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April 9, 2024

[PUBLIC EPISODE] The Wizard, the Witch and the Wild One: ep024 “Knock Knock"


Phone rings, door chimes, in comes company. The Italians call it "hospitaliano," that open armed attitude that makes guesting and having guests molto fun. Whether you're hosting, being hosted, or hosting again because you forgot the first time, always remember, it’s dangerous to refuse a guest, and sometimes worse to be one.

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We are

Brennan Lee Mulligan

Erika Ishii

Aabria Iyengar

Lou Wilson

Produced, designed, and scored by Taylor Moore  at Fortunate Horse with exquisite design and editing help from Jared Olson.

SPECIAL THANKS TO: Tazer Army, Shannon, and Amanda Freberg.

Album art by the great Corey Brickley

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The Witch of the Roaring River · January 29, 2026

Just re-listening: I want to see the romance between kalaya (sp?) and her second husband in an interlude 🥹🥹🥹

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Jonesey · August 24, 2024

There's a point to it, A ship of the Citadel, Lest you fall in love.

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Lana Kole · June 20, 2024

Wizards are sketchy, man. Dang.

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Lana Kole · June 20, 2024

I feel so bad for Suvi!! Wow!!

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Adri Void · June 18, 2024

I love how they joked in a prev fireside about future ‘musical episodes’ and now its required that Suvi make someone sing lmfao.

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s_m_i · May 7, 2024

“One of them is dead to me and the other passed away” 💀

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Sasha · May 3, 2024

I would love for everything to go off with no drama,but a part of me so deeply wants Suvi's actions to result in something she deeply regrets so that she learns the consequences of blind faith

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Sil · April 22, 2024

Fancasting Gwendoline Christie with the most exquisite make-up artistry as Indri.

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Robert Lark · April 22, 2024

Love the "I'm just following orders" Suvi, combined with the overly self-righteous justifications Aabria has for Suvi's actions. It all makes for such a juicy story, but any time Aabria is defending her actions it just screams "she doth protest too much"! Can't wait for these chickens to come to roost!

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Nefeli · April 19, 2024

Eursulon's family moments are making sob into my potatoes. I cried when the great bear was introduced and I'm crying for his sister now. It fucks me up man idk💀

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Andrew Weigel · April 18, 2024

I don't think you get to complain about someone thinking you are "devious" and "paranoid" and then use your next breath to say "so here's how we're going to spy on them." Bloody wizards ...

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Kamuraki · April 15, 2024

Okay, joined the patreon about 2 weeks ago and I'm caught up. Couple things I've got to get out of my system. First, I cannot picture Steel without picturing Storm from the X-Men. Second, I desperately hope we hear how she and Saunder ended up together. Because she is the personification of muscle tension, and he is the hippie dad half my parents friends from the 70's turned into.

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Mems · April 14, 2024

Everyone was amazing in the episode but Taylor’s music for the Ice castle appearing is breathtaking

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lilgreenghoulie e · April 14, 2024

It's really stuck with me how Steel said any person smart enough can talk themselves into doing something that may actually be morally wrong (paraphrasing). Steel is very likely speaking from experience for tricking Suvi with the telemet plan and maybe in the past with Suvi's parents

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Anonymous Developer · April 13, 2024

"Is she kind?" - "..She can be" DAMN shots fired from Gaothmai and it AINT THE WARLOCKS

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Adarsh Nednur · April 16, 2024

I simultaneously heard Suvi in my head saying, "ExCUSE me???" And Aabria saying, "Correct answer."

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Beldaran · April 13, 2024

It feels like a profound betrayal for Steel to ask this of Suvi when she is feeling so vulnerable and unmoored. I was sick to my stomach listening, and I like Steel so much. The emotional turmoil! All I can think about is Brennan threateningly saying "just keep falling in love with things" in that recent interview. Incredible storytelling on everyone's part, so excited and fearful to hear what happens next!

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Emily C · April 13, 2024

Different comment since I remembered I had a question, to see if someone could help me understand: what is a telemet? My Google -Fu is not super helpful. Is it like a compass? A spell booster? A magic telephone? I went back and listened several times to try and get it from context clues but it's not coming through.

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SmileyGuy · April 13, 2024

I believe it is the ball (dunno if always a ball) that allows long distance spell casting. Steel cast a spell on Sky through it.

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Alec · April 12, 2024

We're so BACK, baby.

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Kiera Faye · April 12, 2024

TAYLOR ELIZABETH MOORE. The tension in that final note?! Ugh.

