[PUBLIC EPISODE] The Wizard, the Witch and the Wild One: ep015 “Hold On Tight"
Everything that rises must converge, and baby, we are FLYING.
It's good to be back.
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Comments (195)
Gotta say, this is truly one of the (many) times when having access to the Patreon absolutely elevates the experience of the podcast! Like, the scene of Grandma Wren warning Ame away from using her magic for evil hits so much harder having had access to the Witch Class and knowledge of the Wicked Coven! It's not just narrative flavor, it's actually mechanically backed up! Amazing storytelling
Also! Knowing Eursolon's fighting style is Protector, his title of Suvi's Guardian hits so much harder too <3
Suvi: “modify memory cannot come quickly enough!” Careful what you wish for
The GROVE of the WELL y'all! Y'ALL. (1:21:30)!!!
A witch in the world Its beneficent wisdom Demanding and wide
The death of light, the end of might / The all-consuming dread of night. Mirara is very interesting, but ominous. Though I think Witches are more nuanced.
Oh cool, this episode destroyed me.
Pretty sure at the end Taylor says Worlds Beyond Numbered in the end credits.l and I love it
I really want a spinoff series or maybe like a comic called "Children of Thraum" where various descendants of Thraum find out they can they can summon a powerful warlock to help them with whatever shenanigans
My gooooooodness are Erika and Brennan a Masterclass in voice acting in this episode.
Episodes like this make me want a collection of Grandma Ren's speeches for when my kiddo asks tough questions or goes through tough times. If y'all could throw that together, that'd be great
The naming convention lore!!!! I have so many questions! Steel clarifies that not all wizards get ‘S’ names, which we see with Galani and Morrow (forgive my guesstimated spelling), but what is the threshold? Is it only the cream of the crop that get ‘S’ names - if so, is there a letter of descending importance for more tiers? Most of all, WHO WERE THE FIRST 2 SKYS??? What is the called shot?? Gosh I love this podcast. Lore is the best.
I loved this episode so much! I think it was my favourite one so far! I'm not sure where we ask questions for the fireside, and I know the fireside chat for this episode already went out, but I really want to know: When Ame Said "Ms. Morara" and then some spring peepers started to peep again, was that an indication that Morara was... amused? Had a moment of gentleness? Was Ame reducing her power/presence somehow by addressing her respectfully as any other person? Was it the lack of fear? I'm so curious about why that happened!
Oh! Nevermind, I found the link to the form to ask questions!
https://archiveofourown.org/works/49423960/chapters/124728100 In case anyone else was searching for the Will Gallows fic Aabria and Erika mentioned
Bless you.
I love Grandma Wren so much. I am sobbing over her "I will love you just the same" speech. Words my grandma would say to me if she were still here. Thanks you guys. It's magical.
Ahhwwww and the “I love you” 🥰💖
Oh man, feeling all the same feels again as the very first time listening 🥰 Only 40 mins in but so thankful the structure of WBN lets you get this in-depth into one character’s backstory, I’m so here for Grandma Ren’s philosophy and worldview and can’t wait for all the gorgeous fan art of everyone!! 🌈✨ Just stepped away from the ep for a sec to come here and gush a bit / beg for Carly Monardo or ViralVisal to draw Grandma Ren waving her broom in the air while Ame shouts “BENEFICENT WISDOM!!” 🥺🙏
When does the Fireside for this come out?
Everything usually comes out Tuesday or Wednesday. I got on to check but since it's not on now it'll be tomorrow. They're usually good about saying if it's gonna be late though
Thank you all for such an amazing episode! Out of curiosity, do you know when the transcript might be available? Having it to listen along with really helps with understanding and following the story. Thank you again <3
We don't know when, but Taylor said in the fan-run Discord that they're working on it!
I want a welcome mat that says “of open hand and trusting face, a home of homes does all embrace” so bad 😭❤️
dear merch team!!!
When is the fireside chat? I don’t see any mention of it anywhere
my guess is tomorrow. The firesides have been consistently released on Tuesdays. fingers crossed anyways
I’ve listened to this episode 4 times, and I’m just blown away every time, because I notice something new everytime. This last time, I finally listened not in my backyard, and I realized those chicken sounds in the farm background are not the chickens in my own backyard, but intentional sound. Taylor is knocking it out of the park every time, I swear.
But also, I have the overwhelming urge to make jook lol
The Granma Wren speech to Almay , "My love for you is not built upon what you can do for this world." I cried HARD. As a mom, I only wish I had the wisdom of Grandmother Wren to be able to impart the best advice to my kid.
