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I think everytime Thomas’ face twitched, reality shifted. Otherwise there’s no need to keep including him doing that. And everytime he did that lil twitch Eve lost some sense of her reality, whether it be the dumb waiter or the cellphones. He does it again right before he hands her the Lockett. But all in all great story

I actually like this story more than the coat rack one

I like the name symbolism. Eve is the first woman, the original. And Charlie Bastion, like she’s the last bastion or last hope for remembering Eve.

Only thing I don't really like about this story is the Morse code stuff. I just don't feel like it adds anything and it doesn't connect with the rest of the story. The final finished phrase doesn't deliver anything for me. The rest slaps though.

i’m only 1h20m in so far and man i’d love to see a film adaptation of this

Did anyone else notice how in the picture of Eve in the locket she was doing the same thing as the Peakaboo Girl? She was covering her face...

I think the locket is Thomas throwing a final jab at Eve but it’s definitely left ambiguous to further discussion

I’d love to hear more of this author or even reviews of his stuff with my work and life I can’t dive as deep into him as I want

I bought it after the coatrack story. Just finished it and I am looking forward to listening to it narrated by CreepCast now heheheheh. Waited to watch this until after I read the book.

You bitches better go buy the book if you liked this version because it absolutely fucks. Can’t wait to read more from this man’s demented little mind 🖤

In witchcraft there is a ritual called Fate Swap. Maybe that’s what they did?

Such a great slow burn in this, I was clapping my feet by the time Eve was fighting back. It's always great when a story makes the guys theorise to the point of not knowing what's happening anymore; makes the Shutter Island comment at the beginning even better too.. I'm gonna need a nice, quaint IKEA shelf for all these books I'm ordering dude.

People will probably disagree with me but I found this story so annoying from the standpoint that I never would have put up with someone coming in my house in the first place let alone let them stay and make themselves at home. All the excuses and lingering from Thomas and his family just frustrated the hell out of me.

Welp time to read the book

Stories like these make me feel like we had home dinners for the past two weeks and my mom finally says, "You know what? Let's order some take out." I live for these moments

The way Thomas and Page are described eating is so menacing for some reason

HUNTER COME ON…i hate that the book was so much more clear about eve NOT being crazy and people still didn’t get it

Just finished the book after watching this episode a couple weeks ago and I gotta say I’d love a book club type discussion episode

Yall gotta really get into uketsu

Marcus Kliewer has been my favorite author since I first read the book adaptation of this story earlier this year. Anyone who enjoys this I 100% recommend the book itself or even the audio book which is also amazing. The neighbor part in the book is so cool and fun I wish I could experience for the first time again!!!

Would you guys genuinely read a full book on here? Is that something yall are trying to do or no? And if so why haven’t you guys read a book yet? I would absolutely love to hear a book read from you guys. I’ve been fallowing the both of you since Ted the caver and creep cast wasn’t even a thing yet. I am beyond ready for some books to be read. Anyway Thankyou both for y’all’s videos it helps me get through the days❤️❤️❤️

That fuckass filter you used for abbys dialogue made it impossible to understand her

Does anyone else wonder what gets left in the Patreon episodes and cut out of the regular episodes or is it just me?

I’m with Isaiah because if Thomas is a real person that genuinely believes his sister is delusional. Why give her the locket? Even if Eve had put it in the locket herself and tricked herself into thinking she was in a relationship with Charlie, you wouldn’t give that to her because it would only serve to reinforce the delusion. And the face twitch, every time Thomas’ happy facade almost slips they include that detail. That definitely puts me in the camp of Eve not being crazy.

This Appalachian boy and his damn leaves

Just read the book with my wife, excited to hear the boys theories about this one

2:37:33 the "name things you see/smell" is a popular grounding technique for anxiety called the 5-4-3-2-1 method. 5 things you see, 4 things you feel, 3 things you hear, 2 things you smell, 1 thing you taste. It's basically used to stop your brain from racing and make you focus on the things around you. You see Chuck from Better Call Saul use it in some episodes.

I agree with the theory that she is crazy

These stories always make me so frustrated. When characters act stupid the whole time or make bad decisions the whole time because the story has to happen. You have to make it more believable cuz it just makes it so annoying that these characters are going through it because it was preventable. And I feel less attachment to them because they don't feel like real people.

Definitely have to go team Isaiah on this one folks. I think the early paragraphs just make far more sense if the house bent reality to swap Eve with Abigail. Go team Evengelical.

FUCK I JUST GOT IT ITS A HALFWAY HOUSE METAPHOR

I agree with Hunter!! I got more of a shutter island vibe! Although, I was with Isaiah until the end!

Gotta be so real, Hunter’s take on this story sucks lol. For one, too many other elements of the story point to Thomas being supernatural for it to be pure delusion, not to mention Charlie’s locket at the end. If that is the real ending then the story sucks because it just throws out a bunch of elements that mean nothing in the end with Abby in the basement, the paintings, the journal, etc. There have been some good stories with that kind of “narrator is insane” rugpull, but to me it’s just a total cop-out.

Team Eve

Is anyone else blown away about the massive conclusion that Hunter and Isaiah make of stuff they mis remember /mis read lol it’s always so funny listening to Isaiah make this big guess of a sentence he mis reads and Hunter too love these guys

Ugh good god if you ever get to read books this makes me want you to check out The Devil In Silver. Fantastic book imo that reminds me a lot of this

And this is why you always have a gun people! Those stair go a-slamming and I go a-blammin just blasting holes all through out the attic

I definitely would be down

Isaiah matches the chair.

Life pro tip: my husband and I are happily married and slept in different beds in different rooms since before we were married bc bro has sleep apnea (better than his snoring pre-CPAP), is a heavy sleeper, and moves around so much in his sleep, while I’m a light sleeper and have difficulty falling asleep (initially and whenever I’m woken up in the middle of the night). I also have mental health issues that are WAY worse when I’m deprived of sleep, so we figured out early on that sleeping in the same bed wasn’t gonna work. We still cuddle together in bed before going to sleep, but when it’s sleep time, we say goodnight and hug and go to our own beds. Honestly has made our relationship healthier bc I’m not constantly mentally unstable from sleep deprivation, and he’s not accidentally hitting and kicking me at night.

Hunter have you watched Rose Red? Super spooky house vibes

"If we were gay together..." Wait, you're not gay together? Well, boy, is my face red. I've misread this entire situation.

This story is kind of like a supernatural version of Speak No Evil (at least, it reminds me of that)

I find I’m a lot more generous with my personal safety and a lot less generous with my families.

did anyone else get an evil dead vibe from this in the later half?

If done well, this would make a really good horror movie

I would kill if they started a creepcast book club or just book rec list they release since they have so many books they haven’t been able to read here yet

As someone who's wife has a degree in psychology, and has had many discussion about psychosis and the like - I have some thoughts on this one for sure. But for the same of not leaving a novel here...I firmly believe Hunter is right on the conclusion here. And there is a lot of evidence all throughout the story to support that opinion. Evidence based on what appears to be an author who did his homework on psychosis in general.

