Mixed Bag of Holding: Equilibrium
The View Crew attempts to finish out No Suck Summer strong by watching the 2002 Christian Bale vehicle "Equilibrium". Will they be able to keep their emotions in check? Or is this viewing doomed to trigger a sense offense? Listen on to find out!
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Sound Mixing and Editing by Trevor Lyon
Comments (109)
Have y'all watched Wanted? If not you should Mixed Bag Wanted.
Dragon ball evolution or bust
I'm not sure if I have terrible taste or not, but I kind of think it would be fucking hilarious for them to revisit a 5 year old bit and attempt to rewatch Water World for a mixed bag
Spoiler alert: My favourite Sean Bean early exit is in the movie Ronin. He doesn't die he just gets fired from the team in act 1 and his character never comes back. Even when he doesn't die he still can't make it to the end of a movie. Poor Bean just can't make it to final credits.
Huh, well, I like this movie. Gun Kung fu is rad.
Initially listened to this with my three-year-old daughter. Listened to Fast Car this morning, and she very solemnly said “This song makes me cry every time.”
We watched this in my junior year English class after we read Brave New World and 1984, and my friends and I became obsessed with gun kata for the rest of the year.
IMO Ultraviolet with Milla is a better movie. Milla is badass. (I have this on dvd also)
This is an incredible film that we had to watch in my 9th grade English class back in the day 😂
I’ve listened to the band since 8 Bit Book Club. And these silly goofballs will defend valerian and the city of a thousand planets, Dragon Ball Z and WWE and tons of dumb shit that they grew up with. I love em but their views on great media is not the best I’ve ever heard.
I really like no suck summer
I watched this in school after reading Fahrenheit 451 as its a vague rip off with the censorship and policing force that hunts for people breaking that censorship
View crew needs to watch Strange Days at some point.
Glad I never heard of this movie. Sounds like a sad ripoff of Fahrenheit 451
Hey. Watch your mouth. In this house Tetragrammaton is a four letter word.
Im so ready for the view crew to watch the new live action Flintstones coming out
YES! Give us that equilibrium gun cleric campaign! I want it!
Do not watch the Milla Jollovich Movie, Ultraviolet, if you are attempting to have an extended No Suck Summer. With the benefit of 20 more years I might be able to laugh at the absurdity, but it was actively painful at the time. Definitely watch it and suffer, just don't go in expecting the director to have firmly found his footing and exceed his prior work like I did
I need to see a Gunkata cleric 😂
This came out while I was in college. We drove to another state to see it, had a great time. My tire blew on the way back. Made it to the station, loaded on the spare, filled it up...but it was truck stop air filler and it filled way to fast and exploded that tire, scared the everloving fuck out of us. Had to call a guy from film class that was part of my short film project to get us. And that dude has been my best friend for over 20 years. Anyway, gunkata rules and I'm glad for the weird memory of seeing this movie and how it wound up being the most expensive movie I ever saw.
I gotta disagree with the 2 crew on one criticism: "sense offender" isn't first thought, it's 23rd thought. Like that's not top of the dome, that's you've been second guessing yourself too much and forgot what good is
Have caldwell and emily watched RWBY? I feel like they'd be fucking nuts for the transforming weapons and gun martial arts. It's like 6/10 writing at best but the fight choreo really brings it up
Okay did my homework and watched it, rad as hell. Now I can listen
Gun-Kata feels like its is right at home in neo-gladeron🥹🙏 uncle drilly’s gun-kata dojo🤯
The crew REALLY REALLY needs to watch that gun-fu clip from Resident Evil: Vendetta movie of Chris v Glenn. This is ALL I could think about this whole episode
https://youtu.be/XzFhZ5hrTqY?is=doLp5wB9jhO2fswN
Can we get a one shot for a mixed bag one of these days
Really appreciate Murph's growth in coming to accept and acknowledge his Ls of various sizes.
What was Caldwell's joke/comment about wanting to shy away from guns due to other things that happened that year? The way he said it and their reaction made me think one of the more significant shootings (like Columbine) or something happened and I got nothing.
Murph. Thank you so much for the dog shooting warning.
This view crew has made me want you guys to watch "wanted" continue all bangers summer lol
I was sold at the "karate woosh noises" that happened every time Bale moved his arms in that first firefight.
Y'all gotta watch Shin Kamen Rider for one of these
When I was getting my music degree in college, there was kind of a semi-snooty air to a lot of music majors who would talk about lesser known, more modern composers - I assume it made them sound/feel smart and well-read. Then, we had the music history lecture where the entire two hours were spent on Beethoven's 5th symphony alone, taught by a genius who got her doctorate in German romantic-period music. One of the single most recognizable pieces of music by one of the handful of composers every Joe Schmoe knows the name of, and we all left changed people. I haven't watched the movie (and certainly never will), but based on your description of the movie and plot, there's a (very good) reason they chose Beethoven for the scene. I promise. 🥰 Hmm. Maybe I need to see the Mona Lisa again.
