Fireside Chat for WWW ep30 "The Snake"
Get your sea god d*ck off my potatoes, and slide up a stool to chat with the gang about the latest ep, the nature of spirits, and Eursulon's quarterly one-on-one 360 review with the King of Night. You KNOW they're all "showing nhole" for this one, fam, no cap!
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When the man in black offered a question, I immediately hoped Eursulon would ask his true name!! Would he have even given it??
Y’all what in the HEY was the background noise in 15:04 to 15:15?
Hey so I’m listening again from the beginning and the man in black is one of the dopest characters in all of fiction. just absolutely thrilling to listen to. there’s something so unknowable and eldritch about him. coolest shit in the world
SHOWING NULL
unfair how funny taylor is
Idk why but I feel like the Man in Black might secretly be like a revenant or something of Sir Curran? The accents are completely different but I just get this f e e l i n g about it.
Seeing this after being fully caught up makes my heart huuuuurt
I hate hearing the drinking man, its death to my ears
the forgotten fifth type of bender: the truthbender
Ooooo. NICE! But does that mean they wield it, or pervert it? 🧐 (like, “bending the truth”)
I do really like how calm Eursulon is when talking to the Man in Black, it's so cool seeing the difference between how Suvi and Ame talk about him and how Eursulon talks to him. To Suvi and Ame he's a terrifyingly powerful and enigmatic threat, but he and Eursulon are kin, and that comes across really well in their interactions. It is as the Man in Black says; they may next meet as foes, but they will still be brothers.
been catching up on episodes this week and GODDAMN wbn team!!! this one went hard as hell! taylor's soundscaping during and transitioning between all of these wildly different scenes, aabria's killah dice rolls and SUCH A SMART play with vandal the ink spirit, erika's meet-cute with a sniffly paranoid wizard, eursalon's absolutely terrifying and heartbreaking scene with the traveler.... honestly "the snake" is up there as one of my favorite eps so far. love the podcast and sendin all the best wishes to your team and your loved ones 💥❤
"Wizards First Rule", by Terry Goodkind inthe Sword of Truth series, is the book that says what Brennan mentioned about deception around the 36 minute mark.
There has never been a better pivot to "and I'm proud to be an'merican...." 🥲🍆🫡🇺🇲
OH MY GOD HE EMBRACED HIM LIKE A BROTHER T_T Ugh I feel like this is what Eurulon has wanted for so long he's accumulating close bonds with other spirits I j7st wanna smash stuff about my feelinks
Name Suvi the Witch of Wizards & Wands!
That's illegal.
I feel like Tefmet is from the past???? Or like is a character out of time somehow??? I have no specific reasons at my fingertips but I feel it man
Yes absolutely. I know it's kinda giving chronurgy wizard but in my heart... Clockwork soul sorc Tefmet...
I just wanna know how often the cops show up where Erika is
God I love Br’er rabbit. I written papers on that Wiley trickster.
Bestie Brennan, Oh so sweet and loving Brennan, Brennan who's knowledge is vast and great. Will you please tell us what the remaining six domains are. We don't need to know every witch that has been there or even the last ones just the domains that Hakea chose.
I think the stranger somehow knew the first witch of the worlds heart and she is the reason he doesn’t wish to use his blade
The way that voice is edited is CRAZY gives me shivers each time so fucking scary I lovee it
I like watching the difference in perspectives of the spirits and mortals in what is, essentially, a shared existence.
Columbo themed one shot would be so sick 🔎
I can relate to Ame’s role as keeper of the world’s heart: her social responsibilities to make friends and build and mend bridges, and help practically in whatever way she can resonates with me because my work feels quite similar. Technically, I’m an English teacher (in Japan), but more than anything my conversation groups are meant to facilitate social structure and help people make friends and keep their minds healthy and active (which is especially important as I work with a lot to older people, who can sometimes feel left behind in a world that values youth and productivity). It’s wonderful to be able to have tea with them and encourage their talents and watch them get to know each other and grow as a community. Also, I tend to the gardens around the church and kindergarten, and I live in a tiny wooden cottage under a cherry tree with my two birds and my rabbit (familiar?) named Henry.
“Can you pick up my sword so I don’t have to lean so close to your junk?”
