A bit about Dillan
If you don’t remember: Dillan is the character Emma was texting back at the very beginning of the game. We haven’t forgotten about him, but there are a few nuances we need to address upfront.
Disclaimer (why we’re bringing this up)
The BoM project started during a difficult period for us:
our previous project ended up being put on hold;
we had to let part of the team go;
the new game had to be commercially successful;
BoM was originally made with Patreon in mind, relying on steady support.
Later, we managed to stabilize things, and BoM was heavily reworked.
What this means for the game’s content
When we were designing the game, we deliberately tried to make it as “broad” as possible in terms of appeal: we planned different routes and themes, including fetish elements—within the limits of what we personally felt comfortable making.
Dillan was originally one of those elements—part of the content we were willing (and wanted) to monetize.
Important: there are still quite a few of these “building blocks” left in the game. And as I’ve said before, sometimes it’s better to plan for different options in advance than to have to “re-invent” everything on the fly under time pressure.
About money (briefly)
Yes, we treat the game like a job. And we work to earn money. This still surprises or bothers some people—although, in theory, people expect to be paid at their own jobs too.
Why Dillan is a “problematic” character in the current script
The idea was for Dillan to show up at the protagonists’ house and become an additional point of tension within the family.
But that raises a key question: who is he supposed to be to just appear like that?
In the past (as some games do), we could have let the player choose who Dillan is in relation to them. But we can’t use that approach anymore on some platforms it would create complications so we’re looking for a different solution that is:
logically consistent with the story,
compatible with the project’s constraints and boundaries,
and doesn’t break the lines we’ve already established.
The “safest” solution — and why it’s controversial
At the moment, the safest option is to make Dillan, for example, Tyler’s brother. This is the only option we can realistically use right now.
But that raises a risk: does it “ruin” Emma’s character?
Because it would mean she was having sex with Dillan behind Tyler’s back.
In theory, this could be explained by the fact that:
Dillan was with her before she got together with Tyler.
However, there’s still a logical issue:
Tyler is unlikely not to have known about it.
And if he did know, he most likely wouldn’t have allowed Dillan to live with them.
That’s exactly why we need to work very carefully on how to integrate Dillan in a way that feels believable and doesn’t break the characters.
Alternative option
Another possibility is that Dillan is the same guy from Emma’s memories. The character’s name is not a mistake. I initially thought they were two different people, but overall, we could merge them into one.
Practical side (why this isn’t “quick”)
If Dillan is Tyler’s brother, we’d have to rewrite dialogue and, in places, the logic of certain scenes.
And there’s another important point: this is fairly complex work. Adding a new character to the household is, to put it mildly, not an easy task. Even if we decide to add him, we’ll have to do it gradually.
Question for you
What do you think is the best option:
keep Dillan and gradually introduce him into the household,
merge Dillan with the character from Emma’s memories,
or cut him completely?
And who is he?
Since this is a real issue, we won’t rush it anyway. We’ll think it through and discuss it with with the community.
Немного о Диллане
Если кто не помнит: Диллан — это тот персонаж, с которым Эмма переписывалась ещё в самом начале игры. Мы о нём не забыли, но есть нюансы, которые важно проговорить заранее.
Дисклеймер (почему вообще поднимаем тему)
Проект BoM появился для нас в непростой период:
предыдущий проект тогда оказался заморожен;
часть команды пришлось распустить;
новая игра должна была обязательно стать коммерчески успешной;
изначально BoM делался под Patreon, с расчётом на стабильную поддержку.
Позже ситуацию удалось выровнять, и BoM был сильно переработан.
Что это значит для контента игры
Когда мы проектировали игру, мы сознательно старались сделать её максимально «широкой» по аудитории: закладывали разные линии и темы, включая фетиш‑элементы — в пределах того, что нам самим ок делать.
Диллан изначально был одним из таких элементов — частью контента, на котором мы были готовы и хотели зарабатывать.
Важно: подобных «заготовок» в игре осталось немало. И, как я уже говорил, иногда лучше заранее предусмотреть варианты, чем потом в спешке всё «перепридумывать» на ходу.
Про деньги (коротко)
Да, мы делаем игру как работу. И мы работаем, чтобы зарабатывать деньги. Кого-то это до сих пор удивляет или напрягает — хотя, по идее, на своей работе люди тоже хотят получать оплату.
Почему Диллан “проблемный” персонаж в текущем сценарии
По задумке Диллан должен был появиться в доме героев и стать дополнительной точкой напряжения внутри семьи.
Но возникает ключевой вопрос: кто он такой, чтобы появиться именно так?
