Radio War Nerd EP #223 — Samurai Revolution + Annibale on Italy Pandemic, pt. 2
Guests: Annibale + Romulus Hillsborough, author
Recorded: March 23, 2020
First: the War Nerd & Ames discuss their precarious "airbnb in the time of Coronavirus" lives...
At 22:30 - We're joined by Annibale in Italy to discuss the latest news out of Northern Italy, one of the hardest hit regions in the world, and a preview of what's to come...
At 1:23:00 - Romulus Hillsborough, author of several great books about Samurai, talks with the Nerd about the violent last years of the Tokugawa Shogunate and the Samurai world in the mid-late 19th-c.
Buy Romulus Hillsborough's books: "Samurai Revolution: The Dawn of Modern Japan Seen Through the Eyes of the Shogun's Last Samurai" , "Shinsengumi: The Shogun's Last Samurai Corps", "Samurai Assassins: Dark Murder and the Meiji Restoration, 1853-1868". Check out Romulus's web page here.
Follow Annibale on Twitter. Listen to Annibale's popular RWN series: Coronavirus in Italy (#222); Venetian Empire (#207, #208, #209, #214); The Hundred Years War (#175, #176, #177, #180, #182, #183); Italy's Years Of Lead (#134, #135, #136, #139); Italian Resistance in WW2 (#131).
Total time: 2:33:00
Comments (14)
Excellent show guys. And thank you for the time markers which are very helpful.
There’s a chain of restaurants in the Los Angeles area called “Shin-Sen-Gumi.” I had no idea that their namesake is a special police force organized by the Bakufu!
Great episode. It was really nice to see the change in Japan in this era. This piece of history certainly doesn't get much attention.
Also wanna thank you and Annibale. Working in a grocery store at the moment and his word helped me feel prepared and approach this w the appropriate seriousness. Take care!
Great episode, excited to check out his books. Annibale you are a legend and a comfort to hear.
I studied the Samurai Arts in Sapporo Japan. My teacher's ancestors fought in 1868 in The Battle of Hakodate. Great stuff.
A question for Romulus if he is here: what is your take on 80s tv-series Shogun? What is pure fiction and what are factual take-aways?
I absolutely understand the urge to leave town and go someplace comparatively disease-free to ride out the epidemic. I live in Seattle, I've certainly entertained the notion myself. But I also know a bit about the history of epidemics. And one of the recurring truths is that the very best way to propagate a contagion beyond a hotspot is to have a substantial number of people attempting to flee from it. This is how plagues reach the hinterlands quickly. And the hinterlands tend to have lower per-capita medical capacities and more precarious infrastructure than dense urban cores. In the past, entire remote villages were wiped out; the local doctor would be the first to go, and as the disease knocked out the town's laborers, people would start to succumb who might otherwise have made it if they'd had, say, plenty of food, water, or firewood. Epidemiologists know all about this, of course, and nations that listen to their epidemiologists are taking steps to prevent it. In Norway, for example, a substantial percentage of the urban population have summer cabins. When the outbreak struck, naturally people fled to their cabins. And the government banned it. They banned it with teeth, too-- penalties of stiff fines or weeks in jail. And they send the police around to the cabins to clear out anyone who resists the policy.
And the rage from Norway's tory demographic who now can't go to their million-dollar cabins. Its priceless. Imagine Peter Thiel showing up in New Zealand and being told by the immigration "sorry, but our health care system is really on the brink right now, you can come back and hang out in your bunker when this pandemic is all over". The silver lining is that it’s perfectly legal to visit a cabin within your own municipality, so all the locals with legit low-tech cabins can go there and be completely alone.
I really enjoyed the Annibale section of the show.
finally its comes down to socialsm/communial service or barbarism ... Annibles comment about no time fo rprivate health care is sentiment felt in Australia where the government is trying to natiionalise by stealth to protect private insurnace but places like America it seems to be the thunderdome over there
much, much love to you fellas and to the community; stay safe out there
Its not my field but my uniformed conclusion is that testing indeed dosnt really matter beside for peunomia.
It may be 4 am but god damn do I need my fix if this rn thanks for posting
