FOR YOUR EVALUATION
One of my subscribers felt this woman was credible. What do you all think? I would appreciate any feedback. One thing for sure, she hits the elite institutional churches square between the horns (no pun intended). youtube.com/@themastersvoiceprophecyblog
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Yeah, I’m used to a lot of YouTube content and I’m usually very non-reactive and don’t seem to get an immediate read on people, but for some reason this woman gave me weird vibes after just a few seconds and I was just like, WOAH, and then she said she was a prophet, and I just can’t believe that, unless she preaches straight from the conviction of the word of God found in the Bible.
i just got back on here again. i dont think i have much to add here. but...spidey-senses stay away from these channels. you guys know more than me i'm sure (perhaps you are older). the whole look of them [some websites,some channels]. they have a certain look and vibe. if anyone knows what i mean! perhaps i've been around the Youtubes too much. i can't make myself watch it, my eyes water and i heave. i swears i will cough-up a hairball. I WONT WATCH IT SORRY LOL :')) i went to their website. it just...all looks like it's looking in the wrong direction. she is speaking God's words? that doesnt seem right. unless it's from the bible. which theirs isnt.
well, i dont know how far-gone they are (this channel/person), but i think its a good idea to pray like mad
. . . and immediately after the Book of Jonah comes the Book of Micah . . which lays out God's wrath against the unrighteous and unbelieving.
. . as an aside . . I know that the "Sign of Jonah" given to the unbelieving is widely interpreted to refer to Jonah's three days in the belly of the whale and Christ's resurrection three days after his mortal death at crucifixion. And I accept this as a valid interpretation for those living in that day who would have been made aware of the resurrected Christ walking among them . . for 40 days . . . prior to his ascension. But I wonder . . are we missing the FULL meaning of "Sign of Jonah"? After emerging from the whale, Jonah told Nineveh it had . . 40 days . . to repent or be destroyed. Isn't this what Jesus gave to the Hebrews who crucified him and were alive when he walked the earth? 40 Days AFTER he was crucified of his physical presence to show them the error of their ways? Because he loved them . . even after his ascension . . . Jesus gave the Hebrews FORTY YEARS to repent prior to the destruction of Jerusalem. I believe this is also the "Sign of Jonah". God loves ALL of his creation . . and is slow to destroy any of it, even those who crucified him! A Godly expression of "love thine enemies". We must remember that Paul, the most prolific Apostle, was saved (along with many many others) during this final 40 year window of God's grace for the Hebrew nation. I refer to the Book of Jonah where God expresses his love for Nineveh . . Jonah 4:9 . . 9 (And God said to Jonah, Doest thou well to be angry for the gourd? And he said, I do well to be angry, even unto death. 10 Then said the Lord, Thou hast had pity on the gourd, for the which thou hast not laboured, neither madest it grow; which came up in a night, and perished in a night: 11 and should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?)
You make a very good point that 40 years after Jesus' crucifixion, the temple and Jerusalem were destroyed.
The late date has been the position of the church from the earliest theologians and scholars, Iraneaus and Polycarp, for example. Preterism was contrived to get the pope of the Antichrist hot seat, as was futurism.
Yes, agreed. Reg . . reflecting more on my own understanding expressed above regarding "new" prophecy . . post-Revelation . . I know that others may disagree. I would love to know your thoughts. So the specific question I have for you/congregation is . . does the Bible allow for modern day prophetic visions? If so, how do we reconcile Revelation 22:18. One thing I note in scripture is that prophetic visions and dreams rarely give exact specifics, but need to be interpreted by a Man of God/Prophet. Joseph's dream, Nebudchadnezzar's dream, John in Revelation, Ezekiel's vision. Daniel's dreams seem to give the most specifics, but even they have been twisted without Holy Spirit direction. Paul is another who is very close to being specific, but his words have also been twisted to support a false Christ. Personally, I find Christ's prophecy regarding the destruction of the Temple to be the most specific, direct and amazing . . of course since our Lord professed it. Anyone who cannot/could not see that the Bible is true and Jesus Christ was God after the fulfillment of this prophecy with the destruction of Jerusalem will never be convinced. This is also why I think Revelation was written AFTER the destruction of Jerusalem (sorry Preterists) and that it is Jesus Christ's final prophetic word.
Rome is the key. All roads lead to Rome. One is permitted to say certain things against Rome, but connecting all the dots and teaching that the popes and the Vatican are the antichrist and his dynasty; that is not permitted. If she did that she would have very few subscribers. I'm convinced that she has Rome's blessing. Also, YT cannot be trusted. The statistics it presents are probably not true, but reflect who they serve.
Yep. We know these false teachers directly serve Rome, preying on the weak, and leading them away from the real Jesus Christ. I wonder if Celestial is just the next progression of that deception . . exposing all of these false teachers EXCEPT the Catholic Church. I couldn't find a single video where she takes on Rome. Maybe there is one or two as a token effort.
CELESTIAL, a. 1. Heavenly; belonging or relating to heaven; dwelling in heaven; as celestial spirits; celestial joys. Hence the word conveys the idea of superior excellence, delight, purity, &c. 2. Belonging to the upper regions, or visible heaven; as celestial signs; the celestial globe. 3. Descending from heaven; as a suit of celestial armor. CELESTIAL, n. An inhabitant of heaven.