Первоначальную идею мы использовать не можем.
Раньше (как это принято в некоторых играх) можно было сделать так, чтобы игрок сам выбирал, кем ему приходится Диллан. Но у нас такой вариант не подходит, поэтому мы ищем другое решение, которое будет:
логичным для сюжета,
корректным по ограничениям/рамкам проекта,
и при этом не разрушит уже выстроенные линии.
Самое “безопасное” решение и почему оно спорное
На данный момент наиболее безопасный вариант — сделать Диллана, например, братом Тайлера. Это единственный вариант, который сейчас допустимо использовать.
Но тут возникает риск: не “портит” ли это Эмму?
Ведь получается, что она спала с Дилланом за спиной у Тайлера.
Теоретически это можно объяснить тем, что:
Диллан был у неё до отношений с Тайлером.
Однако и здесь остаётся логическая проблема:
Тайлер вряд ли мог этого не знать.
И если бы знал, то, скорее всего, не позволил бы Диллану жить у них.
Именно поэтому нам важно аккуратно проработать, как вписать Диллана, чтобы это выглядело правдоподобно и не ломало характеры.
Альтернативный вариант
Также возможен вариант, что Диллан — это тот самый парень из воспоминаний Эммы. Имя персонажа — не ошибка. Я изначально думал, что это разные люди, но в целом их можно объединить.
Практическая сторона (почему это не делается “быстро”)
Если Диллан — брат Тайлера, то придётся переписывать диалоги и местами логику сцен.
И есть ещё важный нюанс: это довольно комплексная работа. Добавить нового персонажа в дом — мягко говоря, непростая задача. Даже если мы примем решение его добавлять, делать это придётся постепенно, и это займёт не один месяц.
Вопрос к вам
Как вам кажется, что лучше:
оставить Диллана и постепенно вводить его в дом,
объединить Диллана с персонажем из воспоминаний Эммы,
или вырезать его полностью?
И кто он?
Поскольку это действительно проблема, мы всё равно не будем с этим сильно спешить. Будем думать и обсуждать это с аудиторией.
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Dillan was a former coworker of Tylers. Dillan is the office stud and Tyler, in the past kind of lived vicariously through the exploits of Dillan. Dillan set his sights on Emma but before he could really make his move, Tyler and Emma moved away to the new job. One day Tyler goes to work and finds that Dillan has been hired at this new job. ALL kinds of tension begins as Dillan starts working his magic on the new office girls, and of course, Emma.
Hey so I'm late i don't know if my inputs will be important but I'm giving them anyway so what if dylan was also a friend to tyler and one night stand for emma or just dated for a while before meeting tyler and now dylan lost a job and tyler lets him stay for a price and lets him search for a job then emma and dylan connect again through something ( your choice) just my thoughts.
Tyler finds a tenant through his ad on a well-known rental site under the name Jack Nelson (who is actually Dillan) to improve the family's finances. Dillan has prepared thoroughly and uses high-quality forged documents featuring a fictitious or stolen name to gain entry into the house. Why he uses a fake name: Dillan uses forged documents because Emma might have mentioned a "bad experience with an ex named Dillan" in college during her conversations with Tyler. Therefore, Tyler knows the name and would never have let him in. Thanks to the high-quality fake documents, Dillan successfully bypasses Tyler's caution. Logic: Tyler has no idea who this man really is because he only knows Dillan through Emma's stories. Seeing no issues with the potential tenancy, he tells Emma that he simply posted an ad and intended to discuss the candidate with her only after someone responded. Tyler shows Emma the profile of Jack Nelson, and she agrees to let him move in since the room is just gathering dust and they need the money. Emma only recognizes him at the moment of move-in and falls into a state of shock. She realizes that the "very same Dillan from her college memories (Damian in the current version of the game)" is now living under her roof, while her husband-knowing Dillan only by name-sees no problem with housing Jack Nelson (who is actually Dillan). Why this preserves Emma's image: She is a victim of circumstances. She did not invite him and did not seek this meeting. Her "decency" is threatened only because she is paralyzed by the fear of confessing: "Our new tenant is actually the man I had a relationship with back in college." Realism: In today's world, renting a room using forged documents over the internet is absolutely realistic. Game Plot: This confirms their past connection and gives Emma a solid reason for the "horror" she feels. It ties the plot to her hidden past without making Emma or Tyler responsible for Dillan's arrival. Conflict: This creates a powerful storyline - Dillan can blackmail Emma, threatening to tell Tyler the truth about their past and reveal his true identity. *I think Dillan fits perfectly into the game's plot. ------------------------------ Тайлер находит жильца через своё объявление на известном сайте об аренде под именем Jack Nelson (который на самом деле является Дилланом), чтобы поправить финансы семьи. Диллан тщательно подготовился и использует качественные поддельные документы, на которых указано вымышленное или чужое имя, чтобы попасть в дом. Почему