TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION: MICHAEL

Good point. Michael is not the name under which men are saved.

this one came to mind , particularly the last verse, but i don't think it can stand alone or too-directly responds to this topic. Acts 4:12 "10 Be it knowen vnto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the Name of Iesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whome God raised from the dead, euen by him, doeth this man stand here before you, whole. 11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner. 12 Neither is there saluation in any other: for there is none other name vnder heauen giuen among men whereby we must be saued."

I appreciate Roy's explanation of where the SDA and others get the notion that Michael is Jesus.

Also, Jude 1:9 reads, "Yet Michael the Archangel, when contending with the deuill, he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee." In this verse, Michael invoked the Lord to rebuke the devil. If Michael was Jesus, he would not invoke himself; for, Jesus is the Lord. Throughout the NT, when Jesus cast out devils, he always did it by his own authority, never invoking the Lord. Being the Lord, why would he?

I forgot Daniel 10:13 . . .where it seems even more clear that Michael is not Jesus . . ("13But the prince of the kingdome of Persia withstood mee one and twentie dayes: but loe, Michael one of the chiefe Princes came to helpe mee, and I remained there with the Kings of Persia.") Micheal is described as ONE of the chief princes.

In this regard . . it is telling that the Book of Daniel was excluded from the Books of the Prophets in rabbinic literature and the Talmud did not consider Daniel to be a prophet.

I think some of this answer can be found in the book of Daniel. Does Daniel call Jesus Christ by three different names? Or is Jesus the "sonne" and is Michael just Michael the archangel? Daniel refers to the "sonne of God" in Daniel 3:24-25 ("Then Nebuchad-nezzar the king was astonied, and rose vp in haste, and spake and said vnto his counsellers, Did not wee cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said vnto the king; True, O king. 25He answered and said, Loe, I see foure men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they haue no hurt, and the forme of the fourth is like the sonne of God." Daniel refers to the "sonne of man" in Daniel 7:13-14("13I saw in the night visions, and behold, one like the sonne of man, came with the clouds of heauen, and came to the Ancient of daies, and they brought him neere before him. 14And there was giuen him dominion and glory, and a kingdome, that all people, nations, and languages should serue him: his dominion is an euerlasting dominion, which shall not passe away; and his kingdome that, which shall not be destroyed.") And Daniel mentions Michael in Daniel 12:1 ("And at that time shall Michael stand vp, the great Prince which standeth for the children of thy people, and there shalbe a time of trouble, such as neuer was since there was a nation, euen to that same time: and at that time thy people shalbe deliuered, euery one that shalbe found written in the booke.") Very pertinent to the question is the fact that Michael "standeth for the children of THY people." These are those who are writtent in the book of Life . . whom we know from elsewhere to be Jesus Christ's people. In my opinon, if Michael is Jesus Christ, Daniel would have written . . standeth for the children of HIS people.

And, Hebrews 5:1 "For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?"

But to which of the Angels said hee at any time, Sit on my right hand, vntill I make thine enemies thy footstoole?