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guess we’re all ringing in the new year with palm.. lets just ignore that and focus on the fact that no one has ever loved anyone more than killua loves gon
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Palm clearly does not see gon in a sexual way, and gon knows that, palm is just silly, no serious shit is going on, and this was never mentioned badly later on because there was nothing to begin with, I watched this show an unhealthy amount of times, so i can tell You should only take it sarcasticly
very late, but its still weird as fuck and very innecessary.
I don't remember if Palm's age is stated but if it helps we can think she's like leorio where she's like 15 but just looks taller/older
They literally say in the show she's 22
you guys remind me of a comedian called nicole jenes, you got the same accent as her, especially lola
Love the girls love of Killua's love
If she didn’t view the date as romantic there would be no issue. The anime could’ve made Pam more depressed than murderous and have the date be Gon trying to pull her out of it because he feels responsible. Pam views Gon as cute and says something to the effect of “you’re going to make a great bf/husband for someone when you grow up”. Seen it done in loads of shows.
The sad thing about palm, and it'll be more clear later, is that she is so mentally unwell and dependent on validation. There's no way I'm defending her and I believe this whole storyline was unnecessary and weird, but it does show more of her character. She just wants to be appreciated and treated nicely and gon gave her that. Of course its problematic because he's a child and nothing can make that okay, but I don't think she had any ill intentions towards him. She just wanted someone to be nice to her and appreciate her. Again, since so many comments are defending it, I'm really not. I just think she's sad and worthy of pity, that's all. I also think maybe that's what the author wanted to show with this side story, at least that's my interpretation of it after next episode.
This comment section is crazy. Obviously palms a pedophile and this whole thing was disgusting.
Let’s just be brutally honest… Double standards are real. Men & women just think different. That’s why it’s very common for men to joke and laugh about hot teachers banging their male students. There’s a reason why that’s a common fantasy when it comes to boys. Men are dogs the moment we hit that age and our balls drop. On the other hand we’re more protective when it comes to girls. It just doesn’t make any moral sense. It’s just how our brain works. A lot of masculine cultures perpetuate it more than others. So that’s why it’s less uncomfortable for me to see Palm being a creep than say Hisoka…or the show Usagi Drop. (Please don’t watch that garbage)
Thats not "just how the brain works", it's our culture propagating beliefs like that
Isnt Pam like a teenager? Like leorio ?
Apparently she is 22
I have seen a shocking number of people defending or excusing Pam and even Hisoka. It’s disturbing.
People defend palm?
damn yall crazy
Palm isn't even the most disgusting character this arc. She's mentally unstable and young herself. Wait until you see how her teacher speaks to her. Total manipulation played off like a joke/romance. Makes me wonder where she learned this was ok.
“I dub this place the Meat Plantation” is still the funniest line in the show to me. It’s not even a comedic line, but it’s so blunt.
* beautiful panoramic views from a literal ivory tower* Meruem: I dub this place the Slop Factory 😤☝️
I think Palm is a fun character but some of her 'tendencies' are definitely handled in poor taste.
Japanese pedophilia in pop culture AKA Lolicon is a thing. Let's compare it to Racism. I would say Racism is objectively adverse and as an American, we've made noticeable progress in addressing and rectifying it. Racism won't end anytime soon but I can imagine a day it does since it's a belief/ bias that's passed down or ignorantly adopted. The perseverance of open debate and empathy are key in that regard. On the other hand, I don't believe the same can be said about pedophilia. We're great at condemning and punishing the many horrible outcomes of pedophilia. However, the stigma alone prevents open debate and who in the world is sick enough to empathize with pedophiles? The causes of pedophilia are not well known and since there's a possibility that it's a naturally occurring sexual orientation, a lack of tact will only prolong this societal discrepancy. TLDR: I like Palm and Hisoka and as long as they're not sexually abusing kids, I'm fine with them being creepy freaks.
I would agree up until the point about the causes not being well known. This conversation gets way too deep and extensive to have in a hxh comment section lol, but there is extensive research on causes for pedophilia. Research has and always will be done, and its out there go look! As a society it is very easy to scapegoat different awful things such as pedophilia into seeming like the most atrocious things, beyond murder. We are dealing with countless murderers in a show like this. LOSS OF LIFE on an incredible scale, but pedophilia takes the cake as the worst attribute a human can have? It is really fascinating. They are all awful, damaging traits that have come from damage done to the individual in the first place. A perpetrator was always a victim first in my eyes at least.
Even though Palm is 22, she has a mental age of 12, and Gon is probably more mature in terms of people skills. I'm in no way shipping both of them, but its clear Palm has no bad intentions like corrupting young boys and I think Gon sees that. Gon is open to people without judging them, while Lola sees it as black and white like "one adult, one child, always very wrong". It's not like they're doing anything sexual, they're just talking, going to aquariums and parks, looking at trees, it's not THAT bad people.
did you READ the words you posted???? One adult and one child is ALWAYS VERY WRONG? What the hell is wrong with you? Any adult lusting after children is fucked in the head don't make excuses
Yea this one is always a uncomfortable watch. But i can say palm’s character improves drastically throughout the arc and she serves a real purpose and the whole weirdo/pedo stuff gets dropped. Doesnt hurt the arc for me at all and its still my fav arc oat but if she stayed the way she was it definitely wouldve changed my rating. Once yall make it through ep 94 it all the palm nonsense should be over
honestly i love palm, she's weird but such a great character, just can't say much without spoiling the show
Yeah the palm stuff is weird. Hisoka was at least an antagonist and very intentionally creepy and frankly a subversion of the occasional anime problematic “character falls in love with an underaged character” thing by having it be straight pedophilia and upfront (still gets less hate than Ging btw, this fandom is wild). Palm thing is just weird and played for comedy 🤷♂️. She gets better as a character but this was pointless as a plot beat.