An absolutely epic episode with SO MUCH! It was really just so dense with so much beautiful description and massive plot moves and I love this show so much and I’m thrilled to be caught up! Thank you for the amazing work you all do!
I desperately NEED a "The North Pole is for Hotties" crop top. 😆
I just want to let Aabria and Erika know that they match my freak even if BLeeM and Lou don’t #horncorner🖤 #foldmeinhalfmommy
WWW Arc 3: The Floor is Lava* *unbearably hot magic wielders who will probably kill you at the slightest provocation
Hey yep I gotta say I H8ed “Cthuloid” in a visceral way :’)
Hi sweets ...no spoilers please...I have not seen ep 30 yet. I am sure it is explained how the release schedule works somewhere...but as a newer member can someone enlighten me to how this all works. I've only just caught up and haven't had to worry about when things come out and on what platform. So...obvi this fire side 30 is here...but the main ep is not up on youtube yet. When should I anticipate that happening?
Hey there Trintin, check out the FAQ pinned as our top patreon post for help getting all the right audio in all the right places. -t
I think it's worth noting that Daisho is the name for the specific two sword set of a Katana and Wakasashi. It's not the name of the specific 2 sword fighting technique that uses those blades, that has a number of different names across the eras. Their are also a number of different two Blade techniques across cultures with many different names. Yes I know Pedantic, but that's how we nerd sometimes. :)
That is correct, but unfortunately you didn't say "Um, actually," so we can't award you the point
Ame's conversation with Tefmet was as infuriating as it was perfect and perfectly shows the difference between her and Suve. Leaving aside the fact that they're an Antivolian, if Suve were there, she would be extracting as much information as she could - "four great witches, TELL ME MORE" - Ame's priority is making them feel comfortable and making friends. Such a good witch of the world's heart.
Between the description of Ursulon being all about honor and "not my potatoes!!", really giving ATLA today 😆
Where are people posting questions that come up in these episodes?
I think just in the comments of the episode
When Brennan starts talking about how themes and symbology don't need to be conscious to be in play or valid, it warms my art school heart. It shows a real confidence in the work when you can be all "Jung, take the wheel!" Let the story/artwork/whatever's creation, as well as the interaction with the viewer's psyche dictate the symbolism. The collaborative nature of the game adds a third point where the themes and symbols can interact with the story. All of the above makes the subtext of the final product incredibly dynamic in a way that holding tight to those things would stifle.
Let us not let Erika's top-tier calculus humor go unacknowledged in the comments. Exceptional episode, exceptional fireside!
Love hearing some Deadeye in The Stranger
Saying there would be two swords "like Leonardo" is not selling it. Worst ninja turtle.
When Suvi asked what was drawn on her face, I was waiting for a response along the lines of "that manticore anatomy is REALLY detailed!" And for a moment I thought we were gonna see a "hexadin" Eursulon, with the Man in Black as his patron.
Why do I feel like the thing the Stranger is attempting to avoid upon drawing his blade is a retributive curse from Grandmother Wren, for the attempt on her life? I feel like that's enough to give a spirit of his power pause, and God am I hoping to see it!
That's a VERY interesting thought. What exactly is the form of Wren's curse on the Man in Black? There must be one
If you make a t shirt that says "I M F U L L O F S N A K E S ! ! ! ! !" I will wear it forever
I’m so glad it opened with a discussion about Euroson getting swallowed. Erika and Aabria’s reaction was exactly what I expected. When it happened in ep I remember thinking “vore, in this Ghibli-inspired DnD show? Can’t wait to hear E and A’s reaction.”