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Bryan · April 12, 2024

WBN: Opens arc 3 with 2 hours of aural perfection My jaw: still on the ground even though I’ve been sat buffering in silence for the last 15 minutes like Netflix trying to load the next frame of an Adam Sandler movie

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Cecilia Johansen · April 12, 2024

Omg... 🤯 Amazing guys 👏

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Amanda Baldwin · April 12, 2024

Um I noticed something and would like to roll an investigation check

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Carrie Suzanne @ Petit Valais · April 12, 2024

Oooooh, what??

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Witpending · April 12, 2024

I am SO PUMPED to see where this goes. Absolutely adore the Geas plan. Roses all around for everyone.

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Stone Pengelly · April 12, 2024

My god, you all blow me away with this, it’s incredible. The descriptions not just from Brennan but from everyone is perfect. I could could so clearly picture this episode and each scene in my head. Taylor, Jared *mwuah* chefs kiss for all the sounds, music and editing. You truly bring this show to life. The Fox of the Forest and Shrine needs a Jacket!

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SmileyGuy · April 12, 2024

I can’t wait for Eurselon to find out about Kalaya’s experience with returning (or attempting to return?!) to the fae realm. She must have rolled like a champ for her taboo saves. Freely walking about in the Citadel, most definitely in the sun, and now lying in a bed more often than not? Do a perception check using your nose to see if she lost her wild scent!

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Kiera Faye · April 12, 2024

Is she wayshadowed? Or has she just remained in the mortal realm all these years out of love for her family?

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Kyle David Perry · April 11, 2024

Is Steel so brilliant that she gathered the the music box, the potion and McGuffin contract AND coordinated with the Wizard Straw all before giving Suvi the ship?? Or did she have this nesting doll of a plan on the shelf for just this moment?

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Ryan L. · April 11, 2024

The beautiful scenes painted with just words that also tug at our hearts never cease to amaze me, many thanks from the heart to all who craft this together! I am so happy for the small part we get play helping support this continuing for many years to come.

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Randon Beasley · April 11, 2024

The geas on suvi just makes me think about what Aabria said about how for Suvi love is obedience. With that in mind what’s a more show of love than willingly going through with that spell. The flash of shame though imo is recognition of that and knowing that a line might have been crossed, is Suvi doing it for the love of the citadel or the love of steel

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Meonlights · April 11, 2024

I wanted to put everything I felt in this excellent episode in one comment, because all three parts of this story are excellent and beautiful and incredible. Suvi's story continues to be nailbiting and scary, Ame and her experiences with the witches is magical and terrifying. But I lost my 99 year old grandmother this week. She was an incredible human being, there is literally nobody who didn't like her, her death broke hearts everywhere. And listening to the experience of the children and grandchildren of Kalaya, as she slowly ages and fades both broke and touched me. Thank you for this, I felt seen and understood and I know how you might grieve someone who is still around but also feel like they would always be there. It's surreal and strange. But I cherish it still. IDEK if this makes sense.

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tayycro · April 11, 2024

Listen I'm a Suvirin Kedberiket defender till I die, and I understand her feeling like she can't trust her friends so she needs to trust someone. But Suvi you don't wanna ask a single follow up question??? You're allowed to ask questions of people you trust! That is why you trust them!!!! Also Steel I'm so glad you feel shame because if you get your daughter killed by witches bc of a Gaes we're gonna be throwing hands in a Denny's parking lot you hear me????? She is a BABY and she TRUSTS YOU and you're USING HER and for WHAT???

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heyitsphoenix · April 11, 2024

I feel compelled (lol) to write this and try to articulate what I've been feeling for a long time listening to this podcast, and I still doubt these words will be enough. I feel like I am among the luckiest people alive to live at this point in time and listen to this story. As a whole it, and especially this episode, feels like the height of human storytelling to me, and brings out the entire spectrum of human emotion in me in the most beautifully indescribable ways. It makes me think of the first storytellers to ever exist and what they and their listeners must have felt at the beginning of humankind, bringing up joy and awe and terror and laughter and rage and love in the first ever simultaneous symphony of swelling hearts in the wake of a shared story, and I feel luckier than them as I listen to this. I think of those who first heard the creation of myths explaining the stories of the stars and all the love and loss they brought alongside the figures they saw in the sky, and I feel luckier than them. It's often been said that there are many needs humans have that must be fulfilled if we are to live our fullest lives, and among them are the need for beauty, and the need for awe, a sense of wonder. Listening to this fills those needs to the very brim for me, every time I hear the five of you create a world so heart-wrenchingly beautiful and awe-inspiring that it brings me to tears. What you do here is truly magic. It's a magic not unlike the kind we believe in in childhood, but different in that it emphasizes humanity over fantasy, even while being fantastical. All of this is just to say, perhaps too sincerely: thank you for doing this, I am in awe of all your abilities to weave such magic, and I can only hope to make such magic myself someday. I look forward with my whole heart to the long road ahead of this magical story.

