaslight murph?

Yall are absolutely unhinged. I had to stop my workout because I was laughing so hard at the shouting match over pasta.

Emily, take silvery barbs, it's such a solid reaction.

Bucatini!!!!!!!

Not only have I BEEN to the Old Spaghetti Factory, I'm part of the membership club and they just emailed me a coupon for free pasta for my birthday

manicotti? more like mana-not-ti, 'cause it's NOT what these taste innovators are looking for

I’m going to be in Boston for the live show and I’m expecting some fantastical pasta dishes! Also, I’m a skilled phlebotomists and my wife a chef, let’s talk shop.

ITS BUCATINI AND YOU SHOULDNT TRUST ME

In Ohio, we have the Olde Spaghetti Warehouse, which upon listening to the episode I realized was infinitely worse than the Old Spaghetti Factory.

Me screaming mancotti

Just really quickly. I grew up in Sacramento where the Old Spaghetti Factory is an extremely big deal. It is THE local for end-of-season soccer dinners, and big school events. The pasta mizithra is great and also if you order an Italian soda you get to keep the glass. I live in Virginia now and still have old spaghetti factory glasses. Also the one in downtown Sac has a cable car in the restaurant that you can be seated in. The Old Spaghetti Factory rules and i will be hearing no slander

Literally reading that same Mistborn book r/n, the simulation is leaking...

So I just started driving to work and pressed play where I'd left off just in time for Murph to start screaming about manicotti. Chefs kisses, bellissimo!

I have been to the old spaghetti factory multiple times. It is a good amount of food for not a lot of money. The bread is amazing and I’m addicted to it even though it’s sourdough and I don’t like sourdough bread. I actually took my prom date when I was in high school to old spaghetti factory, the flagship one in Portland, for dinner lol

I've never seen the dish in person but there is an episode of Food Wars! where one of the characters makes cheese stuffed fettuccine.

Love the simultaneous yeahs when emily says the smell of rain is a beautiful concept

I love how murph is trying to defend himself with invoking other "jumping onto the belly of the beast" stories as if a) they did not jump into her Mouth and not her belly b) he doesn't know who his players are cause there was plenty of goofy ass 'gotta get in this thing's mouth' in c1

that is RIGATONI

Not a herpetologist but don't snakes breathe through their nostrils?

Cannelloni gang rise up

Murph is talking about the husk. While the silk is the tassel, silk like material that comes out the top of corn.

when you're here, you're family: its called being gay (shocked no one else has commented this yet)

This is a naddpod classic the crew being so off topic, Emily, Caldwell and Jake gaslighting murph, and Murph losing his mind…. *The old spaghetti factory chef’s kiss*

Bucatini is the noodle you are searching for. If you ever come to Tulsa, OK, a restaurant called Lowood has great bucatini

I’m pretty sure fellow headgum pod caster Ian Karmel worked at the old spaghetti factory

MISTBORN IS THE BEST FANTASY SERIES EVER, BRANDON SANDERSON IA THE GOAT. Also read his Young Adult series “alacatraz versus the evil librarian” quick read very fun

Okay, straight up this SR sent me into a spiral about the Old Spaghetti Factory. Grew up near Victoria, BC and thought that was a Canadian thing. Shook like Shawn Desman to find out that they’re in the States, and turned my whole world upside down to find out it started in freaking Portland. Also you’re thinking of Buccatini, it’s basically just spaghetti with a hole in the middle.

Caldwell is right, right? Bacatini, find an alfredo recipe then take the noodles out and transfer it into a red sauce if that's what Emily was thinking?

Getting big “bobs burgers” vibes from this episode specifically, with murph as bob, Emily as Louise, Caldwell as gene, and josh(? I think that’s his name?) as Tina

I used to work at an Old Spaghetti Factory, don’t work there. They only gave me 3 hour shifts lol

This makes me what a compilation of Murph yelling and getting gaslit by the rest of the 2 crew

I thought this was supposed to be relaxed murph is the one that got stressed

I worked at Olive Garden for too long. They would do a stuffed pasta special where they basically made stuffed fettuccini pasta! Definitely long and wormy, surprisingly good too. When you’re in, you’re kin!

My favorite episodes are when murph is screaming reason and everyone is gaslighting him w absurdity

Fried spaghetti ball

Thank God for Caldwell making me feel normal for needing to say names of buildings as I drive by

Are the players level 8 now?

Love how off the rails this soad was

I still remember the radio jingle for The Old Spaghetti Factory in Toronto, Canada...

My mom loves old spaghetti factory

“We’re not talking about reality, we are talking about possibilities” 😂😂

My name is Ross Schwimmer and I'm a herpetologist who eats bucatini that I individually stuff with cheese every night

Beginning of the episode reminded of a small chain restaurant in Ohio called "The Spaghetti Warehouse"

"Innoculate your bucatini" one of the great short rest closing lines

From extreme highs to extreme lows; Murph finally having a NPC the others cannot make fun of, to absolutely loosing his shit about cheese filled spaghetti 😂😂😂 This is the content I'm here for!

OMG EMILY LIKES SANDERSON

i think the best of both worlds is long ziti filled with manacotti filling

Canneloni guys

Oh lord… I haven’t hit play yet but the thumbnail is a red flag 😅

Too much pasta, not enough Bahumia.

The Old Spaghetti Factory in Vancouver has an old tram car that they just plopped down in the middle of their restaurant and put some annoyingly small tables in. It’s wild

not me on my couch saying “it’s cannelloni!!!” mid ep

This was unhinged and I love every second of it

Im not quite a chef phlebotomist, but im pretty dang close! Have a culinary degree, worked in/ran kitchens for 10 years. But when my job closed during covid, my friend helped me get hired for a very well known Testing / diagnostics center where i take the samples that phlebotemists get, and code / run the tests. So i feel im qualified enough for needling some cheese into pasta!!!

I have never related to Murph more in my whole life than during the pasta debate

wild energy I loved it now I want bucatini

I remember a certain goblin going up a particular orifice within a corn cutie. Also, It's corn: https://youtu.be/_caMQpiwiaU

I was listening and Caldwell brought up bucatini as I was typing a comment suggesting bucatini lmao

I've never seen a new Old Spaghetti Factory open up so at least there is that

shoulda hit up the ol pasketti in Vancouver - it's famously haunted!

The pasta argument is the funniest fucking thing I’ve ever heard

I am happy to be Kin!

Maybe you could like laminate sheets of pasta with sheets of a cheese before running it through a spaghetti maker... thing. The fuck are those called?

What is this now?

Manicotti?

Ohmygawd I want stuffed shells now

The old spaghetti factory currently has me in tears

Stuffed shells oh hell yeah baby

Is that the legendary mayo filled cannoli

This last episode got me through a rough day at work so thanks guys 👍