After listening to this last episode again, I'm gonna make a called shot from 300 yards out: The kindly, caring, forgiving, assume-the-best-of-everyone tendencies that defined Grandma Wren, and which Ame feels such a constant obligation to match and live up to, will be sorely tested by the story, and may even prove to be slightly misguided. Meanwhile, Ame's wily, impish, mischievous, devious, foxey bullshitery--the true core of who she is, as a little Bugs Bunny shithead goblin kid with disheveled hair--will be the essential nugget that winds up defining her relationship to, and unique spin upon, her station as a fully grown-up Witch of the World's Heart. Like I think if a little kid were to meet Old Ame 200 years on, she'd be a little weirdo freak like Yoda or season 1 Iroh, jumping around and acting goofy. All "(shrug) What do I know? I'm just a crazy old forest lady 🤷♀️". Every crazy thing she says is actually 8 kinds of wise, and every sagacious bon mot she gravely intones is just her fucking with you. She'd give you a gift and you only realize what it does at the moment you need it most. A real pain in the ass type grandma, whose cunning was actually hard-won, and whose laidback Zen outlook is actually the end of a long and challenging road beset with trial and failure. (Which I guess means The Fox will have become a dapper, well-spoken, worldly gentleman who rolls his eyes at his master's immature antics? Who knows!)
I want you to be correct about this so bad LOL
Taylor please release the gasp cut
RELEASE THE SCREAM CUT
I'm loving that Aabria asked the question that was burning in my head about The Stranger about asking his true name so im happy to hear that could not have happened because if it could the implications would have been massive
“The greatest American trickster of all: Columbo.” Add it to the BLeeM quote book…
The Wizard, the Witch, and the Wild One aka Fox Gains Sentience and Learns Pragmatic Theory (ft. Grice's Maxims)
I adore the endless interplay between Brennan and Lou drawing new lines of horrific violence in the sand, with the assumption that surely THIS cannot POSSIBLY be construed as a kink thing, and then Erika and Aabria coming in like "No, it can." I can just listen to that forever. This is my new mythic trickster cycle. This is why the sun and moon go around in the sky.
Salting the earth???
i never imagined spirit Eursulon with pants, not a single time. cloak and paldron das it
Exactly! I thought my man was Donald Duck-ing it this whole time
¡¡COLUMBO MENTIONED!!
The briar rabbit stories are actually based on Anansi the spider stories!! Also the way brennan and abria explained how the fox is learning is legitimately helping me understand how i process language as a neurodivergent person 😂
I didn’t know that! Very cool. I only really know Anansi through Gaiman, but I’ll have to look for more. PS I believe her name is spelled Aabria. 😊
Loved that Suvi used Wizard's First Rule against Indri.
I need to draw that au of Eursulon and the seafood chef escaping the citadel 😆
Went ahead and did that https://www.instagram.com/p/C9lSygDRMqv/?igsh=MXZwd3ZhcnQ0cWx4NQ==
Ass-ym-toke
Ok, I do want to watch Brennan do a Smartypants presentation on Columbo being the greatest American trickster.
with what context we’ve been given about spirits thus far, i don’t think this is the case… but i hope Suvi does just a REAL quick Detect Magic on that pocket watch to check for scrying 😅 also, i’m curious if there’s any connection between the spring beneath Grandma Wren’s cottage and the well in the grove. Ame received a vision from the spring and the Man in Black received a vision from the well…? 🤔 perhaps it’s as simple as their proximity to spirits. MUCH TO CONSIDER ✍🏻
Wild guess, but in my mind, the Grove may be where Grandmother Wren have hosted the Conclave when it was her turn. So I think it being connected to her house makes sense. :)
I am anxious about that scarf that Brennan keeps reminding them is in the room while they share all of their secrets - even though it is “muffled.” A high roll could maybe still hear things?
Right?! Like, just make a point of loading the wizards’ things onto The Meridian and dispel magic. Seems like a perfectly wizardly, pragmatically paranoid protocol. I didn’t know that was going to come out so alliterative. At least hide it away better! Like in a box in a closet of a bedroom of an unused floor of the tower with as many closed doors as possible. *Indri is listening!*
Again with the clothes. Eursulon in his true form is a beast with fur and feathers. I wouldn't describe Heinrul as "naked" when he's a wolf. Other than sword and pauldron, I assume Eursulon's human clothes are worn when he's in human shape and are essentially part of his glamor. Otherwise they would rip if he changed. Brennan says spirits have no body shame, and Hercules says Eursulon didn't think of it at the time. I just thought it was an odd thing to bring up.
I wonder how that interplays, in world, with Eursulon growing up in the world of man. Like I’m sure it effects(affects?) his understanding of nakedness. He was so little when he left the cottage. Eh, just interesting
So excited to see how Lou handles getting spit out in the absolute cluster **** of a situation
That "Oh, I don't know that it's that hard of a riddle," made me burst out laughing.