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Thimo The Fool · April 13, 2024

Beautifully Said, thank you for putting this feeling I am having right after listening to the episode into words.

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DomPie · April 11, 2024

How many times has Steel cast Geas before, on whom, and were the targets as willing as Suvi…?

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RNietzsche · April 11, 2024

Brenan keeps insisting that Callie's family looks like Suvi is a magical effect. Methinks the DM doth protest too much...

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Emily C · April 11, 2024

Oh Eurselon, his sister!!! I love that his nieces' argument has been going for so long because it reminds me of real life long term arguments/conversations I've had with my own sister. Suvi: At any cost????? Oh boy. And the violin at the end absolutely grabbed me and didn't let go.

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oysterphilsophy · April 11, 2024

The geass ending with 'At any cost' is not mother behavior, I hope steel dwells on that flash of shame and considers what it means for suvi to agree to give up her agency and safety without any questions or pushback. It's pretty bad when a kid thinks their parents love is so conditional.

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RNietzsche · April 11, 2024

Oh yeah this is absolutely absurd "parent" behavior. I guess now we know who Steel chooses when the choice is Duty or Suvi. I wonder if she would send her bio kids on such a suicide mission. Even the "obvious" deception could reasonably get Suvi killed as a spy.

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The Wizard Sound · April 11, 2024

I agree that Steel is being sus… but she’s doing spycraft and it makes way more sense that she just wants information. ALSO - remember that Ame will die without Suvi there - maybe the music box has something to do with that.

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Carrie Suzanne @ Petit Valais · April 11, 2024

Alright Steel defenders. What have you to say for yourselves? Because I’m feeling very I told you so, but y’all are gonna find a way to spin it, aren’t you?

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Andrey Patino · April 11, 2024

I just can’t see a consistent need to control someone as respect and kindness! Steels “respect and kindness” always comes with a caveat, and that’s the very opposite of both those things

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Krusty Bo Busty · April 11, 2024

The real violin??????!?!

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Ashley Teatum · April 10, 2024

Y'ALL I wasn't expecting another episode, you're so good to us. Downloaded and listening on my flight shortly 🤌✨

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Riley Crowder · April 10, 2024

I love that Steel was kind of passive and dismissive about the prophesy from the old wizard, but also gave Suvi an airship and sent her on her way IMMEDIATELY! She may act a bit blaise about it, but auntie is worried. :)

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Fergus Bremner · April 10, 2024

I'd love to know to what extent Aabria (and everyone else) thinks of Suvi and Sky as separate people? Obviously, there's a lot of bleed through but it seems to me that Suvi is the person who is friends with Ame and Eursulon, and is a daughter to Steel. Suvi is an inexperienced wizard despite her prowess and is eager to impress. On the other hand, the Wizard Sky is an agent of the Citadel, subservient to Steel and views her companions as a liability. Sky views herself as an accomplished wizard despite her inexperience. It suits Suvi/Sky to switch back and forth between the two as the situation calls for it. Personally, I love Suvi but I hate Sky (love to Aabria regardless). That's just my take on it and by no means the only one!

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Kayjii · April 10, 2024

When are we going to talk about Brennan's pronunciation of "winds its way"?

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Worlds Beyond Number · April 10, 2024

Discretion is the better part of valor, KEVIN.

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Conor Steinke · April 10, 2024

"Eursulon, your teeth are honkin' big."

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Carrie Suzanne @ Petit Valais · April 11, 2024

Same. Exact. Thought.

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Tony Plocido · April 10, 2024

Aabria is awesome. Suvi is a bad friend.

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Nye-Low · April 11, 2024

💯! Rushed to get Suvi to the capitol and all the sudden 36 hour life clock…… let’s just wait and see if we can get help, don’t wanna rock the boat.

