SEUS PTGI E9 Dev News 2
Hey everyone, sorry it's been a while since the last news post or update! Here's what's been going on.
So, I bought an AMD Radeon RX 580 GPU a few weeks ago and have been working on AMD GPU compatibility for SEUS PTGI E9. I was quite disappointed with the performance on this card, though, and after some investigation, I found the cause. Due to differences in hardware design, AMD GPUs tend to struggle with geometry shaders that have a lot of input geometry.
I utilize geometry shaders in order to allow for both voxelization for GI and sunlight shadows simultaneously. However, the work that was being done in this step wasn't much more than a simple copying of all geometry once, and so I started wondering if a different approach could be taken to avoid geometry shaders entirely.
After discussing it with the developer of OptiFine, the latest version of OptiFine for Minecraft 1.14.4 now has a new feature, which is the ability to tell OptiFine to render geometry in a certain stage more than once. Using this feature, I'm able to skip using geometry shaders entirely! This provides a very slight speedup on NVIDIA graphics cards, but offers huge speedups on the RX 580 (this should apply to other AMD cards as well)! At times I've seen a doubling of frame rate utilizing this new feature instead of geometry shaders!
So, I've been working on getting this new alternative approach to be as robust as the old geometry shaders approach, as well as generally working on AMD compatibility. There are a few visual bugs remaining that I can't seem to track down, but since it's been so long and they're relatively minor, I think I'll leave those for E10; I don't want to keep you guys waiting any longer!
More concerning about AMD compatibility is that I seem to encounter random crashes whenever SEUS PTGI's shaders are loaded. Sometimes I just have to try multiple times to successfully get in-game without a crash, and I can't seem to find the cause or figure out why it's just completely random. Has anyone else with an AMD GPU who has been testing SEUS PTGI out experienced this?
And of course, I've been finalizing the main new feature for E9, which is ray tracing that considers uniquely shaped blocks. Right now I've got all stair variants, all fence variants, all slab variants, and all door variants working, and I've got them working with reflection tracing as well as diffuse lighting tracing.
However, since I'm not using geometry shaders anymore, voxelization is a little more difficult to keep robust, so it's more sensitive to breaking when custom block models are used. I definitely don't like this limitation. I'll be working on seeing if I can get voxelization to be more robust to custom block models.
So, because E9 will use the new "instancing" feature of OptiFine instead of geometry shaders, it will only be compatible with Minecraft 1.14.4 until this feature is added to OptiFine for previous versions of Minecraft. Compatibility with 1.13 and 1.12 will come when this happens.
This update has turned out to be a really complicated one, thanks for hanging in there!
Comments (102)
go to this link and get it for free https://www.mediafire.com/file/eg5rvxasl6gnjf8/SEUS_PTGI_E9.zip/file
THANK YOU
when will the windows 10 rtx come out?
Why does ptgi e9 look better than ptgi e11?
J'a iune rx 580 nitro+, j'aimerais avoir le seus ptgi mais quelle abonnement je dois prendre ???
how to download this
aca el link amigos, se los comparto https://www.mediafire.com/file/eg5rvxasl6gnjf8/SEUS_PTGI_E9.zip/file
thanks for sharing the link i got it for free
Plase can you add volumetric fog and dof option?? Thank you.
sonic ether can you make the price more reasonable it seems weird to pay a monthly bill
you don't need to pay a monthly bill, you can buy the patreon, download the shader and then unsubscribe from it before the next billing cycle. I don't do that because I like to support him and his awesome work, but if you're just here for the shader and nothing else, by all means do that.
ill just head to sildurs at least his is free,there are a lot of free shaders there!
he has a free version https://sonicether.com/download/seus-renewed-v1-0-0/
this shaderpack isn't free?!
This shader pack shown here is basically real-time ray tracing and isn't ready for pubilc release. Thus he is funding the development through the gold tier.