I am a witch, and Ame's story inspires my own spirituality. Thank you Worlds Beyond Number for connecting on such a visceral level that you inspire my faith ❤️
Can’t believe it’s only been out for 4 days. Listened 3 times already! (Yay for commutes lol.) How do we wait another week 1/2?!
Cried before the 6 minute mark - new personal record
TAYLOR MOORE GIVE ME THE MUSIC FOR AME’S FIRST FLIGHT RN
come 'n' get it -t
Also... Im gonna call it now and put it on the table. The Witch of the Fire (i dont remember the rest of her title) was the gaurdian of the deserts and desolate places and the apprentice that betrayed her is the Wizard who founded the Citadel.
I'm super impressed that Ame has knowledge of the human ovum. Microbiology in magic!
"I just dont understand whats happening to me. I just feel things all the time." Ooooh teenagers.
Had to say, I'm listening to the broom ride right now and the sound design is AMAZING and made me feel too many things that I ended up crying?? DAMN Y'ALL
Ugh. This is so good.
Can Brennan please be my dad? 🥲 (Also loved the subtle dig at Dumbledore ...)
I was looking for someone to mention this!!! I cackled aloud when he said “I feel like if I wait any longer it will be irresponsible.”
God what a return! Absolutely inspiring ❤️
THE PARALLELS BETWEEN AME AND SUVI IN THIS EP ARE OFF THE CHARTS
Still haven't seen this on YouTube. They have 0-14 and the two County Affair eps. Anyone else run into this problem?
Videos are uploaded to YouTube about a week after their initial release.
Where is Ghost???
My inner child has never felt more seen than during Ame's post-spring-festival breakdown. So much love for her, especially as someone who also spent years mistaking "people to whom I am related" for "family."
Anyone else having issues on apple with this one not tracking / restarting after each pause???
Yes -- I deleted the ep and re-downloaded it and that seemed to fix it!
Is it meant to cut off while Erika is speaking at 53 minutes?
Exact same thing happened to me. I redownloaded, and there’s like an hour more!
Tears at the broom flight music, tears for Ame, tears as The Fox can finally rest... everything, team. Everything's magic.
Brennan as Grandma Wren is probably the best NPC I’ve ever heard played out. She’s perfect. Brennan, Erika, Lou, and Aabria are magical.
Brennan’s fantastic narration, Erika’s beautiful reaction, and Taylor’s amazing music really made me feel like I was soaring during the flying scene.
Also will there be a transcript made available? I need to write down ALL THE THINGS ABOUT THE WITCHEs
Ok but how long until the kitschy lenticular citadel art exists so I can put it on my fridge and wish it was real!!! So seriously
I MISSED Y'ALL SO MUCH AAAAAAAA
I desperately need a map or digram of the Citadel cuz oh boy is it hard for me to visualize fully lol
sobbed & screamed & laughed & loved this whole episode. you are truly making art that touches people’s hearts.
it is not on youtube at all yet and simplecast says it's only 8 minutes long? 😥
For some reason it doesn’t show this as a playable episode in the Patreon app for me :(
Our public episodes are available via the public feed available anywhere you get your podcasts. Check out the instruction manual pinned as the top post for help getting all the right audio in the right places. -t
made the mistake of making this while cooking dinner. at least my tears salted the chicken a bit more i guess. this was so good the minute it ended i went to go listen to it again. i will never be the same.
The Doctor and the Fox for sure went through an enemies to friends arc during the coma
... now I need to hear this
Gotta stop making me cry at work. One of these days someone's gonna catch me. Also coven lore!!!!! I need to know everything about all the w witches!!!!
"Great question. Let's spend the rest of our lives figuring it out." 🥹
"Pants... Are leg prisons."
I have a very set head cannon that the girl who Ame hit in this episode is the same girl who brought her husband to Ame in the first episode. Thoughts?
