Let's Talk About One Nation

Man this needs to be addressed and prove those one nation idiots wrong. Can you please do more

I left a comment on “news.com.au” Facebook post a few weeks ago in relation to “Hanson being the right fit to lead Australians in the right direction”. I commented “she can barely string two sentences together without tripping over herself.” Immediately attacked as a woke lefty, a labourrrrrrr stooge and told not to trip over my petty coat. 😂😂😂

That'd be good.. on a second note what do you think of the H Speech laws passed??

Yes, please make a public video about the current PHON situation. My wife has been seeing the recent polling and has been getting worried. I explained what happened in QLD and how they’ll have to go from 1 seat in the House of Reps to a majority which isn’t easy. I also explained how preferences will make it hard for them, referencing Antony Green’s recent post about this. My wife and her dad prefer watching your videos and analysis and they are your average semi politically interested person, so I think a public video will help others out there settle the crowd a bit.

Not worried about One Nation in itself. It solely represents the final roar of cultural cringe seen from the last millennium. What I am worried about is the historical rhyme that could occur. It was in 2018 Clive Palmer’s UAP party was leveraged by the media and the Liberal Party to help consolidate further support. It was a small phenomenon given how small the UAPs voting base. Now this time it’s different - it’s bigger - and it’s not as easy for the public to immediately identify who benefits the most. If history doesn’t repeat but rhymes, I’d say: One Nation is a more well organised UAP The Greens and Teals are more organised and opportunistic (whether that be for better but more often worse) than the present day Liberal Party. And the same phenomenon could occur at a larger scale. I do agree that the votes going into One Nation will be scattered. However, I think votes outside of One Nation will flow into extreme answers.

Urgh. Yes, we need some public videos on one nation. Doctor of philosophy Joanna Howe just did an 'exclusive' interview with Pauline and o couldn't even finish it. Was good to see them getting pilloried on X, but the comments on YouTube make them sound like front line Heroes taking on the axis of evil single handedly.

I am a member of the Australian Democrats as I am a believer in consensus government that makes decisions that benefit all Australians, not just the wealthy. I am 59 and I think that Australian governments more fairly distributed the nation's wealth and were less corrupt when there was a strong Australian Democrat presence in parliament. I don't believe having a strong presence like AD was the only thing that get politicians more honest, but I do think the AD shone a light on bad behaviour in politics; and resulted in more open and transparent governance.

I went to a One Nation meeting for a new branch in a blue ribbon seat. I went to support a friend who wanted to become more politically active. No really. The ON originals were there, but happily welcoming more of the same, plus a relatively large number of Liberal defectors who are seeing ON as a place to be effective. Being a follower of Susssssan Ley must feel like being a follower of a wet sock. I can definitely see ON getting senators in the next election because of this, and the Reinhart money. They've found at least a couple of people who are being strict on process and infrastructure. Yes, they're already running into big tent problems of trying to accommodate facebook anti-vaxxers, libertarians angry at dark woke for ruining Star Trek, immigrants against further immigration, and people who 'find being welcomed to their own country offensive', but it's an alliance of sorts. Gina won't vote for them, but she'll bankroll them because she's into convincing turkeys to vote for christmas. If there are a few of them in the upper or lower house, they can be pushed around by Liberal operators and loyalty network folk who know what they're doing.

Can you do a deep dive into palantir and their involvement with the Aus Gov.

I really enjoy these videos Jordan, logical thinking about the logistics of the political engine rather than sensationalist emotional click bait articles that you see on media websites.

The right side of politics has become to unhinged and divorced from reality, probably a large part fuelled by the SkyNews echo chamber. They have lost the comprehension that in democracy you need compromise, and also the vast majority of the electorate will never accept their unadulterated demands. They prefer the grandstanding on principles/values over practical outcomes, or are so deluded to think that they have the numbers or can persuade people to build the numbers to support their cause. Because of this ideological purism, they will make the Coalition an ungovernable force until their ideology is defeated or becomes obsolete i.e. until the renewables transition is complete. Honestly the best thing for the ALP would be to moderately drag out the climate transition because it would just keep the right infighting longer and longer 🤣

I tend to agree, One Nation doesn't have the brains or a broad enough potential base to build a governing coalition from. It's not to say you can't get people like Steve Bannon (or Farage) who have the brains to make a MAGA type movement become more organised and gain more traction. But the problem is in Aus there is a ceiling to it. Rural capital interests are not enough, especially if they are in conflict urban capital interests. For now these interests seem irreconcilable for purely ideological almost religious like beliefs about climate (in)action. The other issue is even with the migrant stuff, the Libs struggle with the same issue. In theory, a lot of migrants could support more restrictive or lower immigration. In practice, articulating a nuanced narrative that appeals to them becomes too difficult when you are also trying to appeal to ON type voters. The Libs can't even get the Indian vote and they're the most culturally aligned demographic! They can't seem to win over the ON voters who want less migrants and more values based migration, or the migrants themselves who might be okay with a technocratic focus on numbers (mind you lower immigration in either case pisses off business but they might tolerate it).

