The Dogs of War (1980)

Love the book and movie ultimate dad shit

Alright hear me out. Did anyone listen to De la Soul is Dead? Bc there’s a track/skit on there “Rap de Rap Show” that’s a promo for their fictional radio station. They have a series of shoutouts from characters, some real (Q Tip) and some ostensibly fictional. One of the characters introduces himself as COLONEL BOBBY. That is all I will show myself out.

Communion is a perfect Boxing Day movie. Have the whole family wonder “was he molested as a child”

Fucking loved this movie. If anyone is interested in real modern day mercenary shit I HIGHLY recommend the book “my friend the mercenary” by James brabazon. I know the boyz would dig it too.

Great episode, lads. I appreciate the heads up on the book. Was really cool to cover all the aspects. For my strategy game nerds, jagged alliance 3 really does scratch the Dogs of War itch of logistically planning a revolution. https://youtu.be/rza9Oou-XP8?si=aBoHuU5sgM1CDLL3

Stanger immediately pulling the name of Micheal Jackson’s sleep medication is why this podcast is good.

i forget if this ep or the shadow wolves ep is where rodgers mentions traxx, but yall GOTTA watch it. that said I believe it will never come to streaming proper, youtube or whatever is gonna be the only way to watch it, ala beastmaster 2

If you want more Guantanamo Bay stories, my parents were stationed there when I was a kid so I grew up on the naval base, lived there for 5 years when I was a kid. They would sell T-shirts that everyone would wear that say “I eat breakfast 300 yards from 4000 Cubans, who are trained to kill me” My dad was a DJ for the on base and the slogan for the station was “rockin in Fidel’s backyard”

This podcast has exposed to me so many good Walken movies. I loved this one a ton

This was a very minor takeaway but I’m with Ben, falcons and hawks kick ass. I had a red-tailed hawk that nested in my yard a few years ago, so I would watch it majestically take off then fly back with prey in claw. It was like having a neighbor who drives a Harrier Jump Jet to work every morning.

This is for Gabrus...Bro, I love wet eyes as well my man, which is why I time stamped on Tubi 26:30 when Mr. Brown met Mrs Dexter...holy shit dude...fuckin amazon rain forest in there!!!! Love you my man and give my best to Stanger and Rodgers cause they don't read this

Traxx VHS rip for anyone who may be interested: https://rarelust.com/traxx-1988/#more-22511

Can confirm Sherlock Holmes Smarter Brother is great and worth a watch. Also starring Madeline Khan and Marty Feldman.

I was actually hoping to hear where those Henley shirts were from.

Having learned and trying to learn more about African conflicts ruined the book for me. If you look the names mentioned in the book, like Denard or Hoare, you'll see a bunch of guys who took money to fight for Rhodesia and used anti-communism as an excuse to enforce European interests in Africa.

The show House is another Sherlock Holmes inspired project. House/Wilson Holmes/Watson. 0 users give a shit about this comment.

I spent a few weeks in Djibouti. Ok absorb that. Move on. Back in 2002 with the Marines. We mostly were training for a week or so at a time while deployed on an aircraft carrier right after 9/11. I think we were backup for some special forces missions in Syria or something. But yeah it sucked. Like 120° temps. Though one night it rained so hard while we were sleeping on mats next to our vehicles and we started floating away. The camel spiders were terrifying as well. All that said, I shockingly have no interest going back to Africa.

gabrus venting about his mom was kinda therapeutic..... my moms not italian but she certainly is catholic LOL

i had 3 or 4 henleys. my dad borrowed one once and never gave it back. no hard feelings tho. it became his favorite shirt and he wears it all the time. so now i only have 2 or 3 henleys

Hell yeah

I saw Bedroom Window thriller from the 80s it’s pretty damn good.

Forsyth’s outline for this book myst have been 200 pages. Also as a male Jamie this film was satisying.

I'll code switch back to redneck if I ever have to call someone for my dad in his town just so we can understand each other, but I think I knew early on to have no accent when I talk so people don't think I'm some dumb hick

Detective John Kimba

Rodgers nailed the book narrator’s impersonation of Shannon’s love interest. Placed an order for a used copy of The Odessa File and will be reading it with Frederick Davidson’s voice in my head. His German accents were top notch as well

Is that the same French cafe from inglorious basterds or do all French cafes just look like that?