Are the shaders free
They will be
hi
Hello, i'm very poor, i selled my son for pack of rice. Can you please send me these for free? i don't understand dollars, i just wanna play minecraft all my life, my family already hates me for selling my son. please, thank you.
i have a problem with the texture pack. When i load in a world, my whole screen is covered by weird colors and the different blocks in Minecraft for some reason. I don't know how to get it away
Does anyone happen to know what texture pack is that in the picture?
https://www.patreon.com/umsoea that texure is this
jeez
though
hough sory misspell
hopefully it will be fixed later on hough
thats a bug Miguel its just a Glitch :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI0M7mieb0E
i ried to use the shaderpack that ws used with he ray tracing and i got a black void vision i couldn't see my specs: Nvidia GEFORCE GTX 1070 FTW EVGA 16gb ram core i5 8600 CPU @ 3.10 Ghz 1TB Hard drive
will this run well with a gtx 1070 ? and how much does this cost ?
umm my end rods will emit light in hand put not when placed:/
LeL
hmm
when can we get this free?
Can someone send me the system specs for having this shader before installing?
I don't have the download link
could emisive maps be enabled, have textures that make redstone, rails and other stuf "glow"(not light emiting, just ignore the sorounding light) when powered. And with the E8 that i tried they did not work properly and dident light up in the dark.
hey um what is the least laggy version. thanks.
I have an rx 580 and when loading a world my mine craft crashes. The last thing in the log is "...[Shaders] : Reset model renderer. " and "... [Shaders] : Reset world renderer.". I'm not sure if this has anything to do with the crash but that's where it freezes. No errors anywhere though.
Once you have all the bugs kinked out with E10, what's next? How much more tech needs to be put in until the project hits beta?
@Sonic Ether once you've streamlined the amd experience, do you intend on adding animations to the grass/trees etc like your vanilla version? i really love the vanilla version but want ray tracing on it too. Also I've noticed that unlike the your vanilla version you can't see the sky while under water.
Which resource pack(s) can i use in 1.8? My friends are playing on a multiplayer server that uses 1.8 minecraft
Which resource pack is this in the screenshot?
could be umsoea or ultimate immersion's textures not sure tho
What editions of Minecraft do these shaders work on? Do they work on windows 10? Because that is the main one I use. Thanks
Is there any possibility or will there come a future support of 1.12.2 to amd gpus
I have a RX 580 and if I try to load a world or change dimensions while in fullscreen the game freezes. Forgetting to exit full screen when going through a portal is a pain.
minecraft is now partnering with nvidia to push rtx on win10 edition (-> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCfuZSEFzIg)
Bedrock is nothing but a pale imitation of Java with worse mod support and microtransactions. No thank you.
Where is link to this shaders?
Thoughts on the RTX-minecraft announcement that nvidia just put on their youtube?
note to dumb people: scroll down for download E8
wie kommt man an diese shader ran ? kann die nirgendwo downloaden BITTE UM HILFE
Jo, du kannst die Shader hier auf der Seite downloaden (die PTGI Shader zumindest), die anderen auf der SEUS-Seite. Wichtig ist aber auch zum downloaden, dass du Gold Tier hast (-> 10$). Um sie hier von der Seite zu downloaden, musst du auf den entsprechenden Post gehen, am Ende des Posts (ganz unten) ist dann die Datei als .zip angehängt. Aktuell ist der PTGI E8 die neueste Version. Als Tipp nebenbei, die entsprechenden Posts mit den Download sind mit "[Download]" gekennzeichnet.
I've become a patron how do I download the shader?
I have GTX 1060 OC, will this work with a non-RTX card?
Yeah, the whole concept of SEUS PTGI is that it doesn't need the chip on the RTX cards. Everything besides water runs great on my GTX 970
When is e9 releasing. Cant support after this month
Hi
what version of optifine works best with this shader pack
I noticed in E8 when it rains, the ground gets wet indoors even when the block is under another block or otherwise indoors.