он использует поддельное имя: Диллан использует фальшивые документы, потому что Эмма могла упоминать в разговорах с Тайлером о "плохом опыте с бывшим по имени Диллан" в колледже. Таким образом, Тайлер знает это имя и никогда бы его не впустил. Благодаря качественным поддельным документам Диллан обходит осторожность Тайлера. Логика: Тайлер понятия не имеет, кто этот человек на самом деле, так как знаком с Дилланом только по рассказам Эммы. Не видя проблем с заселением, он говорит Эмме, что просто разместил объявление, и готов был обсудить кандидатуру жильца с Эммой только после того, как кто-то откликнулся на объявление. Тайлер показывает Эмме профиль "Jack Nelson", и она соглашается на его въезд, так как комната всё равно пустует, а деньги им нужны. Эмма узнает его только в момент заселения и впадает в состояние шока. Она понимает, что "тот самый Диллан из воспоминаний колледжа (в текущей версии игры - Дамиан)" теперь живет под её крышей, а муж, зная Диллана только по рассказам Эммы, не видит проблем с заселением Jack Nelson (он же Диллан). Почему это сохраняет образ Эммы: Она - жертва обстоятельств. Она не приглашала его и не искала этой встречи. Её "порядочность" оказывается под угрозой, так как она парализована страхом признаться: "Наш новый жилец - это тот самый человек, с которым у меня были отношения в колледже". Реализм: В современном мире снять комнату по поддельным документам через интернет - абсолютно реально. Сюжет игры: Это подтверждает их прошлую связь и дает Эмме веский повод для "ужаса". Это привязывает сюжет к её скрытому прошлому, не делая Эмму и Тайлера ответственными за появление Диллана. Конфликт: Это создает мощную сюжетную линию - Диллан может шантажировать Эмму, угрожая рассказать Тайлеру правду об их прошлом и раскрыть свою настоящую личность. *Думаю, что Диллан идеально вписывается в сюжет игры.
You could get really weird and make Dillan EMMA's brother.
And the project will get banned on every platform in 3…2…1… It’s been prohibited to include that kind of intimate relationship for a long time now.
I generally like the idea of one more character that adds an additional factor of tension to the game. I assume the empty room oft the house is meant to be used for this character at some point. The good thing is – as you already mentioned – there is no need to rush things… First Idea – „Tylers brother“ From what i understand there are two main reasons that make it difficult to introduce the character as Tylers brother: 1. You say it would be difficult to make it beleavable that Dillan is the brother of Tyler. My take: To be frank – in addition to that i do not see much tension coming from this scenario either. Tyler would have to be somewhat understanding that he moves in, since the character is part of his own family. So where should much tension come from? 2. It would be neccessary to rewrite existing Dialogs and Scenes. My take: That seems to be unneccessary work that i would simply avoid. 3. The initial idea of letting the Player decide who the character would from my point of view also lead to unneccessary complexity in the development of the game. You already mentioned you cannot do that anymore and are therefore searching for alternatives. To be frank: this is what i would do as well. Overall: For me, this would be some good reasons to drop the idea of „Tylers brother“. Second Idea - merge with „Guy from Emmas memories“ That looks like the better (and more logical) idea to me. Let me break it down why i think that way: 1. There should be a reason why Emma is still mentionally connected to that character, since she is keeping contact with him. Idea: It could be some kind of trouble-maker that she was in a relationship before she met Tyler. For some reason Emma still is (or at least feels) responsible for him. This is something that could be discovered during the games story. The difficult thing is: At some point you would need a good reason why Tyler should allow the character to move into their house. Perhaps the character could urge Emma to convince Tyler of the idea. As soon as the „Troublemaker“ is in the house many new possibilities would open up for shure. One additional thing: Although i am appreciating that you are involving the members here, i would prefer not to discuss or outline everything in detail here. For me, that ruins some of the anticipation of what you might surprise us with. That's why I'm only hinting at the direction I would take...
Always seemed liked Emma's ex to me. Unknown to Tyler. How does he end up in the house? Tyler's work is not a bad idea. Supposed to be a temporary stay and pick up a little extra money. Or Tyler wants to Air BnB a room. Why add an additional character? Tyler is also on a journey in the game. Open relationships is there. What about bisexuality route? BoM.
merge Dillan with the character from Emma’s memories
We haven't forgotten Dylan. (I certainly haven't.) I've always wondered: who is this guy and what was his early relationship with Emma? I thought he was a drug dealer who did time in prison and is now free. My second thought was that he was a neighbor's kid from a young age. He went to the school where Emma was a teacher. Then he moved away for university. Maybe he came back to the same city where Emma lives now after graduating? I'm curious.
