FLAT OR SPHERICAL EARTH? CONCLUDING THOUGHTS.

Far too many build their argument on the basis of "the ends justifies the means" instead of going in unbiased with a mind to learn. Thank you Reg.

Fascinating. I need to think about what you've said.

Jesus was taken in Spirit to an exceedingly high mountain. The Bible describes a place that reaches higher up than the tallest mountain here on earth, namely new Jerusalem, which was measured to be about 1500 miles high, where John was also taken in Spirit. Why is it so tall? It is cube shaped, something I found one other place in scripture, the most Holy room in the Temple, where God resided. So new Jerusalem is a representation of where God will reside with man. At the centre of new Jerusalem is the tree of life (which represents Jesus), so I am wondering, could the tree of life be 1500 miles tall? We find in another place in scripture a gigantic tree, reaching all the way to heaven, before it was cut down, in the dream of king Nebuchadnezzar. Daniel 4:20 says that the sight of it reached to all the earth. This be the cross reference to Matthew 4:8 at least, I think. A question I have, How did the flood of Noa happen? If you ever cut down a branch of an old tree, you might see that there is a lot of water in trees, they are essentially water pumps. So my theory is that the Antediluvian world cut down all the giant trees that God made on day three, and that is how the sea was formed, as all the water has to go somewhere. Water is really heavy, so once at the surfaces the earth, the ground is going to be pushed down. In science I been taught that there is always an equal and opposite reaction, so once the ground is pushed down, another place it has to be pushed up. Where the ground was pushed up, that is the land we live on, where it was pushed down, that is the sea floor. Note that after new Jerusalem comes down to the earth, the seas are no more (Rev21:1), as I assume all the water that is on the surface of the earth, will be inside the tree of life, where it flows out as a clear river (Rev22:1). Anyway that is some thought I have on this matter. I could be wrong on this, and still try and piece this together. I edit in some more thought. Polaris can be seen from the Tropic of Capricorn, that means Madagascar. The tree of life is a lot bigger than a star, so would be easier to spot, and have branches that stretches in all directions. Assuming that 1500 miles high is what scripture teaches us that the second heaven is at, then that be the height of the North Star, in order to be seen from all the kingdoms of the earth. I can also add that a giant tree, would produce a a lot more oxygen rich air, which our lungs would breath, making us able to run for longer without getting exhausted, maybe even grow larger, and live longer.

Yeah. I was hoping for more scriptural discussion on the topic. Nevertheless, I enjoyed the interaction.

Good point. I'm familiar with most of these arguments. But, as I have said, most of the arguments are from observation and man's science. Very little comes from the actual scripture.

One more thing to ponder. Read old military manuals about artillery trajectories, long range shooting, and radio propagation. They actually mention that their figures are based upon a flat stationary earth model and that is the math they still use (but fail to mention that aspect today). All engineering that works is based upon this principle.

Yep the problem is the only people that really know are the ones with the money and power to fly to the outer reaches of this earth (which I think they have done). I try not to get too hung up on the things my feeble mind can't completely understand. The NASA and space deception is fairly telling that things are not what we were taught. The sun and moon sure seem closer and I am always in awe of God's engineering! I sound like a broken record on this, but look at what the sun is doing. It literally makes no sense on a flat or globular earth model! It moves in 260-270 degree arcs from each perspective and seems to almost be in multiple places at the same time. The moon has it's own curiosities with the lighted part sometimes being away from the sun and the fact that you can sometimes see the hole moon even when not completely lit up. I am convinced that it is it's own light as God has told us. Can people land on it? The badly done video work tells me no. Can people bounce radio waves off of it? Maybe. The way all these "satellite" internet and tv systems work is reflecting microwave radio waves off the atmospheric layers (I believe possibly the firmament) and bounce down towards your dish or antenna. If they were "satellites" in "space" then everyone's dishes would have to move to follow the RF beam! Sorry for the ramble but things I have been thinking about! Thanks

(. . .sorry . . I guess this could be considered a Geocentrist comment . . but I don't think a spherical earth is possible in a geocentric reality. I am in the camp of impenetrable firmament over a circle of the earth . . . which may be curved over parts . . however God wanted it to be :) )

Thank-you for your concluding thoughts Reg. This was very interesting!

Thank you Reg. You asked about the importance of the issue. The shape may not be flat or spherical, but I think the physical truth of our reality is important because it the true evidence of God's creation . . and his love for us. So . . pagan notions of other "planets" . . "outer space" . . the moon and sun . . ALL have ancient roots in Babylonian religion and astrology . . and all are Satan's counterfeits of the truth of our physical reality. A comment recently noted how the international COVID response was coordinated worldwide and showed that the Beast system had worldwide control (at least as it related to that issue.) Well . .. the same can be said of exploration of Antarctica (Antarctic Treaty System) and "Space" (International Space, Station, Artemis Program, Vectors in every nation's logo, etc.). Why such uniformity in these areas? I believe it is to hide the physical reality how close God is to us . . . just beyond the clouds . . and the reality that we are the focus of his love. Werner Von Braun was a Nazi rocket scientist who was brought over from Germany to help start NASA. I believe he gave a clue as to the deception that NASA was set up to promulgate with the reference on his tombstone . . Psalm 19:1. "The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament sheweth his handywork."