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cormunculous_green · April 10, 2024

Aabria is literally a genius guys do you know this

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Tonks · April 10, 2024

Is there a heartbeat in the background of the last 20 minutes with Suvi’s bit? I was listening on my apple headphones and I’ll be damned if I didn’t think I was having an anxiety spike haha

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Johnystoo · April 10, 2024

Anybody think that Roderick is the wizard Sly? But that can't be because of the way name cloaks work? Interesting how naming someone actually narrows down who they could be because it can't be a wizard.

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Timothie Spearman · April 10, 2024

Grandma Wren disdained Indri, or at least her office... and Brennan described Indri as having no appeal to those who desire nothing. Do you think that was his subtle say of saying that Grandma Wren wanted for nothing? I love that idea, I also feel that it reinforces the idea of the office of the Witch of the World's Heart as being one of fullness and connection.

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The Wizard Sunlit, Evocation Specialist · April 10, 2024

Really wish they called it the Umora Borealis

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Matthew · April 10, 2024

People here are not giving Suvi enough credit for her own agency. She chose this. She agreed to the whole plan willingly. I don't know if Steel will ultimately prove false but she is treating Suvi with kindness, respect, and trust. We just don't like the Citadel's plan so we are attributing nefarious intent to everyone involved. This is not manipulation except in the sense that all of us are manipulated by the circumstances of our birth and upbringing.

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C. A. Whyse · April 10, 2024

Oh, I'm all for this drama! She's officially a sleeper agent, and I am curious to see the consequences of what happens next.

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C. A. Whyse · April 10, 2024

Bad Man Brennan Lee Mulligan strikes again! Will this help or hurt Ame's mission? I'm so pumped to see what happens next!

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Natalia Zorrilla · April 10, 2024

Also, the piece about Citadel magic—particularly divination—changing over Kalaya’s time there was a nice tidbit. I’m curious about whether that connects to Stone’s discovery of treason “against magic itself” and her subsequent shift from divination to abjuration. I also thought it was interesting that wizards seemed to cast their glamours differently as they became more regimented— the rise of the reflexive indicative, maybe?

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Natalia Zorrilla · April 10, 2024

The “Is she kind?” “She can be.” from Kalaya and Eursulon hit me hard. Because as we’re reminded when Suvi follows up on Ghost and Flicker, she absolutely has the capacity to value people for their own sake. But she was also raised by Steel, who instrumentalizes Suvi’s relationship with her oldest friend as “useful to the Citadel right now.” It’s viscerally painful to watch Suvi shut down the kind, curious parts of herself in favor of the blindly loyal ones. But it’s also interesting because I don’t think Suvi is loyal to the Citadel/Empire so much as she is to Steel. (Like, to the best of my recollection, she has followed orders when/because STEEL GAVE THEM.) So I think this mission could be a big miscalculation by Steel. If it goes south in a way that hurts Ame, and Steel’s omissions are at fault, it’s hard to predict whom Suvi will side with. She doesn’t have the same imperial loyalty that Steel does, and so a personal “betrayal” might go a long way. (Of course, perhaps that’s why Steel sent a watcher along with Suvi to begin with. But it’s hard to imagine that she’d resort to force with Suvi.)

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Michelle Spurgeon · April 14, 2024

It really gives credence to the idea that Sky and Suvi are DIFFERENT.

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Silo Hell · April 10, 2024

I haven’t seen anybody mention the small detail in Eursulon’s section of his family’s “best case scenario” being described as “A hole to hide in with love”. It is heartbreakingly beautiful and apt for what they represent when caught up in a war with the citadel. They will never be able to be loved AND unhidden in this situation, and so this is all they can hope for. As lovely as it is, there is now nothing more for them to gain and still everything for them to lose.

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Matthew · April 10, 2024

Eursalon's kin need to move to Toma.

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Nassim Tanha · April 10, 2024

We have heard many times that witches are supposed to be "the cunning ones". To me it seems that Ame was always truthful and the one with most open communication style, so was grandmother Wren. Yet we see Suvi to be the one to go with her best friend as her support system just to have an agenda. Steel is the one who manipulated her own daughter to breach the trust of her friend. Is it the mixing of wizardry on a hostile power hungry empire that has lead to such behavior from wizards or are wizardry is inherently rooted in institutional power and hence inherently corruptible