Haven't seen the movie, but the way they described his obsession with the woman made me think of Oryx and Crake (book that came out a year later). Emily mentioned that they should have focused on p*rn instead, which that book does. This isn't a book recommendation, that book sucked, but is kinda interesting.
So why was it called Equilibrium? Was that what they called the emotionless state after you take the meds?
mosa lina is like 5 bucks on steam Em. also who is to say porn isn't art? not read up on y'alls Sontag huh
Speaking of Milla Jovovich and movies released around 9/11, those Resident Evil movies might make for some great Mixed Bag content
how much do I need to pay to see murph in a trench coat doing gun-kata?
That coat is going to be so majestic and billowing, in order to conceal the chair he uses for his Ultimate Technique
Holy shit! This was the deepest most badass movie to me at 16.
I’m not gonna lie, I saw DBZ x BurgerKing collab and I immediately ran here.
Including Mixed Bags, my podcatcher says this is your 1000th episode!! 🎉🎉🎉
Great episode, fuck you for making me think about Fast Car
It makes me sad😥
My gun-kata speciality; Gun-chucks. It's two modified pump shotguns that I've chained together.
I am begging you, if you like Guncata, or that cheesy b movie feel, you guys have to do a mixed bag of this! (Super Mario Warfare. A cross between Super Smash Bros., Modern Warfare, and every old school Bruce Lee movie you have ever seen.) It is only an hour and 20 minutes, so just a short feature. I PROMISE YOU WON'T REGRET IT!!! https://youtu.be/SfbAk7Lr_yI?is=zQ5kLJ2F9r49PEKG
I don't know why but I always associate that movie with another crappy one that came out like 8 years later. Begging the crew to watch Daybreakers as a follow on to this
I swear to dice christ I put this movie on with my paramount + free trial 3 days ago thinking what the heck. I couldn’t get through it. Then I thought hmmmm this seems like something NAADPOD would reference and make fun of and I am so excited to listen to the ep lololol
Hey, GunKata needs work in the film but it's effectively Ultra Instinct for normal humans with guns
Now I was little drunk when this mix bag dropped and decided to watch the movie before listening so grain of salt and all that...but wasn't the resistance INSIDE one of their comm centers? I remember Bale being like "everyone out!" And then cracked a whole in the wall and the resistance was inside there. Either this was a massive miss by the view crew or the 2 minutes I thought I fell asleep for was much longer lol
When Emily said she saw the Mona Lisa in real life I thought that she was going to point out the real one is tiny, and those people died over protecting a blown-up print.
IT'S SO SMALL.
One big bullet is truly original and is not a copy of any other art.
My 14 year old self is so pissed about you dismantling their favorite film of the month. Clearly you guys need to watch the Bourne Identity and pick it apart next. Then me and my divorced dad will have nothing to talk about at our weekly Texas Roadhouse dinners in 2004.
Please explore the further iteration of Gun Kata in Ultraviolet
Time to pull out the dvd and refresh my memory.
I love how Murph's main critique is that they should have super powers and gunkata should be more important.
If I had a nickel every time a beloved D&D podcast spent a lot of time talking about Equalibrium, I would have two nickels!
It is absolutely wild that Caldwell brought up how Metal Gear coded it is, because, I shit you not, Kurt Wimmer was attached to write and direct a Metal Gear Solid movie in 2003.
You guys should do swordfish a crazy 2001 movie tht shouldn’t exist
the two crew HAS to watch to minority report for no suck summer
Pitch for the next No Suck Summer : RIEGN OF FIRE - that is Christian Bale AND DRAGONS. I yield my remaining time.
I only saw that movie once when I was young, so I don’t know how well it holds up. But I do know there are a bunch of small moments that have stuck with me for years from it. When some of the side characters raid their garden and one takes a big triumphant bite out of a tomato, it just felt like a perfect beat to show how even with such little hope in the world humans would still find pleasure in whatever small things they could. Same with the scene where characters are acting out the Star Wars movies for the kids, movies from before the apocalypse now morphing into the oral storytelling legends like our ancestors used. And of course I remember everything with fighting dragons to be rad as hell. I don’t know if I want to see it again to see what I missed as a kid, or to never watch it again and keep my memories of it pure and perfect in my mind.
I forgot this movie even existed.
One of my arguments in favor of this movie is that sometimes, especially when dealing with fascist themes, is that it’s ok to not be subtle with your message. Media literacy is at an all time low and sometimes it’s fine to be like “these are the bad guys, they are clearly bad, there is no grey area. They are nazis and want to control you through what you are allowed to think and feel” I mean look at how many people empathized with Bear in obsession and that’s not even very subtle. Also Gun-Kata fucking rules
I haven't listened yet but I love Equilibrium and I agree with you. Our current fascism isn't particularly discreet.