Let the enemy fight themselves, why not?

Dominated by Murdoch media since 1960s, the politicians of the right have treated all their constituents as idiots. As Murdoch media treats all its audience as idiots. Pauline Hanson is a clown, it would be nice if someone could point out what one nation has done for its constituents? Or for Australia? One nation is a side-show of ridiculous ness that the taxpayers are funding. Integrity is lost on the right. We don’t want the circus . We want good govenors that’s all . It’s not a beauty contest, it’s our lives and families that matter. The more these fascists spew out their diatribe, dumbing down the really important issues while scamming taxpayers, the less people are engaged with what really matters to them.

“Let’s talk about one nation” Spends the opening ragging on the Greens (they deserve it) 😂

98 Qld Election Got double digit seats Got wiped out after 1 election

I think this is a concern. Recently Labor has been able to do well enough in a state that the senate elects 3 ALP, 2 LNP, and 1 GRN. When One Nation is in play that extra seat goes to One Nation. For the 2028 election I think the carryover seats from Labor will get them a majority when combined with the Greens, but if in 2031 One Nation consistently polls above 17% in all states then Labor + the Greens probably won't be able to pass much and we'll be left with the Labor + Coalition bills.

Makes me wonder if we should be looking more closely at any new parties with competent people that pop up in the next election looking to take advantage of the drop in libs support

I think that if One Nation gets bigger, it’s going to get factionalised like any group in politics. Those factions I have no idea how it would pan out but I’d find it very funny to describe someone to be a One Nation woke lefty.

Live out in nationals heartland and from what I keep hearing the nationals are probably the most worried about one nation as lots of people around here are going stuff the nationals iam going to vote one nation

The people I see supporting One Nation the most are those who solely care about the most polarizing political topics and things that can be perceived as a threat to their freedom . I'll often hear them speaking strongly about gun control, being "welcomed to their own country", gender politics, lowering speed limits "for revenue raising and control", lack of free speech, "too many Indians at the shops" etc... Pretty much all topics that are relatively easy to understand that from certain (often skewed) perspectives can be quite alarming. In the current landscape it'd only be natural for a conservative with such political tunnel vision to see One Nation as the answer.

Would love a story on Adelaide Writers week. Something really fishy going on there

Splitting the conservative vote will be some of Pauline's finest work

Off the back of someone else’s comment about Advance and the increase in citings with Gina, my concern is if someone like Advance or another right-wing lobby and advertiser gets behind them and gives them a megaphone, they might get some coherent political campaigning and messaging behind them that ends up attracting many of the apathetic only-vote-coz-I-have-to crowd. That said there’s a large chunk of them that have surface-level understanding of Pauline that deters them from voting for One Nation.

LNP DLP MOMENT

Like being king of the shithole, one nation is king of the right wing loons.

I’m not worried. I see One Nation going down a VERY similar path to Reform UK. Sudden massive rise, and then they can’t help but be their natural selves. Even fucking Paul Murray said it best; “One Nation continues to surge in the polls, but the total right wing of the pie has shrunk.”

The Australian conservatives will be an unpredictable mess, that wont change for a while. Whether Labor can continue albos ethos of stability and consistent positive trajectory onto a lineage of leaders is the real uncertainty.

I had to close my eyes and listen, I was too distracted by the glitter speck on the right cheek... Who's stag party?

one nation seems to have convinced the donkey voters

Great insight Jordan.

I do worry about certain outer suburbs areas going towards One Nation. I remember door knocking in an area that's relatively close to the city and was certainly not a poor neighbourhood, very quiet honestly, and I had several voters say they were considering One Nation. If they just go for Liberal voters then great but if they go after more traditional Labor voting areas then there may be an issue.

Yeah I made a video about them recently, about them voting against same job same pay laws in relation to coalminers and for some reason not even that works with them. I got a whole bunch of comments saying. “ I’m still voting for her”

One Nation have always been the Liberals megaphone for the views they share but the latter doesn't want to say out loud as it'll poison their electoral chances at elections

It's fascinating watching Advance talk up Labor on the "backflip" on the hate speech legislation as a win. They're getting Greens positions, the dead opposite of the LNP position and making it a... win for the Pauline Hanson type, who, instead of wanting to axe hate speech laws, likely want them to just be able to do the same post September 11 2001 type talk. Even with peek 2001 talk, PHON didn't poll so well, so ... But there was no Advance to make everything seems like a win for the lazy PHON protest view

Video about one nation; starts talking shit about the greens. Why I love this cunt