[BONUS] Episode F - Nick Valentine in Fallout 4 + Far Harbor
On this Patreon exclusive bonus episode of Be Gay Solve Crimes, we're checking in on our dear friend, the synth detective himself, Nick Valentine from Fallout 4 and Far Harbor.
Join us as Lucy gets immediately sidetracked into talking about Fallout: New Vegas, Mia and Nova join forces to try and mod in a jerry-built judicial system to the post-apocalypse, and Nick Valentine gives us all some much needed heckling.
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Comments (46)
Recently finished rewatching Star Trek The Original Series with my sister, and "Balance of Terror" is the film "The Enemy Below" but in space, as Kirk and the captain of a Romulan ship have a ship battle. I'm not sure which episode November is thinking of, because there are so many Trek episodes that could fit here
Fallout 4 came out just after my dog died, do I never got around to actually playing it, because hearing the dog get hurt in Fallout 3 have me to much psychic pain when she was fully healthy. I still haven't got around to it, but I did watch TFS's full playthrough.
It's wild that I enjoyed this episode so much when the character's name means I'm hearing my deadname every ten seconds. 🤣
already outdated now that hbomb has engaged in the pedojacketing and kiwifarms-style harassment of a trans woman, for the crime of not being happy about the time hbomb underpaid her for her work
Given that the podcast is on robot trans detectives- I’d love for a Detroit Become Human Episode Editing this to say the last minute mention of Veronica and Christine made my day.
i delete a 500 hour save file like its nothing. idk if that's good or bad. maybe it's like a sand mandala.
Laughs in 3500+ hours in animal crossing new horizons
A few years after transition I booted up my old save of fallout 4 only to discover I had named my original character Rosemary. Years and years before I took that name for myself. Ffs
RE Lovecraft: Have you played the Arkham horror card game? I love it so much, really nails the detective feeling
Hate that I got Vicky 3 jump scared while listening to this playing modded Vicky 3
Good episode, but you didn't even come close to addressing the most important topic: Another settlement needs your help; I've marked it on your map.
Lucy’s an incredibly talented editor
I can't believe I didn't get my autism diagnosis until after (checks my steam account) roughly 780 hours of playing Fallout 4. And that's on PC only, I started on console.
also fun fact, you can choose to kill Shaun the moment you meet him and it's actually a pretty good way to skip a good chunk of the main story and go pretty much straight to the end
Bethesda RPGs are so weird. I can burn time in them in stupid amounts but they don't make me feel very much. Witcher 3 I played it, I played the expansions, I laughed, I cried, I will never go back. Disco Elysium moved me to reconsider and change my path in life. Cyberpunk 2077 manifested how I imagined the TTRPG I played in my youth so perfectly that I basically just did that Three Stooges thing of spinning around in a circle on the floor whooping until the game crushed me with existential dread. Those three RPGs deeply affected me, but all three combined don't add up to the time I've spent dicking around in FO4. As bland and banal as it is, it's always fun. I've tried to go back but I don't have the luxury of time to fuck about with all the mods that got wrecked by the stupid last patch.
By the way, if you are interested in Lovecraft- look up an RPG system called Delta Green. You play X-files style detectives investigating Cthulhu style horrors.
Fallout 4: Far Harbour is specifically my favorite Bethesda Fallout idea, and the DLC that made me swear off Bethesda RPGs forever. You have this interesting setting, something that seems like Bethesda was willing to finally have an original idea. You got this weird fog, this weird place. What is happening. Why is it happening. And I was so invested, right up until the first super mutant who was on the island for no reason showed up and said the same canned lines they always do and my suspension of disbelief was so shattered that Justin Rozniak read out a date and time. I put it down and never picked it up again.
The moment of realisation that your degree is actually relevant to what you do day to day actually happened to me recently. I realised that leftist organising online and fighting misinformation wasn't such a lateral move from getting a game culture degree during gamer gate as I initially thought.
November, could you please post your mod list?
