A Post-American Alliance for the Middle East || Aug 13, 2026
Pakistan, Turkey, and Saudi Arabia are entertaining a NATO-style mutual defense pact. While this alliance might not be practical at this moment, it's a much different conversation in the long run.
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DJT is a perennial loser himself. He must lie, cheat, or steal in order to when at anything. He proves every day that he lacks any integrity when he turns on friends and makes them into new enemies. That is a seriously unredeemable trait of his.
The country that's probably least prepared for the post-American world is the US.
THIS IS A COMPARISON OF PROXIMATE VS ULTIMATE OF OUR CURRENT SITUATIONS: The dark Triad, Corruption, exploitation, Wars, Etc. There is a term in Psychology called the dark Triad, that explains it's evolutionary roots and wide effects society today. U We evolved as hunter-gatherers, with a population within the Dunbar number of 150, if they was one of the group that was disruptive they would be spoken to or shunned, however a violent person who would not obey could be eliminated. However with the Advent of agriculture which allowed us to store food and and build the world we know today and all of its benefits however there is a side Society grew to thousands, hundreds of thousand and Millions, a leader assessing the dark Triad , could protect themselves by having a cohort of supporters for protection and this made it very difficult to eliminate them. Throughout history this has been repeated Untold times and caused Untold deaths and loss. Russia is a current example of this. There is an intriguing parallel in our primate relatives. Robert Sapolsky's long-term study of baboons in Kenya provided an unexpected natural experiment. After a disease outbreak killed many of the troop's most aggressive males, the troop became substantially more peaceful and socially tolerant. Remarkably, when new males subsequently entered the troop, they largely adopted its more peaceful social norms. The lesson isn't that aggressive individuals should be eliminated. Human beings obviously cannot—and should not—solve social problems that way. The objective is not to eliminate difficult or unusually dominant people. Some of the very traits that can be destructive in positions of political or institutional power—extreme persistence, fearlessness, emotional detachment, and determination—can sometimes be valuable in other circumstances. The challenge is to create institutions that allow those characteristics to be useful without allowing them to become a pathway to unchecked power. Scientia Non Domus Habet, (Knowledge Has No Home) antiguajohn
I think this alliance doesn’t make sense at all in conventional sense. Only military worthy of its name that doesn’t have any imminent threat is Turkey. As they have already settled most pressing issues across their borders, they are the ones with extra bandwidth too. Energy-wise, Turks get it from Northern Iraq and with the latest deal also became co-owners of those oil fields. There is gas coming from Azerbaijan too. And Russia as long as they can supply. So I think Turks clearly see Saudis are in stress and that they’ve got their pockets full of money, so they jump in to say sure friend we’ll help, here some ancient carpets too, i’ll give you big discount. Basically the same experience you’ll get as a tourist in Istanbul 😃 Qatar was the initial customer of Turkish security guarantee, also transferring a lot funds to Turkey through investments, Saudis can easily do 10 times more, so I would assume Turkeys fighter jet just became financially feasible, also other defense industry projects will be swimming in money. Pakistan is also in for the same reason but I think they won’t get as much as Saudi juice as Turkey. Only in for the nuclear umbrella and when they are needed to do so, they can disrupt China supply chain to Iran, although in any country with ethnic minority secessionist movement in a border region, I think it will be hard as state authority can get especially low these places, Pakistan’s Baluchistan region is in the Iranian border. So probably we will see Pakistan relocating some of its nukes to Saudi Arabia, to then leave them there for good, for a few billion dollars.
What is Turkey’s cost/benefit calculation for staying with NATO and EU today and how might that change going forward?
Tell me more about the Blue Cheese angle. I wasn’t tracking that development!
Can you go into more depth about the various alliances that have formed over the Sudan civil war and Ethiopia possibly “breaking out” as a regional power to the point that Turkey and Egypt are actively trying to counter them.
Maybe the Turks need to take Crimea! After all, they have a historical claim. There putie, suck that one.
So you don't think a ground invasion is likely?
Talk about why the energy crisis you predicted in July didn’t happen
SPR is at record lows thanks to drumpf
Been waiting for this conversation. Thanks
One other point about post-U.S. "alliances" is that most or all will not be credible. In addition to points mentioned, military expeditionary capability is a primary factor. There are very few countries that think about war or conflict as an away game, most military logistics systems are built for home defense or conflict with a neighbor. Deploying and sustaining military forces far from home is really, really hard and takes not only a capable blue water navy and strategic airlift, but the intricate network of bases and territories that the U.S. is now abandoning.
This is something DJT ignores to his continual detriment. Friendships and allies can never be regained by someone who stabs others in the back for defying his will.
OMG WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF MUNITIONS! https://youtube.com/shorts/5bGAwBsB2J4?is=6YnyLc--DS4tjdc2
Now that was a funny video. Thanks for sharing the perspective. Detroit LOL! OMFG 🤬
So it is not NATO, but likely an economic alliance, like EU. Where some of the traded goods are might be also weaponry.
Peter, did I hear correctly? Saudi Arabia is not currently the largest oil exporter; the US is. We export 10 million barrels a day. The Saudis are third behind Putin's playground.
