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Spiraling
November 18, 2021

Spiraling

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AlexKorobeiniki · November 23, 2021

Look, having expectations and standards for yourself isn't a bad thing. But you've got to recognize when your expectations are based on external factors and therefore aren't going to always fit your timetable. Claire's not a Librarian right now not because she messed up, but because openings are scarce. Being hard on herself for that fact isn't going to help anyone or anything get better.

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Charlie Lawton · November 22, 2021

We all live in a lava submarine, a lava submarine, a lava submarine

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Julie Scott · November 20, 2021

This is me working at CVS earlier this year.

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John Pallister · November 20, 2021

The best thing about reading these comics here on Patreon is that the "fifth panel" is always Jeph's dog looking up at you. :)

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Lonnie Mask · November 19, 2021

Ms. Frizzle had one.

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Mad Marie · November 19, 2021

She still has it. Friz is in fact picking me up next Thursday morning to go geode hunting beneath the western pacific rim.

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Daryl Sawyer · November 18, 2021

lmao, I want a lava submarine!

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Hugh Eckert · November 18, 2021

I think that Claire and Clinton have only one chill between them. Right now Clinton has it.

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Doug DeJulio · November 18, 2021

And also, their mom gets it on alternating weekends. She'd be a mess if she couldn't borrow Cosmo's.

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Bo Blackstar · November 18, 2021

These facial expressions are the full range of human emotion.

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Jesper Krandorf · November 18, 2021

The lava submarine from the movie The Core…

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David Durant · November 18, 2021

I was pushing 40 before I managed to really be able to be supportive for people I care about in these kind of situations without succumbing to the overwhelming desire to Try To Fix Things.

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jimbo · November 18, 2021

y'know, this comic works perfectly without any words in the balloons, possibly better

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Rob McBobson · November 18, 2021

It's usually a sign of good storytelling in comics that you can tell what's going on even without reading the words. Or rather, it's a sign of the cartoonist making use of the medium.

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Mad Marie · November 18, 2021

How deep does a lava submarine have to dive before it becomes a magma submarine?

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Jeffrey Anderson · November 18, 2021

20 fathoms, more or less.

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Ian Wolfe · November 18, 2021

How would a lava submarine be cool, though? Literally OR figuratively? Lava being both really hot and totally opaque.

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Mad Marie · November 18, 2021

As long as it has a screen door, it’ll be fine.

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Pejo · November 18, 2021

Marten's doing the wrong thing but he's trying SO HARD at it

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Doug DeJulio · November 18, 2021

I'm sorry, but my brain is now going "WE ALL LIVE IN A LAVA SUBMARINE, A LAVA SUBMARINE, A LAVA SUBMARINE..." over and over again. Damned brain.

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ItseMeeCarsten · November 18, 2021

Thanks for infecting me with that. Really great.

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Grace Serenity · November 18, 2021

Claire, sweetie, you gotta take a breath! You're in full blown panic attack mode, and you need to relax! Take a step back, do a centering exercise or two. Breathe. Slowly!

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Brooks Moses · November 18, 2021

And I think part of the irony of all this is that her mom was mostly having the "oh, I thought" reaction because she knows how much Claire has been wanting a library job and was being happy for her about it because of that. I don't think her mom was reacting that way because of having her own expectations for Claire at all.

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Professor Harmless · November 18, 2021

Well, just as long as it's yellow.

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Evgeniy Semyonov · November 18, 2021

She really needs professional help. It is nigh impossible to deal with such issues on your own, or even with the help of well-meaning, but clueless people around you.

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Captain Button · November 18, 2021

Been far too long since we saw Dr. Corinne.

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M. R. · November 18, 2021

Amazing how many of life's problems are caused by expectations not meeting reality

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Minzoku Bokumetsu · November 18, 2021

not really that amazing, tho =(

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Shawn K. Younkin · November 18, 2021

Let her vent Marten, she'll blow-up which will be sort of a reality reset for her and she will be fine, and probably MORE determined to find a library job.

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Captain Button · November 18, 2021

Beware, vents involving lava can emit toxic gases...

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Bagge · November 18, 2021

I'm pretty sure Raven has a design for one of those

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Daniel S · November 18, 2021

Where's Faye when you need a Vulcan boob-squish?

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Tudza · November 18, 2021

We all live in a lava submarine, a lava submarine, a lava submarine.

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Jeff Hartley · November 18, 2021

Someone needs a hug.

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Kristina · November 18, 2021

Imagine having anxiety this bad....oh wait!!

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Carin Maja Brooks · November 18, 2021

I feel personally attacked by this relatable content

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Edward Clayton Andrews · November 18, 2021

... someone make a MINECRAFT MOD FOR IT!

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Some Ed · November 19, 2021

I kind of recall having used a mod in years past that allowed one to comfortably swim in lava[1]. It's a little less grand than a lava submarine, but I like the simplicity of it. Though, to be fair, I don't think it was actually all that *simple* to get to the point of being able to do it, since it was near the end of the tech tree of that particular mod, and it was a fairly lengthy tech tree. 1. I mean without dying or even taking damage. I know you can just *do* it briefly if you have enough health normally, but I find that's not very soothing. Other people may have other opinions, and that's fine.

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Auros Harman · November 18, 2021

You're gonna need a lot of unobtainium plating for that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_HhiU1mOwU

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Da Nargh!! · November 18, 2021

Too relatable. My partner is struggling to get consistent work in her field due to misogynistic dinosaurs. Sound engineer BTW

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Mad Marie · November 18, 2021

Preach it! It’s stupidly difficult to be taken seriously in technical service fields. That mask is both super creepy and super awesome with the orchid btw.