(En réponse au commentaire qui est correct) Justement, elle pourrait trouver un terrain d'entente avec son patron et redorer son blason en s'écartant de son mari et en multipliant ses aventures avec les sportifs de la plage, le masseur qui pourrait être un allié également vu qu'il est policier ou avocat de son état et ainsi donne rune nouvelle dimension à Emma qui pourrait sortir de la soumission et devenir plus indépendante
Pourquoi pas simplement dire qu'Emma a eu un autre homme(Dillan) avant son mari et qu'il était le cousin de Tyler. De plus il avait une influence sur Emma en tant que dominateur et donc cela expliquerait la façon de réagir d'Emma par rapport à son mari actuellement et sa disponibilité sur la soumission. Pour moi je le ferais venir dans l'histoire et que petit à petit il ferait connaissance avec le patron d'Emma et jouerait de son influence pour la rendre complètement soumise au profit des deux hommes. Egalement, et contre l'avis d'Emma, Tyler accepte que Dillan loge avec eux. Tyler cache un secret que seul Dillan est au courant et donc il lui fait chantage pour qu'il accepte tout ces désirs. S'il ne le fait pas, il publierai la faute professionnelle de Tyler qui a occasionné un écroulement d'un immeuble faisant plusieurs victimes et qu'il a fait endossé sur Dillan qui lui tient actuellement toutes les preuves.
Because it seriously damages Emma’s image before the events of the game. She’s supposed to be “spoiled” by the player’s actions.
Maybe these will work (Может, это подойдет): I've reconsidered my suggestions based on your feedback. Since Dillan and Emma already know each other according to the lore, here are 3 new options that explain his long-term stay in the house more realistically: (Я пересмотрел свои предложения, основываясь на твоем фидбеке. Раз Диллан и Эмма уже знакомы по лору, вот 3 новых варианта, которые более реалистично объясняют его долгое пребывание в доме:) 1. Dillan is a specialist or consultant hired by Tyler’s company. Since the company is struggling, Tyler is forced to host him at their house to save on costs and work on a "last-chance" project together. This explains why he is there long-term and why Tyler must tolerate him. (Диллан — специалист или консультант, нанятый компанией Тайлера. Поскольку компания переживает кризис, Тайлер вынужден поселить его у себя дома, чтобы сэкономить на расходах и вместе работать над проектом «последнего шанса». Это объясняет, почему он там живет долго и почему Тайлер обязан его терпеть.) 2. Dillan and Tyler were business partners in a failed venture before the game started. Dillan lost everything and, according to their contract or a legal agreement, Tyler is obligated to provide him with housing until a certain debt is settled. This makes his presence a "legal necessity" that Tyler hates but can't avoid. (Диллан и Тайлер были бизнес-партнерами в неудачном предприятии еще до начала игры. Диллан потерял всё, и согласно их контракту или юридическому соглашению, Тайлер обязан предоставить ему жилье, пока не будет погашен определенный долг. Это делает его присутствие «юридической необходимостью», которую Тайлер ненавидит, но не может избежать.) 3. Dillan is an old friend of Tyler’s who once did him a massive, possibly illegal favor. Now Dillan is back and "collecting" that favor by staying in the house. Tyler feels he owes Dillan his life or career, so he ignores the red flags, while Emma is the only one who knows Dillan's true nature from their past. (Диллан — старый друг Тайлера, который когда-то оказал ему огромную, возможно, незаконную услугу. Теперь Диллан вернулся и «забирает долг», поселившись в доме. Тайлер чувствует, что обязан Диллану жизнью или карьерой, поэтому игнорирует подозрительные моменты, в то время как Эмма — единственная, кто знает истинную натуру Диллана из их прошлого.)
This isn’t a realistic scenario, considering where he works and what his job is. This scenario is even more unrealistic. There’s nothing about it in the lore, and there can’t be any such weird arrangements. Same issue as with Tyler’s brother/friend. According to Emma’s messages, she had a sexual relationship with Dylan. If we go with that option, it casts a shadow over Emma’s past life, whereas the whole point of the game is that we either corrupt—or don’t corrupt—a decent, proper woman.
I would say drop him. He is a person of the past. The story as is fits. If you need to add additional tension, Justin and Shelly are almost forgotten after that bar scene I would have expected to have them interact more not less.