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Extragarb · April 11, 2024

I definitely agree that both witches of the World's Heart have almost exclusively been seen being gracious, honest, and kind (AND we've seen a lot of crafty wizard shenanigans), but I do think witches' cunning goes a bit deeper. They regularly, craftily use kindness and respect to bind spirits large and small into arrangements those spirits often wouldn't have opted into (like keeping Orima out of the material world by continuing to honor an agreement of respect). But more than their business with spirits, this topic reminds me of when Wren reminds Mirara that she "backs down from fights she could win all the time". That suggests to me that Wren carefully collects social & magical knowledge, leverage, and influence to use only when it really matters. Like a monopoly player that slowly builds up a wealth of resources before shifting to offense, rather than min maxing to spend her money to build as early as possible to maximize returns in the least amount of time. It very much feels like Grandmother Wren moves through the world with open kindness backed by an ocean of relationships, influence, knowledge, and leverage, without going crazy to make a big deal about that ocean. She doesn't often need to be hostilely cunning, but when the occasion arises, she's so well equipped (socially & magically) that she becomes incredibly difficult to thwart, if you even see it coming. For example, she was able to use her relationships with her friends at the Citadel (like Steel) and her knowledge of Pomeroy's true name to smuggle multiple spirit portraits out of the Cassov Collection so cleanly that the Citadel still doesn't know it happened. Who knows why she needed those, but she straight up stole them from the heart of the Citadel and fully concealed it from everyone involved without disrupting any of her previous relationship statuses. So I do think it's important to remember Witches can be cunning as hell, but I think they're just a little better at doing it than Wizards. Most wizards go for the first piece of bait you put down for them, and it makes them predictable in a way that witches aren't. Sure the wizards get really crafty with it, like Steel's double layered memory music box plan, but fundamentally the Citadel is still doing to most predictable wizard move in the book. This is their first chance to learn about something new and important, and they are trying to squeeze as much juice out of it as possible at the first available opportunity, like they always do. Ironically, not only does this method probably have worse info yield than building a genuine relationship of mutual trust with the elder coven, it also is completely blind to the possibility that this meeting might be centered around deciding if the institution of wizardry is going so far that Witches and the spirit world need to intervene (changing the stakes of failing the intel mission from a bad first impression into the wizards actively confirming that they're always up to some untrustworthy shit).

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Chey · April 10, 2024

THIS EPISODE ESPECIALLY THE SUVI BIT WAS BONKERS!!! I loved eursylon and his new family bit!! this citadel plot can only end badly and I'm now suspicious of Steel and I'm so sad for what suvi might feel when she discovers this

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Abigail W · April 10, 2024

I’ll ride for Suvi til the muthafkn wheels fall off!!! bb gorl was put in an impossible spot! If I’m not around as Suvi’s defense attorney, it’s because I died not knowing what to do with my big feelings over Eursulon’s family reunion.

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Brandon Carbaugh · April 10, 2024

OH GOD, NOW SUVI HAS QUEST FEVER. WIZARD QUEST FEVER HITS DIFFERENT. WIZARD QUEST FEVER IS SCARY Also lol Steel being like "They think wizards are reckless naive buffoons; we'll show them" and then proceeding to do what is maybe objectively the most insanely recklessly naively buffoonish "meddling with powers beyond your ken" wizard shit any wizard has ever wizarded in the history of wizardry.

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Sean Boyce · April 10, 2024

Phone rings, door chimes, in comes company! No strings, cold nights, runes hum, company! Late nights, star light, Coven names Teeth bared, so scared, polar bear claws Wind howls, low growls, secret shames, All the magical wards on the waaaaallls.

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Worlds Beyond Number · April 10, 2024

THIS is why I allow comments. THIS is why we "do it." -t

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Extragarb · April 10, 2024

Can you believe the gall of the Citadel to try and pull some sneaky shit in the personal sanctum of an elder witch surrounded by the sanctum's owner, her retinue of spirits, 3 other visiting elder witches (at least one of which is definitely hostile towards wizards), and a deviously curious Ame (who might blow the whole thing all on her own if she notices it in the wrong way)? It feels crazy to send a level 3 wizard (and some admittedly decent planning and gear) to do a hostile, secret intel mission in the presence of an institution of global magical influence & significance all compressed into 5 individuals (the 4 strongest of which being witches the Citadel does not magically understand and Ame, the wild card with unique access to the stealth agent). I can't imagine a less desirable enemy than 5 elder witches that specifically become extra magically effective when trifled with. Witches that normally steward whole domains of magic, instead redirecting their focus (and maintenance of their domain) towards your downfall. Especially since Mirara's Waning Moon domain appears to be centered on the very essence of death, disintegration, and the unmaking of things (quote: The death of light, the end of might / The all-consuming dread of night). If I were the Citadel, I'd want to stay on very good terms with anyone responsible for the magic behind "the end of might" (not that they know about any of the other elder witches right now) I can't wait to see how this goes wrong (or if it miraculously works as intended). This feels like a perfect set up for the classic wizard move of trying to pull some ill-advised crafty shit without understanding the consequences.