Is it possible you guys could interview Marcus Kliewer? Hoping Marcus Kliewer would be down. Listening to the man in the basement story was such an awesome story! It made me buy We Used to Live Here and The Caretaker. Only started reading the Caretaker. Keep up your great work!

I’m on team Eve, I’m an Eve truther

Book purchased!

I’m leaning towards hunters explanation because of the phone call Charlie answers at the store. If Eve is just crazy, and it’s like Charlie’s day off that dialogue suddenly makes a lot more sense.

This is great

Ignore Social Pressure: A Cautionary Tale

I'm with Wendi on this one I don't think she's like insane I think she got flipped

i imagined the basement as the abandoned part of smiling friends building

New to Patreon….love you guys

This is so good!

Not only would all in the layhead ending be so so crap after all of that because it it ends up removing all weight from the story. It also just doesn't make sense. The entire story has evidence dropped across it that all of this is really happening, especially at the end where he's effectively tormenting her by giving her the locket showing. Yes, it all really did happen and there's nothing you can do about it and no one will ever believe you. The fact that Hunter and the others are siding with Thomas and is clearly temporal controlling family is insane to me

Isaiah is going on set at the House of Leaves, you heard it here first

Halfway through I had an idea of this being barbarian but they’re gaslighting this poor woman to think abbeys a ghost

The is story is awesome. Can't wait to see what is up next week (hoping for The Neverglades Mysteries)

My favorite stories were penpal and stolen tongues, it is now penpal and we used to live here. This story is incredible!

Fantastic story

For once taking Isiah’s side here

I wish they had a place to post stories that arent on reddit. Some of us are BANNED.

Came here to say that I bought the book specifically because of this episode. Its coming today and im excited

I want to point out that Paige was wearing the locker before she died and said she got it from the store, then at the end Thomas gives it to eve and her picture with Charlie is in there

After the CreepCast episode I bought and read both of his books. There's a major divide between those who prefer this story and those who prefer The Caretaker - I personally prefer the latter but enjoyed comparing them,, hope to see you guys cover that story next at some point 🙂‍↕️

Whaddup my skibidi rizzlers

When she saw Abigail in the beginning Abigail had her hands covering her face and Eves only picture she is covering her face in the end

I can’t wait for my copy to come in not gonna lie

Can y'all please read the rest of Stolen Tongues? And all the other stories you started but didn't finish?

I keep getting got by the knocking door sound lol

Thomas whispering to Jenny "I thought this was what you wanted" - because the kids want to get to know their aunt. But now Jenny is scared, and like Hunter said, hiding from her aunt in the family home. So, Thomas says he didn't see her, so she can be left alone to hide a bit locker and to not draw her aunts attention to her hiding (like he is thinking of the kid and also of trying to not hurt eve/abby's feelings.)

You know at thats point if you guys can get permission to read house of leaves that would go so hard as a long episode. I love that book I know Isaiah read it but I would love to see hunters reaction and thoughts

Wendigoon white knighting again #standwithHunter

i bought this on audible the day after the first story was posted. fastest i’ve ever gone through a book on there. i love this so much

Eve was right

Eve all the way!

Id love a book club like every other month or so

Notice the tie between "Eve" covering her face in the only picture, and how Abby was covering her face until her delusion comes out at the end. The way Abby is writing at the end is so accurate for people struggling with delusions. When I was listening, I immediately saw the numbered basement doors as mental institute doors slipping back into Abby's consciousness.

Hunter with the crowbar in the roof of the mouth was such a biblical bear trap and nobody acknowledged it

This episode is just making fun of southern hospitality, lmao

48:50 I'd be the same way 😭 I need someone there who can say no for me cause I'm just a pushover

I hope yall read the actual novel so we can see the actual comparison between the two… same for “Stolen Tongues”

I respect other's viewpoints on these stories... but why does Hunter ALWAYS think every story is a psychotic episode of the main character? My thoughts were a lot closer to Isiah's personally. Except I dont think the house is supernatural, just the entity that is in Thomas. But maybe I am having a psychotic episode. :)

If creepcast had an hr department. I wonder how many violations Papa Meat would get lol

Evangelicals, unite!

This author is insanely talented! Can't wait to buy the book and see what else he has worked on.

I would've started stabbing people if I was Eve when she saw the necklace.

This story was an absolute BANGER I love how you could spin both interpretations of Isaiah and Hunters thoughts on the ending definitely hanging up the jersey on this one!

Damn, this was one of my favorite stories on the podcast. The audiobook is about 10 hours long, so I'm really excited to hear all the added material

Looks like Hunter is gonna be the skin lamp now. Tables and turning and all that

Thomas FOSTER. This old 50’s family couldn’t have a son after Abi, so they adopted him or fostered him. Maybe that’s how he got let in to the house to begin with. Abi sensed it just like Jenny did. She died in the house, ants consuming her body and she became a twisted piece of it. But like Thomas, because she’s been there so long, she learned to manipulate it. She switched Eve and herself because Eve had what she wanted. My opinion.

“I’m bewildered”😂

Wait HOLD. Isaiah said he’d hire different contractors to make a weird house…someone already did that Isaiah. H H HOLMES.

Not completely through this episode at the time of this comment but God this story is so good at making you feel anxious, like the phone not working or Charlie not answering immediately

Maybe in her mind, the reason she made up this idea where she's a different person named Eve is because she wants to believe that she's not the same person who killed her sister in law and ruined her life. So her mind conjures an illusion where Abigail gets to go off into the woods happy while she lives on as a different person. Just a theory though.

“I’m bewildered” is my new fav sound bite

Can’t side with hunter on this one, there’s no chance that she was hallucinating and having a psychosis episode. All her memories and all the events throughout the story would have to be ridiculously elaborate for her recollection of events to be as consistent as they are.

It's nice that they gave Hunter a desk so we don't have to see him pitching a tent every time he gets started on raspberries and belly kisses.

I used to live in Wendi's walls

Really enjoy Harry chiming in with some of his thoughts, it's just another perspective on the story that helps meld Hunter's and Isaiah's in a fun cohesive way 💚💚💚

11 minutes in and 2 hours in. Calling it, they’re vampires

Can we get an actual string up in the studio of all the greatest hits like the Jersey number thing.

I do agree with Isaiah about the ending, despite his many, many, MANY flaws. But it's not about time, it's just about reality bending.

It's been about a year since I read that book. I'm now confused as ever 😂 i think I need to crack that book back open and read it again after listening to the reddit version 👀

Abigail is also always hiding her face like the photo in the locket.

Isaiah "House of Leaves" Nichols

Fuck this ending in the best way possible

I’m sorry but if I were eve the second I knew something happened to Charlie Thomas would have fucking bites taken out of him and his eye balls would be applesauce okay I don’t fucking play with this shit. Shoulda killed him when she had the chance get house cucked

Not sure if this will be a valid bear trap but when you started hypothesizing that charlie was not real, a representation of Eve's subconscious or a figment of her imagination i thought of when she woke up for breakfast immediately. Thomas had asked "Who?" he brought up her going to the store so im not positive this will turn out to be true or not. Just an interesting thought i had and wanted to share.