Both the waterfall/pond scene and Hisoka looking at the two from behind afterwards are played for 'comedy' also. I can only think of a few more creepy scenes, so I personally argue the pedophilia for humor thing is omnipresent in the show sadly.
I always differenciated Hisoka and Palm regarding their relationship with Gon. Hisoka's attraction to power makes him sexually attracted to Gon, making him, among other things pedophilic. While Palm's behavior is definitely uncomfortable to watch, I never really saw her being attracted to Gon himself but moreso to the idea of being in love and needed. When they first meet, she goes on a never ending ramble about love and fantasize about how her relationship to her master could or could not be described as romantic. Throughout their training arc, Gon has ticked every single box she had in terms of "what love is" by his actions and the way he was speaking to her. Getting to know her, asking her for advice, showing her courage, he basically treated her the same as he treats anyone else (contrary to Killua for example), and while it was normal for him to do so, Palm interpreted that completely differently. To me that behavior was just another way to show her mental instability and obsessiveness. Gon is the one that really shocked me on the other hand. The implication that he might've been abused by older women (we're still not sure about what "things" he was referring to, could've been more innocent), and the way he handled a grown ass adult trying to seduce him almost made it seem like he knew what he was doing? Maybe you'll need to watch the next episode to see what I'm talking about, but I'm not sure it really fits his character. Like, we know Gon isn't innocent by now. He has been exposed to a lot, especially violence, and his ambiguous morality at time is to me a direct consequence of that innocence. The fact that he spent most of his childhood in a forest almost like an animal (that comparison was made multiple times) was what made him so ignorant and foreign to any complex human structures and conflicts. So it seems weird for Togashi to suddenly insert things such as pedophilia and prostitution in his time on whale island. But maybe it's just me. Anyway I would definitely consider that episode and short plotline as the weakest in the show. Not necessarily for Palm's behavior since I don't think it strays away from her character but more by Gon whose action kinda contradicts the point of his character a little bit.
I think it just shows that we really don’t know much about Gon before he left the island. He doesn’t really process things normally. I’ve always wondered if he’s relied exclusively on other peoples aura to judge things. Aura that has bad intent behind it is bad, aura without intent is fine. Doesn’t matter to him if the calmer aura comes from killers and other ne’er-do-wells.
hxh is my all time favourite anime and probably my second favourite franchise of all time (and i dont even watch anime/manga anymore) and i can still say i also really dont like this paedophilic palm 'saga' and most hxh fans agree. thankfully it really doesnt drag on though so it doesnt ruin the arc/show or anything like that.
Happy New year !
Not gonna lie chief… I think this is the worst episode of hunter x hunter ever. We also learned some things about Gon..and Palm is a pedo, pls people don’t defend her..but .. yeah… this episode wasn’t necessary at all besides the Killua stuff and we now know Kite might be alive. And people say this arc is a 10/10 with such a horrible episode in it lol anyways don’t jump me HxH fans. Is just my opinion (๑・̑◡・̑๑)
The arc can still be a 10/10 even with one trash episode of palm lol the rest the arc is great
No no wait, Milena got it right. Gon met real pedophiles in his village and they actually taught him "things", Palm is a pedophile but she is not dating Gon because he is 10 years younger than her but because she is in love with the idea of love
I don't think there is any evidence that gon experienced anything sexual, but random women wanting to have a tour with Gon is creepy
yea i block out the palm stuff this episode lol on the brightside, at least we see some interesting stuff with the king and killua
Heres a reminder that Hunter x Hunter is a show/manga made for kids. The author thought the comedic antics of a grown woman dating a child was appropriate for children to watch.
also I love how you both said you wanted to forget the palm thing, because that is what I did! I rewatched the show when you started reacting, and good god, meeting palm again was such a shock. I had completely forgotten everything about her lol
I don't think Palm has the worst storyline, she is important and has an interesting character development
Ehh.. she is important for only one thing. I won’t say what it is because of spoilers but even that thing is just purely eh..that’s all I’m going to say.
Happy new year guys! Hope you both have a fab Christmas Honestly there was absolutely 0 reason Togashi had to make Palm an adult, all of this would have worked just the same if she'd been 14 or something. Instead it completely muddies an otherwise good episode with unabashed pedophilia. It's such a shame as well because I think Hisoka being a nonce in a twisted way adds to his character, and really hammers home just how perverse the shounen trope of characters being obsessed with fighting and battle is. For Palm though it's just treated as a joke, which really undermines everything I think he did with Hisoka's predatory nature. Really is the only thing in the show I think is objectively bad, but thankfully it doesn't overstay its welcome.
Pretty much. Can't hit 100% of the time and this is a miss
woooooo ty LM! <3
Agreed to ignore Palm xD
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