I like idea of him being a brother in law , she was with much before meeting his brother
Patreon n'acceptera pas et risque de bloquer le jeu
From my point of view, Dillan should remain in the game as an old flame of Emma's, but not related to her. Why not the neighbor's son she used to play doctor with as a child? He had to move away because his father changed jobs and now works in the town next to Emma's. So yes, he lives nearby. What happens next is up to you. But it's not necessarily a priority.
Because it would be a strange partner who would be okay with letting that guy, who is so close to his wife, stay under his roof
Since steam/payment providers have issues with incest I would stay away from that route. I would not bring him into the home. I like JSexton's idea. A childhood friend that crossed the line perhaps. Also it's possible he is in an open relationship to extend the swinging path. Dropping Dillan completely won't really take anything away from the game.
Incest won’t be added to the game—that’s the whole point of the post.
I say drop him, make him the character from Emma's past, that way you don't have to re-write the early scenes of Emma texting him. If you want to use him, add him as someone who shows up in a different manner, he cant be the one that was supposed to live in the MC's house. As you said if he's changed to Tyler's brother it doesn't make sense why he would be allowed to live there. I know who he was supposed to be in relation to Emma, but as you said that would no longer work due to circumstances. If you need to fill the attic in the house, I say have a renter move in instead, a new character whether male or female with no previous attachment to the couple, and keep Dylan as a possible other cheat option outside the house for Emma, he can be at the gym, or mall working there.
Okay, I've read all the suggestions and if you are going to keep him as a side story. He has to be like the boy growing up across the street from her. She does have an exhibitionist tendency. Maybe she used to tease him, and it developed into a sexting thing. That seems taboo to her. Why would he have to move in? Maybe he's just a source of corruption. And nothing more.
Keep him, I would go the brother/cousin route. Could have been a mirror to the Justin scene when she got tipsy/drunk and almost went all the way with him - something she also might have regretted ... I would also be more interested in his dynamic with Victor for example - but slowly getting him into the house would be fun too for sure whatever the other relationships are
It’s prohibited by the platforms where we distribute the game.
А зачем Диллана обязательно вводить в дом? С этим и так очень много проблем, в смысле подачи этого более логично. Я вот ни знаю как можно более логично сделать так, чтоб в доме у Тайлера и Эммы жил какой то левый мужик. Единственный вариант сделать его братом Тайлера который в силу каких то обстоятельств будет вынужден пустить его к себе пожить, но в любых других обстоятельствах это будет выглядить несколько странно. В любом случае не думаю что зорошей идеей будет делать именно Эмму тем человеком который приведет Диллана в дом. Ну а оказавшись у них дома, во время отсутствия Тайлера он сожет начать пытаться снова разжечь огонь их с Эммой любви, приставать к ней и т.д.. Но это на усмотрение автора. Нужно решить, укладывается, этот персонаж в историю игры и можно ли его логично ввести в праествование без вредя для задумки автора, или лучше оставить его в прошлом чтоб через воспоминания Эмму как то расскрывать ее характер, или лучше от него избавится.
А зачем он иначе? Ну просто ещё один парень? НАам их хватает.
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No
Dillan needs to remain ex boyfriend, he could be some one that Tyler knows because they all attend the same college or University. I like the options Julio mentions about different routes. Dillan should not be family.
Understanding that Dillan should remain as a former boyfriend who may eventually visit Emma to see her. This would give the player the option of Tyler enjoying it if they're in a more open relationship, or becoming jealous if the relationship isn't open yet, or even starting a ménage à trois.
If Dillan lives with them are they going to hook up? Secretly or with Tyler's permission? Both of these routes have appeal to me.
...honestly? I had forgotten him as well. But this discussion is one of the parts I love here very much: we are brainstorming with Novel several interesting options - but in the end I (!) don´t need much more personage....
What if Dilan is Tyler’s cousin? Since Emma is an innocent woman who would never intentionally do anything wrong, it simply happened by chance. She was at Tyler’s place and wanted to take a shower, completely unaware that anyone else was in the house. She walked into the bathroom in her lingerie, only to find Dilan standing there naked in the shower. This unexpected encounter—where she saw him and he saw her in her underwear—perfectly explains the guilty conscience an innocent person like her would feel. Furthermore, because Dilan saw her like that, it explains why he started sending her suggestive messages. Even for someone innocent, getting caught up in fantasies and texting can lead to things spiraling out of control. This setup also explains his move into the house: it had been agreed upon between Tyler and Emma long before the wedding.
Then we’ll need to rewrite their messages/chat at the beginning of the game.