I WAS THINKING COLUMBO THE ENTIRE FUCKING TIME!!!! THE WAY I SCRUMT
Hercules' "NOOPE" about the ski lift 😂
Suvi's section was so much fun. Aabria wanted more whimsey, she got it
Poor Brennan and Lou lol they are such innocent little guys dealing with the Kink Queens
Queenks, if you will.
Eursulon needs more swords so he can protect the Everything Bagels at the mall
Being asexual, I'm usually on Brennan and Lou's side of bafflement, but listen "the pressure" is 100% a valid explanation of why the opening body horror scene is Good Shit.
confirmed: Ame is the Avatar of the long-lost art of Truth Bending
God, reading the summary before listening is a TRIP. 🤣
Talking about Naraam’s dick, I am once again asking what Heinrul’s junk is
I need to know who’s making these episode descriptions and what drugs they’re taking lmao
I think it's Taylor
As you guys described the Americana tricksters I was instantly thinking: "oh, you mean Columbo?", "So, you're talking about Columbo?", "Ah, yes, classic Columbo". Glad that Brennan was thinking the same lol!
WWW episode 30 when?
Last week. -t
Honestly I don't even need them to talk about the show anymore, im here just to listen to half the cast be bewildered by the other half
A joyful gift to the world.
Desperately awaiting evil 2 sword Eursulon fanart.
Don't think i didn't notice the Ptolemaic scholar coding of the new wizard Brennan. Excellent.
Brennan bringing out the speech act theory!!!
Maybe it's not the book Brennan was thinking of when talking about how to deceive people, but it instantly made me think of the Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind in which the wizard's first rule is "People are stupid. They can be made to believe any lie because they want to believe it's true or because they are afraid it's true."
Best way to start a day. Ty WBN team!
Okay, I fully missed the sexual tension when Eursulon reattached the sword to lord of darkness. To me it appeared to me as a sign of kinship and respect for each other. Also love Eursulons title that was said by The Wondered.
i fully thought the tension was “are you gonna kill him” not “are you gonna fuck.” but i mean in some instances that’s absolutely one and the same
The book Brennan can't remember in reference to tricking people is probably Wizard's First Rule, which is pretty good. Don't bother with the rest of the author's books.
Please drop Brennan's feelings wheel
Hmmmmm ... cut the spirit world from the mortal world maybe?
Cannot believe Horner Corner didn't come back to explain vore, though Bilquis reference almost gets us there. Glad Heinrule is still with us - is cutting each other's heads off kind of a fun spirit thing? Poor sweet Brennan - the expressions were always there in the kinky portions of the world but are just bubbling up to main(er) stream. People gettin wild on main Cthuloid is a new one for me but I enjoy it - I usually hear Eldritch At 16:45 ish is someone literally in a well or drinking on mic? Haha Not gonna lie, Eurselon being butt ass naked does put a different spin on the scene but not by much. And admitting that he would have taken the sword if it saved his friends!!!! I can't imagine what life looks like after citadel destruction lol, what kind of life does Suvi have then
"I have two notebooks and I can't read..." That was a full sentence to me. I have taken all these notes. I can't read. I'm the DM... fk.
I am fantastic at making notes back when I was at Uni, then never look at them again because I could understand them even though everyone else could. Then again, some notes they couldn't and I could . It made study group a fun game for everyone as we'd share around my notes and play a cypher game.
Worlds Beyond Number can get a shadow Moonlight Sword that Lou Wilson can bring into other campaigns? I dunno, sounds pretty cool
Loving the fact that the Wizard's First Rule is lodged so deep in Brennan's brain, he forgot the origins. Terry Goodkind hit me in the soul as well.
YES! The moment he said it I was like "I understood that reference!"
The man in black is Tom Waits and you can't change my mind
Y e s
MV(andal)P!
I just finished watching Magic & Misfits on D20 last night. I’m imagining Jammer hyping up Vandal and it’s *delightful.* 🤘🏼
So excited for this fireside chat! This was also a favorite episode of mine!
You are apparently in good company
'We have such body delights to show you!'
Crackle Crackle!
Ahoo hoo