i don’t think so, unless they fully talked it out and forgave each other at some point in the middle. there seemed to be no hard feelings or bad blood between them in the first episode, so if they had fights like that in the past, i feel like there would be animosity
Imagining the pure and utter terror Grandma Wren felt when she realized all the years and training she’d given Ame had been locked away by a curse and she had almost run out of time to do anything 😭
Makes you wonder what the curse made Ame think she was doing this whole time
that grandmother Wren moment when she's exclaiming "everyone always says its dire!" had huge Arthur Aguefort energy and I'm here for it
Hey is anyone else using overcast on apple? The new ep is cut off at 58 mins for me
Same here
I love quietly SOBBING at my desk 😭 Beautiful, emotional episode that I was entirely unprepared for ♥️
THEY'RE BACK, THEY'RE BACK, THEY'RE BACK (thanks guys, I missed trying not to cry at work, the scenes with Grandma Wren were magnificent <3)
This was easily my favorite episode so far! I love the way witches are explained as stewards to their respective crafts and bridges between worlds, and the episode went even deeper into it. Any scenes with Grandma Wren are a gift (holy cow the broom flight, the sweeping music, it was so cinematic in my mind), and little Ame is soooo adorable (RIP her very special cat mug?), BUT THE SHOW STOPPER FOR ME WAS THE WITCH OF THE WANING MOON. I'm waiting for the transcript to spell her name properly, but the moment she entered the scene, I was ENAMORED. I could ramble about every character, every beat of this episode, how cool Suvi's decision is, the wizard roomba, but goodbye my heart, because the very tall, masked, spooky lady cloaked in the pitchest shadows of the night stole more than just a cat mug in this episode.
One last thing, the line "because they're not trying to be good" from Grandma Wren to a frustrated Ame was so resounding. In such simple words, it brought so much resolve. How do you do it it Brennan?!
Not good for running errands I cried like 3 times. Love it
I'm so so delighted
Hodgepodge panoply, what a descriptioooon!
The broom flight song is AMAZING, all the witch background is AMAZING, the acting is AMAZING you're all AMAZING
Dear GOD, that broom flight score had me WEEPING ON THE BUS. Amazing amazing amazing. I love this podcast so much.
Congratulations guys, you’re opening my senses to what can be created and how valuable storytelling depth is… like a vitamin. Contributing to my life; keep going! Also starting Arc 2 by introducing more of what is under the iceberg of the infrastructure of the story… you got my knickers all a teasies. Engaged, that means you got me engaged. 😂😅😂. Keep rockin’!
Oh my GOD THIS EPISODE
I was in tears by minute four, f you all
I’m having this issue on Overcast too. Went to Spotify to listen to the rest of the episode.
I don’t know why, but on apple podcasts it’s only 53 minutes or so and if you pause, exit, or try to fast forward it restarts the episode 😭 I’ve listened to Brennan say “Autumn” a couple dozen times now
It’s not just you! I had this problem too - had to jump over to Spotify to finish it up.
We’re back!! Ahhhh what an amazing first Ep for Arc 2! I loved the part where Grandma Wren infodumped everything useful for Ame haha no mysterious “you’ll figure it out” hero mentor bs for her she’s got no time for those games
"You got your cheeks in the wind!" 😂😂😂😂
That was incredibly beautiful. Thanks for doing what you do.
Y'all made me cry in my car on the way to work. Incredible, I'm so excited for this arc
There’s something that has felt really special about relistening to the children’s episodes, finishing them up today, and then listening to this one. Listening to grandma wren and Ame is perfection 🥹
Amazing to be back! Every talk with Grandma Wren was equally heartbreaking and awe-inspiring. But on the other hand... we got a cute sleepy Fox!
Last we saw the Fox, he lost consciousness when Ame did. Guess he woke up first...and started biting anyone who got near her (except Eursalon).
AAAAHHHHH!!!!! That was amazing. I hate that I have to wait for the next one!!!
idk about y’all but the sound of picking up a backpack, putting it on a chair, opening it, pulling something out, closing it, and putting it down hits different
The sheer versatility. Unmatched.
The fact that even Grandma Wren was like "Yeah that dude is really scary; if he shows up, do NOT let him in this house or THE WORLD MIGHT END" makes The Stranger all the more terrifying. Also makes me infinitely more curious what direction the campaign would have taken if Ame had! Also, gotta say, just as a general note, I am consistently delighted by how instinctively Brennan and Erika both "get" the shape of a fairy tale. Like, when Erika offered Marara her hand in greeting, and Brennan went "Did you offer me something, child?" and you could FEEL Erika hitch with hesitation as if sensing a trap whose shape she couldn't define? And then Marara threatening to TAKE that hand later??? So good. My brain knows it couldn't possibly have been planned, but the notion of it having been improvised is just so wild. Truly some next-level fantasy storytelling jazz. I adore this setting's blend of Shinto-like animistic spiritualism, and the extremely Celtic notion that dealing with fairy folk is essentially super high-stakes contract law. Can't wait for Marara to come back and sue Ame for promissory estoppel.
BLeeM NPCs dropping incredible lines as always. "We accept these distinctions for their utility, and often do not see the price we pay for that usefulness."