If Dillan was a love interest that she was "winding down" when she met Tyler, its entirely possible for her to downplay him into being an old friend to Tyler when they met so as not to make him jealous, especially if she's pursuing Tyler. Maybe she intended to come "totally" clean but forgot about it or felt sorry for Dillan in some way. Regardless she can't be proper if she left the door cracked to a guy she was having sex with, but in this scenario I think many women would do this. (My wife even agreed with me.) Minimizing prior relationships is not all that uncommon with people pursuing new and better ones. But my question is there an NTS route? That would really be the only reason to keep an old flame around. Otherwise why would Tyler need to know they used to have sex? If its for tension, I understand. Maybe Tyler is just convinced all that is behind her be cause she reassures him it is.... until they're living together and it isn't.
Or maybe the sex was limited but unforgettable and she had to make the hard choice to pick Tyler because Tyler was stable and Dillan was a bad boy... and because it was few in number she minimized it even to herself.
You can't remove the character because some people have saved games where Emma has already texted him 🤔. He could be an old "friend" (neighborhood) from when Emma was young (teenager) and didn't know Tyler. For example, when he sends her text messages, I imagined him as someone Emma had a brief fling with that she regrets. I always imagined Dillan as a troublemaker; maybe he sells drugs, and his attempt to contact Emma after so many years is either out of nostalgia, or because he needs money, or because he wants to propose some kind of shady business venture 🧐. I also don't like the idea of him living in Emma's house. He should appear only when Tyler isn't around, as if he's been spying. He has to bring some kind of problem with him, whether he's a big kingpin or someone dangerous, he can't just be a scorned ex asking to get back together out of pity. Besides, Emma now socialises with executives, so he must have some influence 😎.
It’s not a big issue, really. We can remove it. It won’t affect save files.
Make Dillan the stepbrother... They do not have to have had a taboo relationship at all. Just that Emma was implicated in an act betweenn Dillan and a third-party which was shameful and required Emma to have therapy and Dillan to be sent away to boarding school.
It’s forbidden
What is there that you can not do in the game/story without introducing this character?
I don’t need him. In the original concept, he could have brought in money, but without that… I’d just cut him.
Okay, so from what's being said... Dylan and Emma have known each other since childhood, Emma regrets a "big mistake she made when she was younger," and they have (according to Emma) an agreement (before or after her wedding to Tyler?). We initially think of someone close to Emma, but could this person have also been close to Tyler and be the one who brought them together in the first place? Why not consider Tyler's best man? A mistake made during or just before the wedding!?
It ruins Emma’s image. The game is about the fate of a woman who is originally decent and proper. That’s important for her character.
Honestly had forgotten about Dylan. So, unless I'm mistaken, Emma has known Dylan from childhood but didn't know of Tyler until later in college. There was something "shameful" going on between her and Dylan that required her going through some therapy and Dylan was sent away to boarding school. Lastly, he had no idea how to contact her while he was a way. All of the above was gleamed from their first text interaction and kind of lock you in if you want the story to remain consistent. From all this I deduce that it was a taboo relationship which happened while both were relatively young (early teens perhaps?). I don't see how him being related to Tyler would cause her so much shame that it would require therapy or for Dylan to be sent away to boarding school - why would Dylan's parents send him off otherwise? A cousin to Emma would make sense, but you clearly stated below in another post that he can't be her cousin. This is a tough dilemma ... Would it be possible to make him Tyler's cousin (allowing you to distance him a bit from Tyler so that he doesn't know what happened between Dylan and Emma)? Could the shame, therapy, etc. be because Dylan was older, like 15-16 and Emma was young, like 10-11 making whatever took place between them inappropriate and technically a statutory rape that required him to be sent away to a boarding school, or face possible criminal consequences (it seems he does get in trouble a lot)? Some sort of "compromise" agreement. The above fits the scenario you painted, knowing each other since childhood, shame, taboo, therapy and sending Dylan off to boarding school with him not knowing anymore how to contact her --- but as a cousin to Tyler, he may be far enough removed from Tyler's everyday life that Tyler might not know the conditions under which Dylan was sent away to boarding school or that he even had a connection to Emma.
What happened between them will remain a secret.
I would have thought of Tyler's father, which would explain the hidden relationship. The father asking his son to take him in because of his divorce from his mother. Emma strongly objects, but Tyler insists, claiming he can't leave his father homeless, thus unwittingly letting the fox into the henhouse...