So, I live on a rural property. We have had an unreasonable amount of people open our gate (which has private property signs all over it), drive onto our property and start wandering around. And then we just see random people wandering around our property checking it out casually. Becuase it is rural the "front" of the house is not necessarily obvious. So we ALSO had random people just turn up on our back porch calling out to us. Nearly all these people say they used to live here, and so wanted to look around now. Next to our drive way is the neighbours drive way that has a lot 1 and lot 2 split. We would constantly get people driving down OUR drive way to ask which one of the lots so-and-so lives at. Instead of picking the 50/50, where if they are wrong the neighbour will point them right... they just drive onto a property that has nothing to do with it, and where they know it will be the wrong property. Its wild how confidently people do this kind of thing. For logistical reasons we could never put a proper lock the gate. We did have a gate that is like four moving parts to open, so people would really have to think about what they were doing. But that did not deter them I guess. After an escalation of these types of events, we got a system in place that basically looks like the gate has a chain and padlock wrapped around it. So far this seems to have worked. But my god.

Taking a shot every time Isaiah says “house of leaves”

This story was awesome! Bought the audio book, got the caretaker aswell 🔥🔥

This fucking pissed me of much, fuck this eldritch asshole. Ruining a life in this way, it hurts so much

What an incredible story, this writer is quickly becoming one of my favorites.

THIS WAS INCREDIBLE

Recommendation: I rewatched my Shaye St John dvd today and thought, if you wanna watch some odd stuff (I'd say creepy at least, terrifying to some) do a blind watch of all of their vids (the guy behind it also was part of I feel fantastic). Someone's gotta keep bringing Eric back to the foreground, RIP, you were a good friend. Edit: or Allan Tutorial

It’s a great story, but honestly I prefer the book because (no spoilers) it vastly expands the setting without being cheesy

I just finished the book and oh boy. The version they read here i think is the better version. He added some good stuff and ideas but he really ruins the whole "She could be crazy, or it could be supernatural" Its straight up supernatural houses across the country.

So this ripped

Eve was doing the peek-a-boo hands in her only known picture

I don’t think Isaiah is crazy but I’m leaning towards hurters interpretation

(Spoilers) So I think the internet version that they read is leaning more toward Eve being Abigail the entire time and the story is a warped version of what actually happened. But, from what they were talking about from the book it seems that version is more likely a little more into the supernatural.

I liked this better than the book. Not sure if it’s the story or the narrators. You guys should consider reading this for audible!

We used to live here, we still do, but we used to, too.

God I love when they read really good stories

I’m really having a hard time seeing where Isiah is coming from on this story. To me it just reads so much better if it is from the perspective of an insane person rather than “unknown entity”/Thomas. That’s what’s cool about horror though. Everyone has different perspectives and interpretations.

I think Hunter should watch season 1 ep 11 of twilight zone and see if that changes his mind

I read The Caretaker and the whole time I thought ''wow, this would be a pretty good CreepCast episode''. So I hope... I hope....!!

I’m Thinking Of Ending Things was such a good story, and the beginning of this story definitely reminded me of it. If you haven’t read it, I suggest reading it before watching the movie. The movie doesn’t do the story justice in my opinion. Still a good watch though.

It says that on Amazon Marcus is making a Netflix movie If that's true then good for him

Anyone else see “Abigail” like “the girl” from RE9?

Can you guys PLEASEEEE consider reading The Black Farm. I thought Feed the Pig was amazing but nothing to write home about, however, the novel is SOMETHING TO CALL HOME ABOUT. It’s soooo good and yearnful and desperate and fucking terrifying. Please just consider it! Love you guys ❤️

Leave it to reddit to block someone from their own story

GAH DAMN THIS IS A BANGER

Saved this for my 3 hr flight and it did not disappoint

wow this story was really good.

I’m 40minutes in but this seems like a banger

immediately bought the book based on the ending and it was surprising amount of bear traps hunter dropped like “what about a crowbar through the roof of your mouth” and then eve tears thomas’ jaw off, im DIVING into this authors work for sure so inspiring might even write something due to this guys stories, i loved the thing in my basement it’s a close second to mother horse eyes for me

please read There Is No Antimemetics Division and Basilisk they are right up the alley of this story

2 hours in and this reminds me of the train station story

First male listener here am I welcome

Im with hunter on this, this definitely was her psychological breakdown and the peppering of real events within her delusion

Man I really liked this story the author is one of my favorites of the show he always does good stories

Eve truther here... I feel like even if she was experiencing psychosis, Thomas still plays way too weird of a role in the story. To me, he clearly knows something and is gaslighting Eve.

[Spoilers] Thomas coming back to visit her at the end was definitely him trying to goat her into attacking him and therefore getting her probation revoked, imo. Even if you're on the boat that he was actually her brother and was genuinely concerned for her/cared about her... why, then, would he bring her the locket? If she were actually a criminally insane mental patient, that would be undoubtedly triggering for her and more likely to send her into some kind of mental breakdown rather than provide any sort of comfort.

This was an amazing story 🤙🏽

Such a cool story. Love that it can leave you with both conclusions. I was leaning with hunter and maybe still am. That all this is just someone's insane mind is such a cool idea but the locket at the end makes me want to go back to a supernatural element. Its not far fetched to think that a sponsor could have taken a photo of you and give you a locket so you can remind yourself what you look like happy But it was definitely put in the story to make us wonder if it was all real. Im still leaning more on the insanity side. Main reason is the little girl hiding in a strangers house and everyone just being chill with that Is just too strange. It would make more sense if she was hiding in her own house. But idk what an awesome story. The fact it split the hosts like this couldn't be better.

Hunter is right

Gotta go meet the ceo and president of the bank I work at tmmr.. but tonight we creep

I'm halfway done with the published novel already lol

EVE-angelicals unite, Homegirl is not crazy 😤

I've been milking this story for the last three daaaaaze....

PLEASE POST A PATREON VIDEO OF Y'ALL DISCUSSING THE BOOK I AM BEGGING YOU! ITS SO GOOD!

Half way thru and I am 100% convinced Eve is dead. Her and Charlie were murdered there or something like 6 months ago, and Eve is realizing she's in the undead time loop. Or smth idk

Could we PLEASE get a video of you two going through a horror-themed escape room

I loved the story. ❤️ 🥰🥰 Im looking forward to reading this book as well. I love stories like this. It reminds me of the movies , A Cure For Wellness and Stephen King's Rose Red. It also made me think of the book Shirley Jackson the haunting of Hill House.

After seeing Isiah’s wife. Her asking him “does that make your pussy wet?” Hits so much harder. 😂😂

I loved both stories by this author I did notice something about both stories in this one the protag was talking about Thomas bending reality around her like a wire and then in the coat rack story either Paul or Mitch says the same thing that the imposter bent reality around them like a wire small little details like that made me love it even more

i studied trauma therapy, and the 3 things you can see, and smell and touch. that is a very common calming strategy

Definitely picking up the book

The whole last 10 minutes I was like wow this is very similar in premise to fight club I'm surprised they haven't linked the two and then Isaiah says "her name was eve palmer, say it and remember it" and I start chanting HIS NAME IS ROBERT PAULSON, HIS NAME IS ROBERT PAULSON 🤣🤣

Isaiah is susceptible to evil people. Hunter is susceptible to unfathomable malevolent time-bending entities. That's what makes them such a good couple. 💛 Eveangelicals RISE UP!!