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Genna · April 10, 2024

First, absolutely blustery and wondrous kick-off of chapter three 🌬️❄️🏔️✨🐻🦡💜 Thoughts on Steel (partially pulled from me on Reddit lol) What I find the most fucked up about the whole interaction with Steel is how this hurts Suvi based on how obedience is love to her. It is CRUSHING ME that, the way I see it, Suvi just wants consistency, honesty, and loyalty from the people she loves. And her best friends are two free spirits (one literal spirit). And her mom seems to be willing to push her far past her comfort zone without a kindred understanding and agreement, all in the name of loyalty and "doing the right thing" (for the Citadel), but she comes at it with logic and reason in a way that soothes and sways Suvi. I don't mean to say that Steel couldn't be a champion for wizards and simultaneously love Suvi. Wizards are rad. But the imperial force of the Citadel scares the shit out of me, and Steel is deep in that. I fear for Suvi getting caught up in between the love of her mom and the crushing demands of the Citadel (executed through the hand of her mom 😥).

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Extragarb · April 10, 2024

I feel like Kalaya says it perfectly when she notes that the curiosity of wizards is healthy, wholesome, and good, but the danger comes from when they let that morph into something more. When wizards start getting to ambitious or defensive we end up with nonsense like the Naram incident (ambition) and weird hostile defensiveness like viewing Port Talon's post battle song as a threat because the Citadel doesn't have a way to control public singing. I love Steel to death, but I worry about how bought into the Citadel's culture she is. I want good things for her and the Citadel, but it feels like trying to spy (or worse) with the music box on these elder witches just because they are powerful and operate independent of the Citadel's control is such a bad idea. Instead of letting Suvi just be present and participate as intended in the coven meeting (and then have her report back to Steel about all the many things she'll have learned about this powerful institution), Steel (and by extension, the Citadel) is having her gamble it all just squeeze out some additional intel on top of what they already could have had. The worst part is Suvi is completely caught up with no choice but willing complicity. Not only does she have the weight of the Citadel culture and her relationship/history with Steel compelling her to participate. She also was just burned AGAIN by Ame and Eursulon (this one wasn't really his fault) when they ran out on her in Xiao Court, once again ignoring the burden their wild choices put on her. Maybe if they hadn't burned her so deeply the past few times, I could see an internal case for Suvi to propose a counter suggestion to Steel that puts more trust in Ame and the Witches, but they're the ones that always let Suvi down in moments of crisis while Steel is reliable.

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ceeg · April 10, 2024

GOD FUCKING DAMMIT SUVI

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MsAlleyCat · April 10, 2024

Yes, everyone join me in the Steele suspicious train NOW

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R. Wesley Nipper · April 10, 2024

AAAaaa Badger badger badger badger TREE HOUSE TREE HOUSE badger badger badger badger TREE HOUSE TREE HOUSE ffOOOXXXX he's the FOOOOXXX

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Michelle Spurgeon · April 14, 2024

Oh no, I can hear this and I'm old

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Onomatopecan · April 9, 2024

God the dramatic irony here. I know Steel doesn't have the context for what the Conclave is meeting for, but dear lord if she hasn't involuntarily screwed Ame (and Sky, frankly) over before a single word is spoken. The very presumption that the conclave will underestimate them, and thus they can pull a fast one over on the witches is near guaranteed to simultaneously ratify those very biases and give the Conclave all the ammunition they need to consign Wizardry in general, the Citadel in specific, and Sky immediately thereafter if she gets caught. Devious, buffoonish, and paranoid. Right on all accounts before a single word is spoken.

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The Quiet Footpath · April 9, 2024

Honestly, while the intel would be valuable, it comes at such a damn high risk. Like do you really want all those eyes on you when they haven't meddled with Citadel shit in a noticeable way? You don't want the smoke guys, chill.

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The Witch of the Who What When Where Why · April 9, 2024

Oh brother that final musical cue wasn't ominous AT ALL

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KamasiFitzgerald · April 9, 2024

Is there anything that can be done about the YouTube uploads? They always seem to come days after the rest of the platforms get the episodes

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Risa Tran · April 9, 2024

i am also suffering in wait.