No, that doesn’t match the lore or our messages at all. And it messes up Emma’s backstory too much. The whole point of the game is corrupting a decent woman (or not corrupting her for players who stay faithful).
cut completely, this Dillan isn't needed, and it would ruin the game to make him Tyler's brother and had has Emma sleep/cheated on Tyler in the past. this will change everything, all that you built with Emma and Tyler would be changed and ruined
They could have been together before Tyler, but I don’t really like that either. That’s why I’m bringing this up—I don’t see a solution.
It all depends on what you wish to do. Merge him into the college boy friend and fix a few lines of text or if you want to make him an actual character. Dont make him a brother, dont make him a cousin, make him an adult neighbor - friends of her parents who had a tryst with her when she was 18 and gave her money during college. Like a sugar daddy.
We already have enough characters—that’s the point. He was interesting in the house, but as a standalone character he’s just not necessary.
1. What if Dillan is Emma's brother? She might suddenly find out she has a brother from her parents, or Dillan himself finds her contact info and reaches out asking to stay for a while because he moved to a new city for a career promotion. Alternatively, Emma herself could offer him a place to stay. (А что, если Диллан — брат Эммы? Она может внезапно узнать, что у неё есть брат от родителей, или сам Диллан находит её контакты и связывается с просьбой пожить некоторое время, так как он переехал в новый город из-за повышения в карьере. Либо Эмма сама предлагает ему пожить у них.) 2. Emma accidentally meets Dillan on the street when he helps her (for example, she drops her bag, or he helps catch a thief, or she is attacked). He asks for help with housing for a few days, a week, or a month and promises to pay. This makes sense since Emma and Tyler have financial struggles. The rent amount is up to you—maybe $200–400 per day. (Эмма случайно знакомится с Дилланом на улице, когда он ей помогает (например, она уронила сумку, или он помог догнать вора, или на неё напали). Он просит помочь ему с жильем на пару дней, неделю или месяц и обещает платить. Это логично, так как у Эммы и Тайлера финансовые трудности. Оплата проживания — на твое усмотрение, например, 200–400$ в день.) 3. Dillan is an old friend of Tyler's who reaches out for help because his house burned down. Dillan asks if he can stay with Tyler. The duration and payment are also up to you: either for a fee, or for free/low cost because Tyler wants to help a friend who lost part of his savings. (Диллан — давний друг Тайлера, который обращается к нему за помощью, так как у него сгорел дом. Диллан спрашивает, нельзя ли пожить у Тайлера. Срок и оплата также на твое усмотрение: либо за деньги, либо бесплатно/за низкую стоимость, так как Тайлер хочет помочь другу, потерявшему часть сбережений.) 4. Without Emma’s knowledge, Tyler posted an ad on a well-known website to rent out a room to cover their debts. Dillan moves in as a regular tenant. (Тайлер без ведома Эммы создал объявление на известном сайте о сдаче комнаты, чтобы закрыть долги. Диллан заезжает как обычный жилец.) 5. Tyler borrowed money from the mafia, and Dillan appears as a "fixer" who deals with family debts. He offers a shady deal: he stays in the house and "supervises" them until the debt is repaid. (Тайлер одолжил деньги у мафии, и Диллан появляется под видом человека, который «решает проблемы» с долгами семьи, предлагая сомнительную сделку: он живет в доме и «наблюдает», пока они не отдадут деньги.) 6. Dillan is a successful businessman who either met Tyler by chance or saw Emma in Paris and became obsessed with her. He found a way to get to her through Tyler. Dillan offers to invest in Tyler's project or job, but the condition for the investment is that he stays with them temporarily to "discuss the details." (Диллан — успешный бизнесмен, который случайно познакомился с Тайлером или увидел Эмму в Париже, заинтересовался ей и начал поиски. Он нашёл лазейку через Тайлера и предлагает ему вложиться в его проект или работу, но условием вложения будет временное проживание рядом для «обсуждения деталей».) *In all of my suggested options, Emma is horrified to recognize Dillan from her past memories. (Во всех моих вариантах Эмма в ужасе узнаёт Диллана из своих прошлых воспоминаний.)
1) He can’t her be brother—that forbidden’s all on. 2-3) How does that solve the other problem? He was intended to be the one who would live with Emma and Tyler. 4) It doesn’t seem very believable to me. 5) No.... 6) According to the lore, he and Emma already know each other.
Is Emma an only child? Because it's not clear from the game, depending on the answer, Dillan could be the lover of Emma's sister or mother, whom he also seduced.
How does that solve the other problem? He was intended to be the one who would live with Emma and Tyler.
I say keep him. Ex or Ex/brother in-law is fine. Slow play it with some sexting on the phone after a night of drinking or potentially an argument with Tyler.