I could feel heart swell with pure joy listening 💛 thank you thank you thank you!
Somehow Taylor's sound design has gotten EVEN better.✨️ Pure magic. ✨️ Brennan arguing with himself and shaming the Fox left me rolling.
There are so few stories that have gotten me to feel the sense of wonder that I felt when I was kid watching the scene of Avatar: TLA where Aang has to speak with Koh the Face Stealer. This show has managed it a few times. It's unlike any other podcast out there. Brennan, you've truly proven yourself to understand something key to the genre that Ursula K Le Guin did. That fantasy isn't just a tool for (re)imagining the past, it's a powerful means of imagining other worlds and in doing so (re) imagining our own.
Good ol' John the Face Stealer and his rascally ways. J-man as he's better known by the air nomads.
Is it just me or is 2 hrs not enough!!!!!!!
Hey Guys, I use the castbox app on a pixel and only 53 minutes of this episode have uploaded. Just a heads up in case that has happened on other platforms.
Same happened on Overcast
Taylor's music as Ami takes flight with Grandma Ren is so full of swelling exuberance that tears sprung to my eyes instantly. This is so good!!!
Wait...Brennan and Aabria...did you literally make S-Tier wizards a thing in this world?
oh my god .
i’m still in the first hour and I’m crying at work
Suvi absolutely fumbling the first role is exactly the kind of thing I’m here for, Congratulations on arc 2 can’t wait for more!
So when does the Suvi as sexy gargoyle fan art start rolling in?
Brennan's over here making me sob by saying you don't need to do anything to earn my love, you earn it every second of every day by just being you. How dare you make me cry like that!!!!!! (But honestly, I adore this episode so much and y'all have done an amazing job)
Same!!!! 😭😭😭
😭😭so.😭beau.😭tiful.😭 Instantly started crying at Grandmother Wren's first calling out for help with the table. Didn't stop, though there was definite squealing at the flight scene (TAYLOR!! UGH!!), Suvi waking up *ahemyespleaseandthankyou*, and the running through the Citadel (TAYLOR!!! AGAIN!! GAH!!).
HEY TAYLOR WHAT THE FUCK with this flying music, the joy and exhilaration brought me to tears
Also the Citadel Unveiled music, just sparkles on the ear (so to speak)
ame got loredumped, eursalons been chilling, and suvi fucked!!! delightful
Is this the first we’re learning of what happened at the Citadel??? Who is “Ruv”? Why did they attack the Citadel?
The Ruve Imperium is one of the nations at war with the Empire (the war that Citadel wizards are being trained for and sent off to). That's where Captain Emliss is assumed to be from due to the kind of magic she used as "a chalice."
THE SCORE BEHIND THE FLYING SCENE. I am fully deceased. Taylor continues to murder us all.
ITS HEEEEEERE
The interactions between mechanics and world building going on with the covens and titles is very interesting. Props to Brennan on that. Also, Grandmother Wren is the character Brennan was born to play, which is kinda obvious since he wrote her for himself, but damn, she's SO GOOD. And again I say I PITY the people who are listening to this without having heard The Children's Adventure, 'cause it just hits so much harder with that context.
Happy birthday to me! Thank you for the present!
a full hour of Ame backstory and 1x1 😭 I cannot wait to go back and re-listen to this when I'm not at work and can fully enjoy all of Taylor's sounds design
Omg omg omg this episode!!! 🦊🧙♀️
Taylor - THE FLYING THEME!!!! Beautiful, uplifting, joyful 🥹😭❤️
This was SO good!! I gotta know, were Aabria and whoever Lou had guest star freaking out like I was while they had to listen for like an hour and a half?
I'M SO FUCKING EXCITED TO LISTEN TO THIS IT'S UNREAL GRAAAAAAAAAAH
RAAAAAAAAAH ARC 2 DROPPED RAAAAAAAAH
Ooooooo who were the first two Wizards Sky?!!
The episode was so good! But to be honest I struggled to remember to everything that had happened in the last episode. If you're able would you maybe consider posting a little recap after a break? Other podcasts I listen to do that and it's super helpful!
It might have been super helpful to them as well. There were a couple continuity breaks that made me think they had maybe forgotten a couple of things between arcs.