On the subject of having an accent and moving to a different location and not losing it, my father was born in Havana, Cuba in 1936, moved to Louisville, Kentucky in 1969 and passed away in 2015. Not only did his accent never change, but he sounded just like Al Pacino as Tony Montana in Scarface. Nothing pisses me off more than hearing people say that Al Pacino’s accent wasn’t authentic because in Nov 1998, the night the Phantom Menace teaser trailer came out, my dad did my outgoing voicemail as Tony Montana, and even ended it with “and leave a message you cock a roach“ because he sounded just like him.

Hell, I start codeswitching anytime I rewatch Deadwood, The Sopranos, and most problematically, The Wire.

Dogs of War fka the Bark Bark Boys

Anyone else see Traxx on Red Letter Media?

Love that us Aussies have a surrogate in Gabrus on the Action Boyz. Cool hearing some slang and stories getting put into context from the Aussies end by him. Great ep lads.

The Retreat has ended, everywhere but our hairlines.

Re: Code-switching. I moved from south London to the Bronx 20 years ago still haven't lost any of my trashy accent. maybe because I'm tone deaf

Ballerina absolutely rules and anyone who likes action movies should check it out. Most creative fight scenes I’ve seen in a while

Re: Code-switching. I spend a lot of time in Hawaii for work and find myself embarrassingly slipping into the local dialect way more than I’m comfortable with when I think about it. “Brah” and “bruddah” suddenly appear, surprising even me, despite a conscious awareness and effort not to be a poser. It has to be some natural subconscious tendency to not want to stick out and seem conspicuous, to be part of the In-group. What’s more surprising to me are the people who DON’T naturally adapt to the culture around them, like Schwarzenegger, but as has been discussed on the pod several times it’s become a part of his brand so there’s something else going on there.

Funnily enough, this isn't the only 80's Christopher Walken movie where he lead a coup against a government. He also overthrew the Colombian government in James Glickenhaus's "McBain". It was a more pulpy popcorn action movie that lacks the gritty sophistication of "Dogs of War". But it's still a fun watch with some impressive action and stunts.

There are only two kinds of boomer dads: Forsythe dads and Le Carre dads

omg please let Stanger talk about henleys! the henley erasure must cease!

Also, some book reccs because this is an area I have interest in- There’s Licensed To Kill by Robert Young Pelton and Corporate Warriors by PW Singer which is more about early GWOT PMCs. My Friend The Mercenary by James Brabazon which deals with Nick Du Toit, a pretty well known name in the merc world. The Wonga Coup by Adam Roberts is about a coup attempt similar to what is depicted in Dogs of War in Equatorial Guinea in 2004. Simon Mann (one of the figures in that farce) wrote a memoir called “Cry Havoc”. Lastly, there’s pretty much anything by “Mad” Mike Hoare, who is basically the mercenary world’s version of Billy Waugh. Maybe next year they’ll cover “The Wild Geese,” another awesome merc movie pulled from the real world (and had actual mercenaries in the film.)

I got a buddy with some of the relevant experience the Boyz were looking for insight on, as well as knowledge of the Russian mercs (he’s guested on other podcasts about that.) This is also one of his fav movies- I’ll reach out and see if he’s up to telling the Boyz some stories.

oh shit i just started reading this yesterday

I realize they couldn’t include all the stuff in the book but the scene where they are up late waiting for the phone call felt so tense and real. Walken would have killed in that scene!

Shannon shooting the reflection of Gabrielle might be a nod to a similar shot during the climax of The Wild Bunch

As a welder the “barrel” montage scene killed me😂

I'm trying to organize a coup in Val Verde but I'm getting stuck on the holding-company-in-Luxembourg step.

Best part of the book is when Cat effortlessly starts fucking the daughter of the mining bigwig. You can tell Forsyth is a conservative British guy

The Boyz' Gun Guy has probably already posted this: https://www.americanrifleman.org/content/the-manville-gun-from-real-life-to-the-big-screen/

Thank you!

I immediately had to look up Traxx after hearing about it, and while it’s not on YouTube, it is on the Internet Archive.

“Cry ‘Havoc!’ and let slip the dogs of war.”