Towards the end of this episode, during the discussion portion, specifically about the photo portraying Eve. Her hand blocks her face, similarly to how Abigail covered her own with the peekaboo hands. Until I connected the hands covering both faced, I was completely in agreeance with Isaiah, but now, I could be convinced of Hunters POV. Incredible story. Running to purchase the physical book.

I don’t know why I never watch the Patreon versions of videos, but I didn’t realize the lil Patreon censoring was ACTUALLY uncensored here. I’ll be here much more often now

Seven brothers. Time to clock in

I'm an eve-truther. I think if the writer wanted to portray eve as imagining everything I don't think they would have included the locket at the end with her picture inside. Or thomas could have said "it seemed very important to you" instead of "you and charlie" In a way, it's like he's acknowledging their relationship goes beyond being her supporter for a few months. However, maybe the ending has changed a lot in the actual book to lead readers a different way

I mean, wasn’t Abigail first introduced with a face hidden behind peekaboo hand, so wouldn’t the locket just be them confirming that she actually is Abigail

Pleas do a book discussion that would be awesome. A monthly book club type podcast would be sick

Anyone read sour candy by Kealan Patrick Burke? The progression of reality unfurling is pretty similar. I think the boys would enjoy it

Incredibly based and wifepilled to choose Allison over baby modine Like I get it

She could just be a skitzo

Holy shit, this book is available and even translated in my country, I'm gonna cry I'm so happy

I just bought they book verison! i’m so excited. I hope to buy his other books too. this story was INCREDIBLE

I finally finished this podcast and immediately bought my copy. Thanks guys.

12:45 does seem like most reddit stories have this dynamic lol

Such a good episode didn’t even feel like 3 hours

After listening to this a 2nd time, something I always do with psychological thrillers like these, I am on team she’s Abby and she’s crazy, there’s so many hints of it throughout the story that you miss if you’re not thinking about it. What I think is happening is maybe her and Charlie were previously dating and then as “eves” disorder gets worse Charlies role switched to more of a caretaker, or Eve has made the whole relationship up in her head which is also plausible bc of how Eve described charlie to be not that affectionate and they never do any thing relationship wise like kiss, maybe sleeping in the same bed, which is why I feel they might’ve previously been together but Charlie has fallen out of it. The house “changing” is just the MCs lapse of memory, she’s an unreliable narrator and her memories are confusing her potentially. Tom mentioned in the beginning when Abby and him were kids she had completely forgotten faces, forgetting her family and believing they were strangers so it would make sense she didn’t recognize tom. I agree with hunters take the in and out of psych wards goes along w in and out of houses they’re supposedly flipping. Tom and his family probably came to visit her as she had just gotten out of the ward into their childhood home. The facade and his little flickers of frustration are genuine, he’s upset his sister doesn’t remember him but he’s trying to play along with her facade to not aggravate her. The young girls sad look when they were supposed to leave was probably just being sad her aunt doesn’t know who she is. Visions of Abby walking around could very well be hallucinations of herself, we never get a description of Eve unless I missed it. When you’re delusional everything can be fitted very nicely into your delusions if wanted so I could totally see her making everything just seem the way the story goes bc of self affirmation. She dropped out of art school, the painting that’s mysteriously hung over the fireplace is “oddly familiar” bc she painted it and just can’t remember. She really did kill her brothers wife and Charlie won’t answer her bc that was the last straw and she won’t be involved with her anymore, potentially staying out of previous love and care even as eves state declined more, murder was just too much for her and she bailed.

Heritage Lane can be traced to an assisted living location based in arizona. Heritage Lane Behavioral Assisted Living is a facility that provides health care and support for individuals with sever mental illnesses.

fucking banger

I'm 👄💅bewildered💅👄

I love when they have different takes on the same story. I think I'm siding with Hunter, but now I'm definitely going to get the book to see how it's different!

I read a book when I was younger that was just like this, but she was trapped in an insane asylum trying to convince everyone she didn’t belong there.

I think it’s a stretch to think Thomas is a reality warping entity. This story reminds me of the movie The Father, which follows the life of an unreliable narrator with dementia

Morse code leans pretty heavily that Abigail did in fact escape into the woods, and isn't part of the narrative of the story as it's outside the first person perspective, so I think eve was in fact shifted into a different universe, it's also how his other story worked.

Hunters analysis is blatantly wrong, Eve wasn’t crazy in the end of the story, or any of it. Eve and Abigail are switching spots timey wimey bullshit. It’s very obvious

If you like this weird house stuff there’s a segment from an anthology film that predates House of Leaves by 10 years. It’s called “ the Ferguson case” segment of the anthology film “ the forbidden files” (1989). It’s about a news crew who investigates a complaint at a house, but when they get inside, the house never ends as they continue down a hallway further and further not being able to turn back really cool and way ahead of its time!

At the very end eve covering her face just makes me think she’s Abigail even more since Abby covered her face

Nothing like watching this in my beautiful abandoned apartment complex.

There are very few episodes that are able to get an emotional reaction out of me the way this one did.. looking for those reactions is why I’ve been listening since the very beginning

Off the top of my head 1. Penpal 2.LRG 3.Borrasca 4-6 Dead girl, Basement takes one step, WUTLH 7.MHE Probably would be way different if I took the time to chart every single episode but those are what come to mind

When Hunter does his voices in a whisper/slightly quiet, is there a way you could boost it? I work with loud equipment all day and enjoy listening to these stories while working, but I genuinely cannot hear Hunter sometimes. I'm also not able to micromanage the volume on my phone, so I'll turn it up to hear Hunter, then get my ears blasted my Isaiah speaking at a normal volume

i can feel the homoeroticism oozing out of this episode

By far my favorite story in a hot minute, I’d agree I think this has to be around top 5 on the channel. Off the dome for me top 5 is gonna be Penpal, Borrasca, Mother horse eyes, Spire in the woods, and this one. Could definitely be forgetting some other top tier stories

Just wanted to leave a comment and say Im not sure about everyone else but I love when the other guys in the studio like harry and nick chime in during discussion time

Idk if people realize how impressive it is that two guys reading this at the exact same time giving reactions together can have completely different interpretations of reality… in the exact way the story intends it to be done. Just absolutely fucking remarkable. An easy top 10 best written story in creepcast history, probably top 3-5. This author is a fucking genius man

Came here to say I just picked up the book :) Can't wait to see how the book expands upon this heater of an episode

Hunters crowbar to the roof of mouth bit great foreshadowing on the second listen

Incredibly cliche and disappointing ending, hope the book is a lot different

I'm with Wendi I think it's supernatural rather than psychological

Yeah I'm mr goon's side on the end

I’m back to work today after my honeymoon & this is getting me through the day

Definitely on Hunters side about the meaning of it

day one of asking them to read the book “the troop” by nick cutter as bonus episodes for patreon and then compile them for a full video on youtube 🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️

The Gooner-Meat Civil War (2026)

2:27:30 this entire description reads like a Junji Ito story I LOVE it

I know they like to read stuff blind, but when it comes to the end interpretation and commentary i really wish they'd research if it's a single standalone or a connected universe. This is the second time that they miss larger context because of that. Standalone it works as a maybe Shutter Island but all the author's works are tied and all about multiple realities.