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Prof_Bahamut · April 9, 2024

Iirc Grandma Ren did say that Steel would always prioritize the Citadel's goals

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The Spirit of Vicious Inspiration · April 9, 2024

I love how we got awesome escapades (icecapades?) with Ame & the fox (now with a title!!), a touching family reunion with Eursulon, and then Brennan was just like “enough of this sentimental pish posh, let’s dial some deviousness up to 11!!!!!” with Suvi. y’all are out of pocket in absolutely the best ways

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Luke Hampshire · April 9, 2024

I haven't even listened to it yet and the Company reference combined with the fact that I thought this was going to be a Much Larger hiatus (for some reason) is making me absurdly excited

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ThatItalianInTheComments · April 9, 2024

Italians most assuredly DO NOT call it that, but otherwise, so hype

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Michael Redd · April 9, 2024

Steel is going to be one of the BBEGs for the campaign. Calling it now

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rio · April 9, 2024

I don't trust Steel for an inch, I have a running theory that she got Soft and Stone killed... Also, I'm just gonna keep begging for Miyazaki-esque True Form Naraam and Coven of Elders art please I need it so bad

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Magerdamage · April 9, 2024

That intro gives me chills every time. Was that Aabria on this one?

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Dominic Corbin · April 9, 2024

It was indeed Aabria

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Lorna Burns · April 9, 2024

Something doesn’t sit right with me, steel explained it way too straightforward, whenever I’ve seen Brennan do straightforward, there’s usually a subversion somewhere in there. Steel, what the hell are you up to.

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g0dfath4 · April 9, 2024

im almost sad suvi is so compliant to this crazy spell. i’m hoping its ramifications don’t affect her & ame’s relationship too much.

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Cumbia Zookeeper · April 9, 2024

That hammered dulcimer in the opening was an A+++ choice

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Karen mc donnell · April 9, 2024

I dont know how to describe the light breath I take, wondering, as I listen sobbing to the soft sadness, and love from Ursulons family or later, when my eyelids snap open as Steel describes the plan, or at any point between the children's adventure and now, if I was to die, that if my light breath was my last. I would feel the great bear, or the fox of the forest and the shrine, carry my soul lightly to the stars over oumora.

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Raquel Blacken · April 9, 2024

Excellent as always. I'm for certain going to paint a portrait of the witch of wind and stars

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Raquel Blacken · April 9, 2024

I'll put it on my insta @raquellibee

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Michelle Spurgeon · April 9, 2024

Holy shit, that was sketchy as fuck! What is Steel up to? The entire business with Kahalia made me so sad. I find it interesting that the witches were so bitchy about Ame not checking in and made this meeting so urgent and then she is the first to arrive. Brennan is cooking!

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Marcus · April 9, 2024

I messaged my WBN bestie exactly " what the fuck is Steel up to!?! " Haha. Really tho, what is she up to haha

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Evangeline · April 9, 2024

If goast becomes a full wizzard she should become the wizzard specter!

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Carrie Mook Bridgman · April 15, 2024

Hmm. Not much of a name*cloak*--unless it was the sort of thing where everyone would assume they wouldn't be so obvious, and thus never suspect. I guess if the name "Ghost" gets eaten anyway, it wouldn't matter, so why not have fun?

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Just a Fox · April 9, 2024

I would go feral for the slightest mote of affection from Indri, the Witch of the Wind and Stars. I would not make my saving throw to prevent myself from falling in love, in fact, I would fully choose to fail!

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Ren Challacombe · April 9, 2024

Ame really spoke for the sapphics with that “yes please”

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Michael Munene · April 9, 2024

Just when you think the sound design can't get any better, Taylor pulls another rabbit out of his hat. The drifting refrain from the violin at the end is downright haunting.

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HexMix · April 9, 2024

I don't wanna post spoilers, but I got some Big feelings about a certain character by the end of this ep! If you know, you know!

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HexMix · April 9, 2024

I am baffled by the constant levels of pure PEAK these people achieve!

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Borangehat · April 9, 2024

Bella, we made "hospitaliano".