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Izzy Omega · November 18, 2021

Relatable content as always

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Nulgar · November 18, 2021

I _was_ thinking that events were way too positive lately...

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Yelling Bird · November 18, 2021

I KNOW A FEW WAYS CLAIRE CAN BECOME AN INTERNET CELEBRITY REAL QUICK!

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Anthony Gaglianese · November 18, 2021

I have had very similar conversations, both with family and myself. Down that road lies madness. I hope Marten can steer her off that path...or at least help her take it at an easier pace rather than the full-steam nosedive she's throwing herself into.

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AlexisLeBluer · November 18, 2021

Seems like red flag for Marten's future again.

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Tom @ Magic Chopstick Games · November 18, 2021

Sounds pretty gneiss tbh

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Finvaara · November 18, 2021

Claire is absolutely diving headfirst into a depressive spiral. I do hope she finds a way to not do that, instead.

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Rob McBobson · November 18, 2021

If I were in Marten's shoes, I'd point out that Claire seems to be ascribing her own feelings of dissatisfaction with herself to her mom and reading in more than her mom either said or meant, which is unfair to her mom. I'd wait until Claire was completely done talking, though; I'm a bit thick sometimes but I'm not STUPID.

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Jim Lee · November 18, 2021

It is basically just not possible to interrupt someone out of a breakdown/freakout, and if you try, you become the enemy. Provide support without validating any untrue or unhelpful positions, disengage if it gets real fukken bad, circle around when the temperature has dropped and the potential explosive energy in the situation has drained off.

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Viktor · November 18, 2021

So.... Volcanoids?

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Mad Marie · November 18, 2021

That would be highly illogical.

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panpolypuff · November 18, 2021

Claire no

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Rob McBobson · November 18, 2021

I love how the background changes gradually to show that time is passing, but still remains the same to a degree that lets you see how they're moving. Very nifty.

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JD · November 18, 2021

you gotta let her feel her feelings, Marty. there’s nothing helpful to be said rn

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Scott Vogel · November 18, 2021

WE ALL LIVE IN A LAVA SUBMARINE. A LAVE SUMARINE!

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Thomas Sturm · November 18, 2021

Jacques Cousteau ("Jeff") takes you on a Lava Submarine tour on tonight's episode

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Miyaa · November 18, 2021

It’s Jeph tyvm

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Abioticgawd · November 18, 2021

God, the shoe is going to drop with Martin literally having the job Claire wants, huh.

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Matthew Fox · November 18, 2021

Exactly what I was going to say lol

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Heather C · November 18, 2021

All of this joking aside, I really like what Jeph has been doing with the backgrounds and perspectives for the past few weeks of strips. It feels more "life-like" to me, if that makes sense? I really like it. Now lava submarines - I really want one.

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Spike · November 18, 2021

Don't we all live in one, really?

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Michael Boettger · November 18, 2021

But seriously, Claire is, like many, setting impossibly high standards and goals for herself. Iife is a process, focus on what one has, not on a arbitrary finish line.

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Livy N · November 18, 2021

I relate way too much to Claire's struggle 😓

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Stuart Telfer · November 18, 2021

I want a lava submarine for my imposter syndrome...

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Todd Perkins · November 18, 2021

I don't just *Iike* a submarine, I LAVA Submarine!

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Captain Button · November 18, 2021

I liked a lava submarine, but it didn't like me back... 8~~-({

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Liz · November 18, 2021

I just want to give her a hug and say she's perfect just the way she is. Can she go to yoga with Marigold and Hanners? Comparison is the thief of joy. (I say all of this as a high achieving phd student who is about to graduate and is terrified of not finding a job - you are hitting a little too close for home Jeph!)

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Nancy Boutwell · November 18, 2021

❤

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Heather C · November 18, 2021

We all want a lava submarine, a lava submarine, a lava submarine

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KingAtticus · November 18, 2021

Poor Claire… I was in that same position years ago, fresh out of college. Couldn’t get a stable office job and stuck applying to everything and anything. Something finally stuck and was doing better mentally, but it was nowhere near my major

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Clifton Royston · November 18, 2021

It's been a long long *long* time, but I when I got out of college and moved across the country, the only work I could find for quite a while was temping as a cashier because I had worked a cash register. My then girlfriend and I were on food stamps to make ends meet. That was even with professional computer programming experience - on big iron, at that. Of course nowadays it would be that, minus the food stamps because boo, get a job you moocher.

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Absentia · November 18, 2021

Oof. Poor Claire. I can relate to her pain.

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Nikki · November 18, 2021

If its any help Claire, people generally aren't dense enough to sink into lava. We would normally just sit on top and burn from the extreme heat. Lava is incredibly dense.

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Dracon Atrox · November 18, 2021

"Lava is incredibly dense." Just like me!

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Michael Boettger · November 18, 2021

A lava submarine would be cool. Briefly.

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Thomas Raymond · November 18, 2021

We have all done this. Some of us have season tickets to this ride.

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doorbender · November 18, 2021

The core

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RoofPig · November 18, 2021

Claire can be played by Hilary Swank in the movie!

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William Hanna · November 18, 2021

A lava submarine would not be cool. It would be……soooo hot.

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Damian Paradis · November 18, 2021

Boo!!! Hiss!!!! ......(goes the lava)

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Mad Marie · November 18, 2021

Everyone needs a Lava Submarine (imho).

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Miyaa · November 18, 2021

“We all live in a lava submarine!”