This is one of the funniest fucking episodes in a long time bro 52:05 “I gotta take his ass to pound town” fucking killed me

I wish I loved anything as much as Wendi loves his time theory

I absolutely love the different takes the guys have on this story. I really love a story that makes you question the narrator and this one does it so well.

I want know hunters and Isaiah’s thoughts on wwz, it certainly wouldn’t fit here as it’s not a creepypasta or scary story. But still

lost me in part 3 tbh, i’m not sure how I feel about this one

Really glad they came back to this author. His last story is the best modern creepcast episode imo

Awesome story 👍

Been subscribed for a while and usually just watch the bonus episodes here and normal episodes on Spotify. A new dawn, had to venture here for the truth of the matter at 52:00

I also run hot (except my feet are always freezing but I can’t sleep with socks on) and I have the windows and a fan blowing year round even winter but I also have a heating pad on my feet even in humid 95° summer. My husband, on the other hand, wears layers year round. He wears long johns 10 months out of the year and sleeps in footie onesies 😂

isaiah cuts hunter off sooooo many times this ep at the end 😭😭

Holy crud thats the best pasta Ive heard in years 😭😭

Interesting parallel at the end where the photo of her could be misconstrued as the peekaboo hand up

AHHHH!!!! this is the first time CC is covering a story I actually read. I'm so excited!!!!!

The way that I see this story is one of two ways. Option one is one where eve is someone suffering from psychosis where she has gaps in her memory where she fills in with her delusional narrative with Thomas being the one she blames in her narrative and uses to justify her action’s and viewpoints and the story shows her slow relapse. Option 2 is the supernatural angle but I believe the supernatural aspect isn’t Thomas rather it is the house itself and the events in the story is caused by the house where the house acts as a Rubik’s cube where eve enters the house and the house starts shifting reality where eve is the constant where the changes are slow but with enough shifts it becomes so different then when eve first entered and it finally stops shifting when eve is permanently removed from the house and put into the psych ward.

I'm surprised with how much Isaiah brings up house of leaves, that we hadn't that yet on any of his channels

Did no one else feel like it was weird he mentioned how she can get out because she’s been showing signs of being “better” then instantly sneak her in a gift he knows would make her react in a way that’ll keep her there longer? I think Isaiah might be on to something this time

I'm 99% sure it was supernatural, but I am 1% unsure. My issue with Hunter's take is that in Shutter Island, he does not have to imagine the psych ward, they place him in one. Eve has to imagine a psych ward is an entirely different building.

Only story I had to listen to twice in a row soo good 👍

What the fuck is up with the comments?

i wish they caught how the pose in the photo of eve was the same as the one abby was making throughout the house with the hands covering her face

Hunters interpretation is terrible. He totally missed the driving element of horror being the allegory for gaslighting. The fact that we’re left wondering if she really is crazy is what drives home the horror of somebody making you question your own sanity when you know better

Bro I need to watch that walkthrough video 😭😭

wait guys, this is a fking banger story. all is forgiven

I've read "we used to live here" 3x its great and he does have a theme in his books where you question the MC's sanity throughout which is fun. I wasn't as big of a fan of his other book but they both have their charm for sure. Super happy to see you guys cover this one

Can somebody help me figure out something I didn't realize discord we have a discord chat but if someone can help me get it id appreciate the help or who i need to email to get it, I've already listened to this episode 2 times through today and bought the book to compare differences

absolute banger

My dad and I are huge fans of this podcast, he bought me a copy of the book!❤️❤️❤️

Bro needs to house his leaves already

please read "the mall wont die alone" by travis brown. it gives me left right game vibes it is so good

Banger pleeease do a wendigoon vid lol

Evangelical here. A couple things here. 1. I love that hairy is more in the episode I know its probly only going to be the in person shows but its top tier. 2. I want to see all the crazy out of pocket things hunter says that they do cut. What they do show is allready wild. 3. I believe wendi is right its supernatural and Thomas is changing the world to fit HIS truth. We need to get more information from Abigail. 4. Im definitely getting the book i hope yall do make another video talking about the book later it's also on audible if your a trucker like me who can listen for than read.

I just bought the book because of this, can’t wait to come back and give my thoughts on who I may agree on cause right now I’m on Isaiah’s side.

Just bought the hardcover. This story was so well done I can't wait to check out the extended version. Author deserves all the hype coming their way from this. Hope to see them in the best sellers section soon from the fanbase helping them blow tf up

Pure Eve-angelical here. Down with the Tom-complices. Can’t wait to read the full book and be vindicated further

I think Hunter is right on this one. Isaiah is looking to much into in the story. Abby/Eve is the same person and going through a psychotic break.

Maybe I misunderstood but if Charlie is just a figment of her imagination then why does Thomas keep acknowledging Charlie as en existing person? Shouldn’t Eve be the only person who has any idea of “Charlie” ?

She just swapped lives with Abby. Eve is in a mental asylum now while Abby is stuck as a lesbian

This story was absolutely amazing but I neeeeeed wendigoon to make video about house of leaves, its the best book I've ever read and still have no idea what happened in it and I need iceberg boys expertise to dissect it.

I would love a house of leaves videos on the Wendi goon channel someday

Great story but super similar to the man in my basement themetically. Would’ve enjoyed a lot more if I hadn’t heard it before

just finished listening and am about to order the book. i just wanna say i am an EVEvangelical because its really hammered in that abigail is abnormally tall and eve is never described that way

Can't believe they didn't catch the foreshadow of Eve smudging the jaw of Thomas in the painting.

I definitely think Isaiah is right, when he gives the locket back he mentions that he knows it meant a lot to her and Charlie, also the wife had the locket before and why would she have a random picture of herself in the locker? Charlie took the picture of eve and put it inside the locket I think it was the wink moment when he gave it to her.

Bought the book. Fun story

I would 100% buy a wendigoon skin lampshade, thats just lips. new merch idea. think abt it

PLEASE PLEASE DO A FOLLOWUP EPISODE MY SMOOTH BRAIN NEEDS MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS BOOK

But think of all the Bic razor sponsorships if dads just got along

The locket with the photo charlie took of eve to me is the anchor the last piece of reality as it was before thomas showed up. There was a moving van out front why would that be there? (Unless devils advocate it was maybe eve/abby's moving into the house?? but that doesn't make sense) The "where are you going eve" is him reminding her just for his amusement since he knows he's already won. He knows his sister is free-- they definitely swapped that's why he just happened to be in town it wasn't for the kids) he figured out somehow how to get her back. Either that or thomas is just tied to the house and wants it back for himself. Or is tied to the land the forest itself. Its very full circle going back to the start him talking to abby in the basement "I thought you were on board/ just a little longer"--abby felt bad about the swap but in the end wanted the freedom she was long overdue. I love how ambiguious it is cause i can see hunters side too its crazy how well it works and I can't wait to see more of the houses history and iTS LIKE HOUSE OF LEAVES TOO IM HYPE

Dumbledor said calmly

Great episode! If it’s ever possible to read published books, I suggest Come Closer by Sara Gran. It also has a great unreliable narrator and the conflicting interpretations between mental illness vs supernatural possession.