This is probably my favorite post 90s B movie of all time so this is going to be a rough listen. I think it's important to watch this in your late teens/ early 20s.
Hell yes! I remember watching Equilibrium in high school and loving it, some clips for it came up in my algorithm recently and I still thought it was awesome. It was genuinely kind of confusing to hear people both not know about it and not like it. 100% agree seeing it in your teens/ 20s will affect your viewing experience. It is very much a movie of its era. I also do remember thinking gunkata was silly but not caring because the concept was cool.
I'm dumb... is Caldwell talking about 9/11?
Nah
Murphy's lazyboy gunkata specialty really got me 🤣
I would have never expected this movie. Bullet Proof Monk is what they crew should have watched.
Hearing them describe the ideal version of this movie just sounds like a studio trigger anime 😆
There are two types of dnd podcast: the kind where the cast dislike Equilibrium and the kind where the cast love Equilibrium
"Anger and rage don't count as emotions" is the most toxic-masculinity shit ever, which I suppose fits the dystopia. A world run by every man who has whined about how emotional women are while beating their partner to death for looking at them wrong.
Alright, here’s my pitch on how we get the ball rolling on improving things. First, we pivot a little so instead of the bad guys being a generic “emotions are bad” police state, we make them an oppressive extremely puritanical theocracy mixed with hyper-American nationalists. This does two things for us: 1) allows us to keep the “emotions are bad” thing from the movie. However, we change it just a little so it’s more like “impulses and non-Christian thoughts are bad.” 2) the extremely traditional American identity gives us a reason why everyone is super into getting really good at guns. Have gun-kata be like the state-sanctioned “purified/cleansed” version of martial arts or “heretical” eastern practices. 3) Then instead of the more generic “art is bad” we can also have it so any culture not believed to be too provocative, or not Christian or American enough, is what they are destroying. That way, you can use art that’s a little more modern but is traditionally seen as part of the counter-culture. Those are my ideas. I agree with them, there is a good idea of a movie here, but this sure wasn’t it.
The American Psycho novel was definitely written by a gay man, Bret Easton Ellis. I believe the adaptation was written by a pair of women though.
Does NADPODD know that it has declared war with dungeons and daddies now???
Do they review/hyper-fixate on tepid aughts cinema as well?
THE PEOPLE NEED KEEN BEANS
I remember this movie kicking so much ass when I was like 13. I would have just read Fahrenheit 451 in school and definitely thought I was so smart for noticing the obvious connection to it lol the real question though is when are we gonna get an Emily led mixed bag of the Charlie’s Angels movies? 😎
Bag it! Bale can Klump.
Caldwell’s Mona Lisa Smile 👁️👅👁️
Huzzah!
I’m so excited for this, this was my favorite movie when I was a kid. Gun-kata me home
I love when Emily talks seriously or semi-seriously about art, story, and creativity. She’s so insightful and you can tell how well versed she is on the subject.
If you want more gun-kata then just watch almost any John Woo movie, he is the one who pioneered gunfu conceptually and still has yet to be surpassed in his art as far as I'm concerned
Very fun mixed bag, but was anybody else surprised that we got equilibrium before we got minority report?
Honestly this is way better than a new campaign tbh.
I get why people say it's a rip off of The Matrix, however it is more a remake or a reimagining of Fahrenheit 451, in my opinion. Also, the way they showed emotions affecting the characters in the movie was the use of color. In the start of the movie it is stark black and white, and the warm colors bleed through as the characters "wake up".
Very Pleasantville!
Because of where the line break is, I assumed the line was "the 2002 Christian film"
I remember watching this as a teenager and someone decided we should take shots whenever one of the emotion-free characters showed any emotions. I ended up being sick in a potted plant which, shockingly is still alive today. So that was a fun memory to dig out from the vault 😂
Much in the way a nat 1 tells a better story, a bad piece of cinema makes a better Mixed Bag 😍
The way I was truly so sure it would be newsies only for yall to take a sharp left turn to Equilibrium
I stopped halfway through to look up gun kata and it’s so much more insane than I thought it would be haha
Oh thank Melora. When Caldwell mentioned in his livestream that it was a Christian Bale film I thought for sure we were going to have to listen to you talk about Newsies.
When Jake mentioned it, I was convinced it was newsies considering his joy and excitement. Who knew
18 year old me loved this movie. I would guess it was not good then and is not good now. Haha
This movie makes me think of the Garth Marenghi "I know writers that use subtext and they're all cowards" quote. I *do* love an extremely on the nose dystopia though
Kurt was inspired to write this movie after visiting a museum and realizing Art can be Good
Happy 1000th post! Wheee!!!
Kurt Whimmer is my favorite Himbo Director Bee Keeper 2 should be out next year
oooh im baleing it im baleing it
She Christian on my Bale till I Equilibrium
Before listening prediction: I look forward to Emily's next character that does Gun-Kata.
I can never tell what's coming next with the view crew choices
Hell yea just as work got boring Ive been saved
