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May 11, 2026

REFUTING THE RAPTURE

Today, I gave this message to the 1611 Fellowship. Next week we'll carry on with church history. (By the way, I posted this earlier today, but it seems to have disappeared, so I'm reposting.)

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Dianne Rogers · July 15, 2026

Actually I enjoy your long comments Roy, feels like I get a bonus sermon 🙏👍keep them coming lol

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Elsie · May 15, 2026

Lam 1:20, Deut 32:25, Ps 55:4

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Elsie · May 15, 2026

Job 20:14

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Reginald Jacob Block · May 15, 2026

Scripture teaches a first resurrection, as I believe you all know. For most of the history of the church that was what was taught. Today, most institutional church Christians are 'rapture-crazy.' As Adolph Hitler said, (I paraphrase) if you make the lie really big and keep repeating it, eventually people will believe it.

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Elsie · May 14, 2026

two ppl got baptised today i can barely breathe 🥳🙏😂especially after crying all over lamentations book last night. i thought to myself, if that book doesnt bring ppl to cry out for God's mercy, then what will?

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Reginald Jacob Block · May 12, 2026

Rapturists must have their imminent return doctrine. It's how they justify their "secret coming," allowing them (falsely) to break the first resurrection into two phases - a secret coming for believers and a second resurrection for the Jews ...very clever indeed, but no scripture to back it up.

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Roy · May 15, 2026

"The Jews" . . that is a laughable historical and modern concept. Jesus destroyed Jerusalem (via the Roman Army). The survivors scattered through the world . . intermarried . . converted to other religions . . etc etc. Who are they? The people who call themselves Jews? People who grow their hair a certain way ? Cut their flesh a certain way? Wear the right hat? Walk to synagogue on Saturday? Live in a geographic territory and consider themselves atheists (if you believe most polls of citizens of Israel)? Are the citizens of Tel Aviv . the most homosexual city in the world by almost all accounts . . going to be raptured? Ridiculous. What did God do to Sodom and Gomorrah? Quite the opposite of a "rapture" as I recall.

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Reginald Jacob Block · May 11, 2026

Hi Roy, Indeed it is strong delusion.

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Roy · May 11, 2026

Thank you Reg . . another great listen! I'll spare everyoneanother long comment on this topic (which is fun for me/not always for you guys) because I think it is enough to have people understand that "the Rapture" is a Jesuit-imagined doctrine and to ask anyone who still believes it . . .can good fruit come from a corrupt tree? Matt 7:18. Perhaps the final part of the great falling away will be when the Rapture never happens (see,eg., the Millerites and the Great Disappointment.)

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Roy · May 11, 2026

(. . I can't help myself . . one more thing . . I speculate the Rapture lie is big part of the "strong delusion" sent by God near Christ's return "that they should beleeue a lye" 2 Thessalonians 2:11)

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Hillis Waddell · May 11, 2026

VERY relevant and edifying! Thank you.