I was also thinking shutter island throughout. I want to just listen to the whole thing again!

More gay stories please

fave story in a while, I feel like the whole thing is so carefully written that either perspective has merit. personally I agree with Hunter, lil diva is crazy

eve-angelicals stand up. warning, spoilers: this house is obviously some node in a network of different dimensions operated by thomas who trapped the real abigail in this hell, and was only allowed freedom once she found someone else to take her place. eve entering that room to escape abigail was her accidentally entering some new dimension, and each other door is a different dimension. justice for eve, she did nothing wrong!

Trying to listen to this show in public without giggling to yourself like an insane little school kid is diabolically difficult

I remember when I was a teenager, my mom painted our living room (including the brick fireplace) three slightly different shades of off-white. I have never been more disgusted in my life.

Isaiah's pants are making me laugh.

This shit is so tragic

The return of cuck canyon killer me

Easily one of the best

Hunter mentioned in the previous episode the new movie coming out, "Other Mommy," I IMPLORE you guys to read the book the movie's based on in your own time - Incidents Around the House. It's told through the perspective of a little girl. It's right up your guys' alley and is one of my favorite doppelgänger / mimic horror stories.

Man, I love that there’s two sides of the story and both of you chose the other. Honestly, listening to you talk and giving your thoughts has lead me to not know what to believe. Definitely ordering that book though.

I’m bewildered

Bought the audiobook, good movie publisher

This story is soo goddamn good. I am leaning towards Windigooner's interpretation of things but I need to read this book and see what gets added holy shit. There really is no shortage of good stories out there and more keep being made

hunters voice acting is kino... as usual. his yelling... 😩

Can anyone speak to how much the actual book expands on the story? Is the ending the same is there more?

At the 25 minute mark where the dad is calling for his daughter, I’m just picturing the famous Alec Baldwin phone call to his daughter. 🤣 “You ungrateful little piggy”

This story is so good I have so many questions, this is gonna be the first creepcast story im gonna buy i think. Genuinely it had me hooked the entire time, it never lost me like some stories do and I really wanna read more to see what other details are added into the full length story. Im so excited

NGL hunters interpretation of the ending really pissed me the frig off.

Can’t wait for goon lips house of leaves video

God DAMN this one was good. Holy schmoly

once again plugging the book mean spirited by nick roberts 🫶

PHENOMENAL story, i’m itching to read this novel and his other books. I’m team entity!!

Just ordered a copy of this book can’t wait!!! Edit: also I’m a eve truther

i think eve is real...but theres something more to flesh out with abigail rather than the house, possibly? i need the book!

Thomas is so played by Anthony Starr

Modern architecture is made to look entirely abhorrent just so its easier to OD on heroin inside them.

I cannot get over the fact that this author uses “and…” at every two sentences

i love listening to these while working, literally makes my day better

Isaiah I'm begging u to learn the difference between wary and weary

I feel like I'm having deja vu with this one. Did they read a similar story before with a family checking out a house? Maybe I just saw this elsewhere but I can't think of where.

I think Tom is some kind of evil entity because Abby said he came from before the trees were planted and he was painted later into the family portrait. I think he came to the original family's home and made them think he was their son and had been with them all along. Only Abby could see through what he was doing. That's why she wrote over and over that Tom was not her brother. Now he is doing it again, taking over the home again, and the only person whose mind he can't trick is made to look insane, just like Abby.

These guys constantly inspire me to write and create my own YouTube channel just for the sake of creating but my God I am so exhausted 😭 How does anyone do it lol

Hey Gettysburg is where I had my ghost encounter too!

"JENNYYYYYY" Hunter said calmly

Isaiah PLEASE do a full vid about the whole book

I'm full send with Isaiah and the Eve-angelists. Nearly every time Tom has an extended conversation with Eve there is some form of coercion and bid for submission "It'll only take us 10-15 minutes tops. Just listen to the doctor's Abby. We'll stay until the storm blows over" and yet every time Eve pushes back and Tom is the one to surrender there's the mention of the face twitch before he goes along with what Eve is saying. Even at the end with the final conversation in the psych ward she denies him and he cracks ever so slightly. Things only really hit the fan after Eve convinces herself to "play along for now" but every time she does reality slips further and further and the cracks in between grow fewer and thinner . She really gave in at the final dinner scene and everything after that was an absolute shit show and Eve lost 99% of her reality with only shards of what truly is shining through. She thought she could game the system to gain an advantage and that folly was her greatest slip, you cannot beat the greatest deceiver at his own game. Tom is 100% some ancient demon or similar evil force of deceit and every time you give in be it any way shape or form you lose a part of yourself you're likely to never get back.

Is there a Halloween creep cast live event? Of so where?

Damn dude, that ‘WE GAVE YOU EVERYTHING!’ From Hunter legitimately gave me chills. Bravo. What a fantastic story.

This table looks so good

This may be a Top 5 story ever on the show. I’m buying both books IMMEDIATELY

it would be awesome if harry could get his own bits like nick does on hunters channel. i like when he chimes in cuz it’s always a nice addition

The house isn't universally stable, the basement seems to be the breach point into different realities.

This is completely unrelated to the story, but if you guys ever do another Creepy pasta grab bag episode, I would love if you read Godzilla NES by Cosbydaf. The ending kinda sucks, but most of it is still pretty good

Man I love this story! I am buying the book. I need more from this story

You can tell the goon responds to the comments

I'm on Hunter's side here--I think Eve and Abigail are the same person.

I'm gonna need this link of the house walk through

Her name was Eve palmer

Definitely an all timer. Team Eve.

What a banger. Haven’t heard a story this good since the night Johnny stixx rocked the fuckin pit

*yawn* boring read (I bought the book, and The Caretaker)

I just finished this book the Friday before upload and loved it!

I haven't finished the video yet so forgive me if I repeat something they point out later. But the parallel of Abigail with the bloody hammer saying Charlie's still alive and she had to do it. Isn't that the same as Eve with the hammer with the still alive Thomas 👀 Also the little girl was reacting to the family like she also has no memory of the family. She didn't know what she did at school, she looked upset at the beginning and was hiding in the basement? She had to of been trying to escape and had the same thing happen to her that happened to Eve and had to give up and play along

My dad and I visited his home town to see my grandpa one more time before he passed this year. My dad drove me to his chilhood home and we saw the mighty oak trees that Dad's parents planted. They grew up poor without electricity beforehand. No one was home and he looked inside. All the stuff inside wasnt recognizable to him, but the walls, the floor, the doors. The framework was still an old home to him.

I like nick having more opinions during the story Would love to hear more occasional 3rd man imput

No fucking way so I’m only 23 minutes in when I went back home a couple of years ago I went back to my old house and got to look around the people where nice but I did the same thing I told them does anything happen here at night just trying to freak them out when I left the last thing I said to them was “if you see a fifth door don’t go in it” and walk away I scared the shit outta them does that make me an asshole yes but it was funny af

I don't think she's crazy, considering cell phones and what not. She seems to have memories of stuff from the future? The fosters and such are presented as being in the past idk. You also have paige begging Thomas to tell her the truth out of fear for her own life

I will be expecting a Isaiah lip lamp next merch drop

I think i know why the dumb waiter goes up to the attic.

very funny how in a story about interdimensional gaslighting, hunter falls for the gaslighting

Not sure if anyone already looked it up, but I just quick googled Heritage Lane and a mental health facility was the first result.