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Sam Thomas · April 9, 2024

Fuck it's so good I need more

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Glue Wilson · April 9, 2024

can't wait to learn which NPCs have the juiciest dumpers in this new arc

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Apple Slapple · April 9, 2024

We're so back

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Arien Crossby · April 9, 2024

Okay, dying to know how hard everyone cracked up at the first word of this episode. 😂

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Leo Kinney · April 9, 2024

This episode was so fun to listen to while looking at the art

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Risa Tran · April 9, 2024

YOUTUBE MUSIC RELEASE THE HOSTAGE! I guess I will sit here feverishly refreshing my YouTube music podcast until the episode shows up ._.

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Risa Tran · April 9, 2024

Is anyone else using YouTube Music Podcast and not seeing the episode yet?

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thebillmm · April 9, 2024

Brennan’s description of the “raw, majestic, uncompromising beauty” of arctic valleys and peaks brought me (an Alaskan) so much joy it made my heartache. Love this new setting!

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thebillmm · April 9, 2024

Also A++ to the palace’s musical fanfare and the ep’s outro

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Jane W · April 9, 2024

"a good time zone with you as well"

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Kai Calvert · April 9, 2024

Y’all keep one-upping yourselves with the excellent storytelling and comforting vibes 💜 Also, I really appreciate the suggestion of using Overcast for listening! I’ve started listening to other podcasts there as opposed to Spotify and I really like all of the customization options for listening!

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lil guy · April 9, 2024

Folks... we are eating good tonight... this might be one of my favourite episodes so far

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g0dfath4 · April 9, 2024

blm with the silent h in dulhan, i see you

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Annabel Mont · April 9, 2024

God damn the sound score fucking slaps so hard.

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Sammi Jacobs · April 9, 2024

We’re so back 🔥🔥🔥

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lil guy · April 9, 2024

Everything about this episode. Everything. I don't know where to begin. I'm going crazy

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Emily Hamilton · April 9, 2024

Not me almost weeping listening to Taylor's immaculate score as Brennan describes the palace while driving in to work. ❄️🏔️🏰Hope the security guard at the gate didn't care.

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Luis González · April 9, 2024

Still listening, the bear just talked for the first time. The voice is so similar to Iorek Byrnison's from the audiobooks! I was so hoping for an armored bear vibe.

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Gabby s · April 10, 2024

10/10 spot on!

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g0dfath4 · April 9, 2024

im so excited i feel sick

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annemjw · April 9, 2024

“You are not alone” instant tears 💙

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THEY Agenda Productions · April 9, 2024

A-hoo-hoo, crackle crackle motherfuckers!

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Steve Cartwright · April 9, 2024

You're darn tooting

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Ori Ganani · April 9, 2024

All caught up and finally listening to this “live”! So excited! A-HOO-HOO!

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Yaseen abdul-malik · April 9, 2024

Love it already

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Geneviève Marian · April 9, 2024

Just finished the level up!

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Sanna G. · April 9, 2024

I am never this early in noticing a notification. Can’t listen currently because I’m on a bus in Nagoya but looking forward to when in have the time to savor it.

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Katlynn · April 9, 2024

Something about this new episode drop is giving me that kid on Christmas morning giddy feeling.

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Samantha Shepherd · April 9, 2024

Literally SQUEALED when I saw it!

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Sven the Scribe · April 9, 2024

Snow!

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Leif_millelnuie · April 9, 2024

Let's fucking go.

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Al · April 9, 2024

BRENNAN DID THE THING ❄

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g0dfath4 · April 9, 2024

i was cracking up

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Al · April 9, 2024

A TWO HOUR EPISODE, WE ARE BLESSED.

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Daniel Paddison · April 9, 2024

HERE WE GO!

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Chey · April 9, 2024

woah! it's very late for me but this will be a nice treat for when i wake up 🩷

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TeacupTheBopcaJournalist · April 9, 2024

LETS GO!!! TIME! TO! CRYYYYYYY!!!! BIG EMTIONS!!!

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Morgana Evenstar · April 9, 2024

Arc 3. Arc 3! ARC 3!!!!!!

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Shades Run · April 9, 2024

IVE BEEN WAITING PATIENTLY

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The Wizard Spicy 🌶️ · April 9, 2024

MY BODY IS READY

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Gabriele Mozzicato · April 9, 2024

Can't wait to listen to the ep!! But as an Italian i feel compelled to say I think "hospitaliano" is a word Olive Garden fully made up lol in standard italian we would use "ospitalità"

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Isabella Mazzone · April 9, 2024

Lo stavo per scrivere mi hai salvato la ripetizione!

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Sil · April 9, 2024

Zooooooming into this just after work, LOCK AND LOAD, GANG!