Hey Bro im not sure if this is the right place to post it but when i visit the http://sonicether.com website it askes for my username and paaword i have seen someojne with this problem on reddit here is there post Hi there, I’ve been trying to install SEUS for Minecraft 1.14.4, but when I go to Sonic Ether’s site to download it, I’m met with a sign-in popup. How do I access Sonic Ether’s site?
same problem but he dont answere here?! Thats stinky we are supporting him and he dont answere here
hopefully this gets released soon, I recently bought an rx 590 and can't even use seus renewed without it crashing.
why do i need to log in to access your website?
will slime transparency / waving plants be resolved (I know they're trifles compared to the big things you are working on)
Hey Bro im not sure if this is the right place to post it but when i visit the http://sonicether.com website it askes for my username and paaword i have seen someojne with this problem on reddit here is there post Hi there, I’ve been trying to install SEUS for Minecraft 1.14.4, but when I go to Sonic Ether’s site to download it, I’m met with a sign-in popup. How do I access Sonic Ether’s site?
I have the same problem.
Can you ask the Optifine creater to optimize older version of minecraft like 1.12.2 since that is the new modding standard? I am getting an AMD GPU soon and don't want bad framerates. BTW PTGI 5, 6, and 7 don't work on 1.7.10 or 1.6.4
They aren’t meant to
Is this possible to port back to 1.8.9? I frequently use 1.8.9 for creative builds.
So is the developer of optifine planning on grandfathering these features for past version? Just because there arent any decent modpacks for the newer versions of minecraft.
ok
Damn, the amount of work you've put into this is incredible; amazing work and kudos, my man.
Hi, I have the same problem as the guy above and I just signed up. Please help! : )
Hey Bro im not sure if this is the right place to post it but when i visit the http://sonicether.com website it askes for my username and paaword i have seen someojne with this problem on reddit here is there post Hi there, I’ve been trying to install SEUS for Minecraft 1.14.4, but when I go to Sonic Ether’s site to download it, I’m met with a sign-in popup. How do I access Sonic Ether’s site?
I just noticed, it also pops up an OpenGL error: 1282(Invalid operation)
I did, finally, get E8 running on my RX-570. My only issue is missing water and glass textures. When I load into a map, it comes up with 2 errors. [Shaders] Error: Invalid Program "composite", and, [Shaders] Error: Invalid Program "composite4"
When do you think this will come out?
i have no access to the website which supposedly has the download-links to the older shaders. how do i get there?
yeah where is the download?
You have to pay dumb fuck. Read the damn patron page
where do we download it?
This is dev news not release
Im Very excited for the next update, ive wanted to play minecraft with these shaders but its so laggy with the rx 580
Hey, I have an rx580 and it doesn't crash, the fps is okay, like 32 fps higher settings, but it is kinda glitched
If you bring accurate tracing to custom models I seriously have no words...
Sadly i cant lanuch your shader if i buy it FUCK WHY I HAVENT MONEY
where can I download ?
When he releases it. It's not done yet lol
Glad you're working on AMD support even though I have an Nvidia card, it'll be worth it.
I know that you are doing a big work here with this new type of shader, but when do you think you've finished all the work? So that you can also release the free version
5700xt here, despite a couple of broken "features" of the shader on PTGI 8, Can't wait for version 9!
epic
YEEEY. It's nice to see you bought the same amd card then me, that way I know It will work fine on mine. I waited a long time for this :D
Keep up the great work
Hey just curious, are you using a texture along with your shaders in the pic above
I get a composite error 2 and 4, when I enter the game, but some stuff works others do not https://plays.tv/video/5d4cbbc6e8ed00a4e5/vega-64-seus-ptgi-e8-test
Glad I dropped AMD cards awhile ago, they're cheaper but I kept running into issues with performance in a lot of games.
Keep up the great work!
So is the new Optifine version out? I looked the other day and couldn’t find it.
Yep, it just came out two days ago :)