"Did you PUT YOUR NAME IN THE GOBLET OF FIRE!!!!!!" He asked calmly

Excellent Story, i need to get the book.

Holly shit this story is AMAZING. I am buying the book right away.

crazy how much the book improves on this

I have a toddler that does impromptu hide and seek, and by God I tell you she's real good at it.

9 minutes into the episode. Predicting vampires. Let's see if that's right.

I am like 87% sure this takes place within the same house of the coat rack story bcuz the main character in the coat rack story sees a glimpse of this as a “memory” or “vision” type deal while he goes crazy. I will definitely have to relisten to coat rack episode to check bcuz I MIGHT be making this up bcuz I am excited. Please someone confirm or correct me if you can remember this 😭🙏

Oh my god it’s everywhere , it’s so thick and it’s everywhere

Have you guys read House of Leaves? At this point if you haven’t I’d like to see what the hype is about

I think them reading this is a lot better then reading it myself. I found it to be a "house of leaves at home:" type story. Still think its like that. But definitely more entertaining listening

Would like to see you guys read Nick Lowe's Dagon's Daughter and Dagon's Beacon

Eve must be a goth baddie with how Isaiah is defending her

Personally imo loovveee this shorter story more than the full novel. Great episode!

No way shes delusional, the locket at the end proves it

Don’t order Chinese takeout at Hunter’s house Isaiah

Isaiah is on his believe all women arc

I wanna read these books so bad, and all I’m saying is if you guys did an audiobook reading of his full stories I would 100% purchase

[[MINI BOOK-CLUB? SPOILERS]] [[COME BACK AFTER THE STORY WITH YOUR INTERPRETATION - I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THEM]] I read Thomas coming back with the locket as the monster arriving to taunt the hero. The monster won, it has erased her and who she was. In the end despite all her struggling and violence against it, it comes back without malice or taunting, it sits there, reinforces the narrative its trapped her in in front of everyone and then as the final gloat gives her the locket. The only thing left that is tangible proof of her erasure and what she was before it did its work She can tell everyone "look, I have this locket, this is proof!!" But its already won and re-written her reality. She can shove it in a million peoples faces and she will to the people who see it always just be that crazy woman locked up in a little room, out of her mind. It mentions when she finally looks at him thst theres a subtle twitch in his face, the same twitch she notes every time she pushes back against it through the story. That little spark of defiance to its narrative that's always pissed it off. Honestly the descent into madness was so slow and gradually ramped up that I could be entirely wrong.

Ughhh. This story has me squeezed dry with my legs shaking 😤😩

HONK HONK 😵‍💫

Mild spoiler: Woman with black hair in a white hospital gown is eye roll inducing. Great story otherwise.

I took this as an adam and eve parallel. Like, eve did not want adam, fell for a woman, and he would not have that? Not sure, but def need to get the book.

Bro. When she says "I don't need it" I picture thirsty Spongebob

You killed it hunter ❤️

Cool, the "It was all a dream" ending.

The peace wolf situation where KabierArt and Jasonafex were fucking her 😭✌️

Although I’m not entirely convinced of the whole cyclic and time travel aspect I do agree that I don’t think shes inherently crazy too many things in the story didn’t make much sense to me if she was crazy the whole time

Isaiah let Hunter finish a sentence for the love of god

Dread it, run from it, the thing in the basement arrives all the same.

The fact that the address is 5150

Idk why it took me so long to figure out the MC was female 😵‍💫too much drugs

Getting into reading and thinking this book might have to be my second grab👀

Good episode

Similar to Isaiah's interpretation, I see this as a Fey Trickery. Thomas is weaving this deception with Suggestions, and Glamours that become more effective and more lasting the more doubt gets sewn into Eve's mind. All to do a reverse Crib Swap where instead of replacing your child with a Fae, the Fae worms his way into your home. I think that's what happened with Abbigail, and I think that's how he got her to work with him with the promise that he would exchange her freedom for Eve's. Truly an amazing story in how well it treads that line of what is real or not.

We need more vids of Isaiah reacting to things

Another super-banger from Creepcast, second only to Jeff vs Slenderman

This whole story is an ad for Home Title Lock isn't it?

Charlie is the eggs now

2:05:52 incredible editing

I was hoping they would comment on the discrepancy that when they first stayed over for dinner they mentioned they don’t drink but toward the end the wife fills a glass of wine up to the brim. I have no idea what it means. This might be the best story covered to date.

This author is the king of misdirection

Not sure how I feel about this one. The beginning is great but I think I struggled more with the madness vs truth dynamic in this one. I think the story leans into Eve Palmer being the “true” identity but I think there is fruitful ground here left unexplored. Not everything needs to be explored as identity but I thought the story might delve more into who is believed and who is not, and the reasons why. I also think the gaslighting aspect might work better if our narrator could be part-convinced to believe in it, and she herself has to make a conscious decision to find out the truth, however much she might not want to believe it. Still really enjoyed it!

This one is was a banger! I havent felt unnerved by a story for a long time but this did it, I need to buy the book now. I also like both theories boys had, but I vibe more with Hunters. Like time paradox and house as entity is cool, but main character going through psychotic break and seeing things as supernatural is always my favourite 🙂‍↕️

I agree with Isaiah’s take because of two points: 1. Why would Charlie wear the locket containing a photo of the person she is taking care of? That feels really weird unless they actually were dating in the unaltered reality. 2. Why would the story ask “Where is Abigail Going?” If she is just the same person as Eve? I feel like that question is trying to point out they are two different people more than anything.

Sounds like your average midwest winter experience. Also a terrible episode to listen to when you have a headache lol

Im team Isaiah on this one

who up being gay asf

I think the very last sentence confirms that it is a supernatural entity. "the only known photo of Eve"

AND HIS NAME WAS EVE CENA!!!!!!

Dude. This book was on my list of to read, didn’t know it was originally a nosleep turn book, absolutely buying!

For as often as it has come up, I think you guys should read House of Leaves. It's such a great journey, as I'm sure Isaiah can attest. And there's such wildness with the physical book itself that you would not be taking money from the publishers, or rather it would be asinine for them to use that excuse as the physical book is itself an art piece. If there's any published book from Horror Canon that deserves to be on this show, It's House of Leaves.

51:55 mehom menoy?

2:28:45 Wendibloom jumpscare. 😂

4 hour episode in this economy…

Loved the book when I read it last year, and getting to listen to the OG version was just as good! I loved it both times, but definitely want to do a reread on the book and see if I end up with a different perspective.

Some parts of this remind me of the movie Mother!

Wendigoon take is right papa meat wrong

1:24:05 Hunter Bear-Trapped the shit out of this one!