I would lean toward either an ex that won't let go and whom she hid from after breaking up or a foster brother that she purposely hid from after coming out of foster care. It has been done before, but then most scenarios have been done before at some point or at some level. Although step brother is similar to foster, it would mean a blood tie rather than just housed under the same roof. Personally I would lean toward the foster scenario. Just my opinion, it's your game so I'm sure we'll be happy with whatever you decide. 👍
Interesting...I agree with a lot of the below comment (not the family ones) and above all it's the game you want to make so whatever you guys think is best....run with it.....Although if you want an option could Dillan be Maggie's brother and they hit it off during a sleepover at Maggie's one night and kept it a secret from everyone. Other than the viable ones below this is the only option I can think of that ties everything in and makes the information already in seem believable...As always you're game is great and the whole team is earning that paycheck in my opinion. Roll on 0.700...Good luck
Emma has proven vulnerable to a degree of coercion as a means to corrupt her. Dillon may have secrets from her youth that she would rather Tyler didn’t know e.g. if Dillon had been a step or cousin living under the same roof who had seduced her? The taboo nature of the relationship is one she could be drawn to again?
He can’t her be brother—that forbidden’s all on.
Or maybe Dylan is just a one-time mistake from the past, like at the bachelorette party, that Emma wanted to forget. But since he's a stalker, he's back and blackmailing her.
We already have enough characters as it is. He was interesting in the house, but as a standalone character he’s just not needed. Why add even more characters when we already have plenty and don’t have the time/energy to develop them properly?
If Dillan is merged in household then perhaps he could be stepbrother to Emma without any blood relations. For some reason I don't like idea that Dillan would be Tyler's brother. If Dillan is constantly on household then that creates tension all time. I think house should be place where Emma had some peace time to time. So, best option is probably cut Dillan out totally and perhaps more some random encounters for Emma with possibility to have sex, both men and women.
No, he definitely won’t be Emma’s brother. We won’t risk it. Sex or no sex, it’s better to avoid that option altogether.
Reading the comments below. I say second cousin is a good opportunity to explore.
If you mean Emma, then no — that’s not allowed.
I think having sex with an old friend makes more sense than with Tyler's brother. Is it necessary for him to live with them? But does this game need another sex candidate for Emma? She has Victor, beachie, Justin, the photog. I say cut him. Unless we simply love watching Tyler getting cucked, stewed and fried. Which doesn't make much sense since his has his own stuff going on. I guess I don't understand why he would care what she does.
I would also agree with Mr. Brownstone with making Dylan a friend from her school days before she met Tyler. Looking at the video She could have been a Freshman in college and had a falling out with Dylan before she hooked up with Tyler or you can go with Ursamajjor98's input and have her block him. It would be interesting if he does show up in her life at the bar, beach or at the photo shoot for example.
Tyler's brother is good idea, Dillan is the passion, Tyler is the reason, etc. Dillan can be the guy from Emma's memories and the the brother of Tyler in meeting him during his relationship with Dillan.
I don't think a brother makes sense. That's too close a relationship to Tyler. I think more reasonable explanations might be Tyler's college roommate or perhaps a fraternity brother. That gives him a reason to be Tyler's "bro" without Tyler knowing everything about him. He could be Emma's previous ex or just a short fling pre-Tyler who won't take "no" for an answer. To be honest, I don't think the game would lose anything by cutting him. You have a *lot* of threads to develop as it is. But what you have planned sounds like an interesting dynamic too, so look forward to seeing the path you choose.
Thanks for opening the lines with us. Dylan is that question mark in Emma's head, very clearly from the text message exchanges; he's a past love that hurt her, but she still has feelings for him. Maybe a friend from her school days long before she met Tyler? Maybe a second cousin where Emma had her first sexual experiences (it happens a lot between cousins...) 😏 Anyway, but as Ursamajor98 said above, I also think you have enough creativity to do with him whatever you think is best.
No, there can’t be any family relation to Emma—that’s impossible. He’s already accounted for in the game code and set up for the house. If we’re not going to add him to the house, it might be easier to cut him entirely. Although… maybe not.
He could be her step-brother, or cousin.
If you mean Emma, then no — that’s not allowed.
Do we know anything in-depth about Tyler's past? Like sports in school, college friends, etc?
No. we don’t have anything in-depth on Tyler’s past.
For my opinion I would say do whatever you as devs think is best for the game. Your instincts have been fine so far and while everyone I’m sure has opinions about what they think should be in the game, you’re the one making it. If the best thing is to cut him, cut him. Make one more text where she blocks his number and move on. I have no doubt whatever you pick will be exciting