A born again, spirit filled Christian who studies the scripture immediately recognizes false teachers. They don't need a so-called prophetess or prophet to tell them. Every corrupt teacher she mentioned I recognized as deceivers the minute I heard them speak. If a person cannot recognize the likes of Benny Hinn, TD Jakes, Copeland, Hickey et al, then it is unlikely that they have the Holy Spirit indwelling them. Those who follow false teachers do it because they share the same spirit.
Here are some words from Ezekial very similar to Jerimiah: And mine hand shall be vpon the Prophets that see vanitie, and that diuine lyes: they shall not bee in the assembly of my people, neither shall they be written in the writing of the house of Israel, neither shall they enter into the land of Israel, and ye shall know that I am the Lord God.
Also her picture of fire looks like satanic face of a baphomet.
I had a hard time just listening to this. But she said the cup kept being offered to her. Why would God offer her the cup? To me that is more of what Satan would do. He constantly tries to entice us to drink of his cup. Just my thoughts.
From the little time I spent watching bits of a few videos, I am very concerned about people listening to her. Her appearance and the way she speaks indicates to me that she is part of the Hebrew Roots movement. It appears that she has many people who are caught up in the snare of the Hebrew Roots movement by the comment section being filled with people using Hebrew words such as “YAH,” etc… Caught up in “Literalism,” speaking “prophetically” for hours on end about worldly things/people/events that may or may not come true is a spiritually dangerous place to be. When I first came out of Catholicism, I listened to numerous videos/YouTube channels that were similar to this channel. I wasted a lot of time that I should have spent reading/studying the 1611 Bible.
Well said Barb . . I see the "Hebrew Roots" garb now that you pointed t out. And you remind me of another point with other modern "prophets". They always seems to attract large worldly followings with the associated worldly benefits . . fame, money, etc. Ellen G White is an example. This woman appears on her way in this regard. Does she have a humble spirit? It is something we all need to check on daily. Scripture tells us that o be a true prophet of God meant a life of enormous hardship. When Jeremiah foretold of the coming destruction and captivity of the Hebrews . . they threw him into a hole in the ground. He essentially had one friend in life, Baruch. Elijah felt so alone in this world that God had to remind him that there were many others just like him. Daniel was a slave (possibly made a eunuch) in Babylon . . who was not followed in his own days by a majority of Hebrews who gladly took on Babylonian ways. He was thrown into a den of lions. His followers were thrown into fire. John transcribed the Revelation while a prisoner. And we all know the great tribulations and humiliations that the Apostles had to endure. Paul endured prison, shipwrecks, and once had to escape a town in a basket!
Many (in the SDA church for example) like to say we can have modern day prophets because of this verse. Joel 2:28 says "And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams." My view of this verse is that visions and prophecies ended with John's Revelation from Jesus. Against this verse is Daniel 12:4 "But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased." There is also Revelation 22:18 " For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: 19 and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book." These verses say that prophecy of the End is complete. I personally believe that people who say "God told me in a vision" and who add to the Word by saying "This is the Word of the Lord", as this woman says, are literally playing with eternal fire. They will add to themselves the plagues set forward in Revelation. God gives us revelation through his Word that is complete and finished. That is the source of our direction. There is a LONG list of false prophets from the past century alone. Ellen G White was another famous prophetess . . so are the "Marian apparitions in the Catholic Church . . the "Secrets of Fatima" . .. etc etc. We know they are false prophets because of all of the things said that did NOT come to pass. Of course, we know from Scripture that ALL nations will be judged. This woman seems to believe that God is telling her the specifics of this process. I listened to one of these videos and this woman seems to have certain political views that sprinkle their way into "the Word of the Lord" as told to her. The mere fact that YouTube has allowed here subscriptions to grow to 174,000 tells me that she has a message that is favored by the Beast. I am also very skeptical of a person named "Celestial" who has prophetic dreams and specific words spoken to her by the "Lord" on a weekly basis . . 442 videos worth. My hope is that she is just sharing here understanding of the Word as applied to the World today . . much of which I find to be mere speculation rather than firmly based in Scripture.
I agree with your comment here. The 174,000 subscribers was also a “red flag” for me. Their are a lot of people out there that merely want their ears tickled.😔
I also noted, in the TD Jakes video, that she said Joel Osteen did not fall into judgment because God had reverence and respect for Joel's father. Firstly, scripture says, "God is not a respecter of persons" (Acts 10:54); and, it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. It was estimated that John Osteen, Joel's father, died having amassed a fortune of nearly 60 million dollars. How is it possible that God could say that he had respect for John Osteen?
I ask why would God tell her such things? Pentecostalism at its "best". When anyone boasts saying God told me this or that it is obvious he did not. "And no marueile, for Sathan himselfe is transformed into an Angel of light". As we say on the prison isle, "yeah...nah" The name Celestial is a "jibe". They do this often.
I listened to her post titled, ""TD JAKES: THE FINAL WORD OF THE LORD." Around 28:07 she says that God told her some of the corrupt pastors will be with God in heaven for the good work they have done. I have a problem with this. Does anyone else?
Yes, I do. There are many channels like this that maybe have a bit of good content that pulls people in, but then they lead people down a path that isn't in truth because they trust them. We have to constantly discern these messages.