I think if you came by one day and introduced yourself, and let the current owners know you want to see the place; you could simply give them your info after the conversation and ask them to let you know if there i ever a convenient time to walk around the house with your family. For example. My grandfather built my dad's family home and we had that home until it was lost due to a shitty situation when I was 16. That home means a lot to me and my family and I would eat my shame and try to see it again for sure.

Gym 6

Funny enough, I think Isaiah would be way more likely to shut this situation down a lot quicker considering how Hunter couldn't even leave a conversation at a renaissance faire

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WAIT SHE ISNT CRAZY, why would Paige be wearing the Locket when she’s killed if it has a picture of eve in it??? Also the term “Your Charlie” so the Charlie(sponsor) is the wrong charlie

Once again, the story of Hunters Dreams “BrokeBack Cornfield” especially based off the joke around 55 mins in! Trust me!!!

Banger supreme. I like Hunter's interpretation of the story more

Started listening during my break at work, got hooked but couldn’t finish it. Stayed up until 4am instead to listen. God it was so good.

i’m looking forward to the house of leaves video! #believeeve

The scariest one yall have ever read

Also don't forget that Paige called Charlie Eve's friend in the city and when Eve responded Thomas said he was sure he could "figure something out". What if that was him figuring out what would be her place In the story.

i agreed with hunter that eve was just insane and actually abby, but the ending with the locket totally changed my mind

I pay money to hear Hunter inviting Isaiah to gay sex 15% of the entire video…. Worth it?!!!

Don't forget Paige said that she got the locket from the store and how the little girl looked sorry for her and didn't know her "script". I think the whole story of them being his wife's niece and nephews is a lie and he's doing to them what he's doing to her. That also may be how he got Paige too

absolutely best episode in a while. I love the discussion at the end but i have to agree with Isaiah in that a literal interpretation is correct. I can see where hunter is coming from but an “it’s all in your head” approach doesn’t feel right especially when you consider ‘Abigail’ might not be the first one and that Thomas is some kind of entity obsessed with his ‘sister’, supported by abigail’s journal that says “my name isn’t abigail” or i think that’s what it said i may have gotten it mixed up, i doubt any discussion will come of this comment but i wanted to give my two cents

Thomas Sympathizers for the win!

doing my nighttime yoga

I went to Waffle House just for raisin toast cause of this episode

You can tell Hunter was bought in because he made no comments about Isaiah stroking his soft pud

The "things you can feel, things you can hear, things you can see, things you can smell, things you can taste" is an anxiety coping tactic. It's meant to ground you when you're spiraling.

“Jenny? Come on out!” Thomas said calmly.

Definitely want a 2 hour definitive dive in the actual book from the boys having read the Reddit story of it

They need to just read house of leaves at this point

Please have a discussion of the book that would be so cool

2:31:00 Okay so this is ultimately unimportant but I need to point out that the Winchester house is in the middle of Silicon Valley. I live five minutes away from it and regularly forget it’s there. It’s not even a blip on the local economy. And while I don’t know of any local Winchester house escape rooms, a local mini golf course has a Winchester House themed hole 😂

Hunters just directing the intruder in the house like it’s mission impossible through his PA system. “Woman. Upstairs. Left room at the end of the hall.”

2:43:55 Eve calls the corner the quiet corner the exact same thing Thomas said him and his sister called the corner

Book is available on Audible, too.

Bonfire Camping Story?

isaiah fully believing delusions with his whole chest 💀

Lee cronins The lesbians

I know the boys aren't really able to do published books, so I have a rec for the community: "The House That Eats the Dead" by Max Doty. I literally couldn't put it down, I devoured that book. (ETA TW: Animal Death, Suicide Implication, Miscarriage)

Such an amazing story, massive props to Marcus. Just added this and the Cartaker to my amazon cart for when I get paid next week.

Not very far in but Anthony starr would be perfect for the dad in this story if they made a movie

Well this is terrifying

We need a monthly book club so we can compare the reddit stories with the published book versions

What was that ghost at the beginning?

This is the first story you guys have read that I've actually read too lol. I read this last year and really enjoyed it.

Lee Croni

How many sponsors has Hunter lost this show

scp 9000

Hunter's aside at 1:34:40 struck me to my CORE, I know it's cliche, but I genuinely didn't think other people experienced it that way. Honestly he vocalized it in a way I couldn't, really hits.

I really want to read the book now dam what a good fuckin story man I wish they would read the full book tht would be so cool what a dam good writer

Take a shot every time Isiah says House of Leaves.

I was born October 3rd maybe I’m Abigail foster

reminds me of the movie mother

why don’t anyone actually talk about the story in these comments

This story was such a mind fuck omg

love the stories where the mc’s inner monologue is just OCD simulator

House of Leaves reference…. STILL NO VIDEO, ISAIAH!!!

The Tomplaces vs the Eve-engalicals

I think Isiah has the right idea, the subtle way Thomas’s facade slips at certain moments.

2:28:30 you guys literally make millions you could make what you want pretending you don't/can't is incredibly disrespectful

I need a job. I work for an insane billionaire. Someone help.

This was goated

I found a copy of Marcus's book "the caretaker" about a week before it was released. Someone accidentally left a proof copy/pre release on a tram!

So excited to read this one !! Loved it, love that you can walk away with different interpretations and it gives you pause to think. Personally I agree with Isaiah but I’m exited to see what I think after I read the book

I (like I assume many of you did) immediately bought this book when they read the thing in my basement and if you found this reading interesting, please please please please pick up the book and read it! It’s so interesting to see how much more developed the characters and story became in the published work. Seriously fantastic read

holy fuck i bought this book like two weeks ago I AM FIRED UP

Day 19 of asking the boys to add Myrtle Beach to their next tour 🤓

I agree with wendi

Fell asleep listening to this and had a dream that Hunter was picking out my tonsil stones with tweezers but got distracted and just kept holding them down my throat and I started choking but Hunter didn’t notice but Isaiah did so he tapped Hunter on the shoulder which saved me so thank you Isaiah but f u Hunter because I gagged through my sleep

Wendigoon skin lamp merch would go so hard

yoooo do a live stream soon

Dang its instantly another gay story off the top.

Can we please do a poll on who agrees with hunter's interpretation vs Isaiah's? I'm very curious which the majority falls to. I personally agree with Isaiah's that the situation is 100% supernatural

I was excited to listen to this one because I read the novel last summer and I thought it was an acid trip the entire way through. I was hoping that listening to this would sway me in one direction or another in terms of deciphering the ending but to be honest I'm still stuck in the middle (though I think I sway more towards Isaiah). Great book and great episode! ❤️

Also the stucco when she was falling asleep in the bedroom and it does the same thing when she’s in the psych ward

“only when you are shaved can you enter.” - Hunter 2026

I love when Isaiah gets so into a story he forgets to not swear

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I was sad to see the book has very poor reviews :(

Three hours indeed

aThomplace

“I’m bewildered.” 😆

I listened to "The Man in My Basement Takes a Step Closer" episode after surgery and it felt like a fever dream.

this episode is such a banger

EVEngelicals unite! The truth will not be burried by the Tomcomplacis and their manipulative scemes!

PEAAAK PEAAAAAK

a fulcrum is the dopest way to describe a fixed point in time. its literally a lever that cant be moved any other way than its design. love it