Taylor how DARE you play my emotions like a damn violin during Ame’s flight and her young witch memories while PERFECTLY capturing Studio Ghibli vibes 😭😭😭😭😭😭
(also please please please I’m wishing so hard to have Taylor at the fireside for this episode🤞🏻)
teenage ame 😭😭😭😭
Ughhhh welcome back 😤❤️
THE MUSIC DURING THE FIRST RIDE
Oh my god Taylor. I can't tell you the anticipation and panic I felt when I got the first hint of music lifting on that broom ride. "Oh no it's is happening...oh no, this is happening now...keep it together, normal people don't randomly start crying at work...oh no it's too late..."
Yes!!! What a fantastic thing to wake up to on my birthday.
Taylor Moore fight me in the pit you can't just make me experience the pure joy of a witch's first flight through music at 8am in the morning! I have to commute! I have work! I can't cry on the highway!!
REJECT SOCIAL NORMS, CRY ON THE HIGHWAY (but like pull over maybe for safety reasons)
It is so lovely to hear Grandmother Wren & Ame again! The music/sounds and Brennan's descriptions transported me right back and Erika did such beautiful work reinhabiting child-Ame ♥
Grandma Wren comforting 14 year old Ame was so beautifully done. I shamelessly cried in front of people. Thank you for all the work and care that you guys put into these episodes.
"Would you like me to tell you..." "YES!!!" "alright..." 🤣🤣🤣
Cool cool cool made it to 1:04 before I was fully weeping 😭♥️
Happy to Report that my little pupper immediately goes to sleep if he hears Brennan narrating. (It is very precious)❤️🥺
Yea umh... The whole Ame/Grandma section felt real; i'm crying.
Erika you MEANIE why are you making me CRY like this :<
The sounds of this episode alone brought me to tears
Hearing Grandmother Wren takes me back to the Children’s Adventure. “Never you mind about wooden horses!” When will we get WOODEN HORSES?! It’s the ultimate callback.
The Javelin reference is seen and it is appreciated very much
Not Brennan out here making my cry with that beautiful opening.
who else but Brennan 😔
The rss feed version of the episode seems to stop after 53 minutes ??
(It's not the case on spotify however )
How long after these posts is it usually for the episode to be available on Youtube?
YES!!
We're back in my favorite fabtasy universe babyyyy!!!
AAHHHHHHHH
Shoutout to Taylor- I could not tell the difference between his birds and the actual birds over my shoulder. I just assumed ‘Taylor is nailing this!’ He is, but the so were the actual birds.
I forgot this was dropping today! Hastily rearranging my day to find two hours to dedicate to the podcast because there is no way I’m doing this in small intervals
Been waiting with bated breath as to The Croneification of Ame~!
Taylor! The flying scene music was perfect!
Seconded, the music this episode is the best I've heard yet. It has been beyond perfect!
yoooooo, mirrara FUCKS
Heads up for the crew that the episode (at least in overcast) is only 53:52 minutes long so cuts off mid sentence. Thankful to jump over here to hear it all.
Yeah it had been cut off on my catcher too originally. It's now updated to the proper length so hopefully it will be fixed on any others that got the cut off version soon as well.
Fucking dying hearing A’s lil screeches in the background 😂😂
Haven’t been excited to wake up at 5 am in a while lol ahoohoo
Not me getting teary when I hear who we're starting with this episode 😭 also I already need fanart of (spelling?) Mirara!! The music choices when she arrives and moves!!!!!!
I can, and will, wait for the transcript (love you transcriptionists!) but just imagine how badly I'm making grabby hands at all these new proper nouns and lore.
2:32 is how long I lasted before full on crying so, first of all, how dare y'all. and second of all, thank you
A-hoo-hoo to you-hoo!
A HOO HOO BITCHES LETS GOOO!
Let's fucking gooooooo
Happy Tuesday WBN fam 🥰💜
Possibly the fastest I’ve managed to click on something new that’s been posted ever. LETS GOOOOOOOO
I PICKED THE PERFECT TIME TO DO MY RERUN
Let's gooooooooo!
WHY AM I EMPLOYED???? i wanna listen now 😭
LETS GOOOO I am SO hype to see the citadel.
It's to early to scream like this fam.
Flannery O’Connor/Sufjan Stevens reference? Intrigued and excited ✨
The sufjan reference 😍😍
We are SO Back. Bring on the Wizards!
Jadies and Jailbirds, let's go.
Yes god, I’ve been refreshing all day!
WELCOME BACK, WE MISSED YOU!
oh my gosh 🥹🦊🦋 just finished the last half of the levelling up episode and hour ago and now we already get the new arc 🥺🥹🥹 so excited and thank you to all y’all for this wonderful world and community ! sending much love 💜 crackle crackle ❤️🔥
Yippee