Daaaaamn, the bit about the life you had before transition had me fully in tears... Like Lucy, I transitioned at 27, and it always gets me in the feels when I remember how full that life was in a few limited ways, but how empty it was at the same time. Someone mentioned Ghost in the Shell I'm another comment, and as a tangential connection, the song "beauty is within us" from the Stand Alone Complex OST resonates really strongly with how I felt back then, what with lines like "a mutant man, a woman underneath". So yeah. Thanks for a wonderful podcast as always! ❤️
aww i’m glad it resonated with you! proud of you for working it out in the end 💛 here’s to a lifetime lived authentically, at this rate i’ll live a thousand more of them before i die
I didn't play FO4, so I'm just learning now that they were cribbing from Blade Runner but apparently didn't include the replica of Deckard's gun that was in 1, 2, and NV.
I did what Lucy did of Fallout 4 then NV/3. So I fell in love with 4 for it being my first RPG, and then saw how much better it can be with NV.
I never played this game, but I understand the "tower defense" section takes place in Lynn Woods, a place I used to go mountain biking all the time when I lived in Lynn. Nice spot, there's also Dungeon Rock nearby, where a spiritualist grifter spent years slowly digging for buried pirate treasure that he sold shares in to people who attended his seances where the ghost pirates told people about the treasure.
okay but fr did they find the ghost pirate treasure?? follow up question, where can i buy a ghost pirate shovel?
My main memory of Fallout 4 is a m8 getting it and coming to my house to play it on the PlayStation, and while we explored, the enormous Paris concert attack happened.
Lucy really has my dream career, librarian + host of a podcast where you can talk about your lit degree as much as you want
The only Bethesda game I've beaten is Morrowind. Every other game I play for a bit, get overwhelmed, give up, create a new character. Repeat until I uninstall the game to play something else.
I always play as a man in videogames for trans reasons. I haven’t played fallout so I’m not too familiar with Nick Valentine, but the clip you played about the clothes making the man resonated with me as a trans man so hard. Especially with the detail of him not being able to pass which was a big concern for me pre top surgery
same! me oscillating between "these clothes will help me pass" and "but what if i just wore what i wanted". is this the man i want to be? or is this the only man i'm allowed to be.
Synths.. Nick's programming? My brain yearns for a Ghost in the Shell episode.
Ghost in the Shell episode? Yes please!
LETS GOOOOOO NICKYYYY. THE BEST PART OF FALLOUT 4.
Okay, I understand The Detective as a trans allegory, but what about power armor? Should we be on the look out for November's newest podcast, Trans-sistor, a podcast about mechs, power armor, and how combat dolls are the true synthesis of being trans?
future season???
FO4 was my intro to the franchise and I think the best writing is actually in the worldbuilding. Poking through terminals, reading fliers, listening to holotapes. I think I was 90+ hours in when my co-worker asked me what I thought of the story. I had forgotten there was a story. I had not even found Kellogg yet.
Is this a safe place? Can I say that Fo4 was one of the 3 games I've returned because I could not stand the gameplay. Should I have spent time with Nick?
We Have To Capture And Milk The Grinch Who Stole Your Christmas
I always play a male in fallout games but I also usually spend hours modding every game so I can be a fox, which I find very gratifying and comforting, so I think I get it.
what are the interesting things about how the light morality and follower system works is that like hyper as a good aligned character approves when you kill what the game considers bad guys like bandits. the problem is that you have an infinite number of bandit slaughtering side quests that endlessly regenerate, and because the gunplay is actually really really really solid, you end up killing insane amount of people for a post-apocalyptic era I just makes Piper like you more the more you kill.
You are talking about Fallout but not the transexual ( good ) one. My disappointment is palpable
i definitely think we could squeeze an entire bonus episode about the dialogueless deceased detective Jay Barnes from the NV quest "Beyond The Beef" :p
finally an excuse to talk about my favourite Certified Bethesda Moment where Nick got stuck in stealth mode and mournfully crab-walked to his brother's dead body
Not being able to romance Nick Valentine is so sad.
There's a fairly decent mod for that
Nick is my best friend in the Commonwealth and no one else's.
