T & S just cleared me
Which wasn't too surprising I suppose, considering I deleted pretty much everything.
For reference, for other creators and those interested, here's a part of the e-mail I just received:
"I would like to address your first question regarding the POV videos. From our perspective, these are okay as the character from whose point of view we are "viewing" doesn't seem to be undergoing forceful act in itself.
Our concerns were mostly regarding videos in which the characters were being used as sex toys unwillingly. This is considered sexual violence and not allowed on Patreon.
The same is true for vore (whichever kind). Vore content is allowed as long as it is completely consensual, with both parties involved. Regardless of the form the character takes, such as a strawberry or human form, the scene needs to be consensual and non-violent.
With respect to the sexualization of minors, it was precisely the character Lucy that caused some concerns as she was depicted as a younger-looking character."
So POV videos seem to be fine, as long as there are no other tinies present. But anything else I have done up until now is pretty much not allowed.
I might consider giving Lucy some pubic hair or something, to compensate her tinier breasts, maybe that would push her out of the zone where someone might see her as too young.
Eitherway, I'll try to have a discord setup before the end of the month, and I'll switch to the pay up front system at that time as well.
As I said in my previous post/message: If you don't want to use discord, I recommend joining up on my new page on Subscribestar Adult instead.
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I just created this account to comment here. I had 165 patrons on 2018, and Patreon banned me. My advice for you is: create your website and publish your stuff on your website. Use your website to contact your supporters, to publish content for members only, etc. When Patreon banned me, they removed everything from me, my posts, my supporters, their contact information, etc. I republished everything on my website, contacted everybody and saved all stuff deleted by Patreon paid by my dear supporters. Good luck (nowadays I'm using Clica.net as an alternative to Patreon)
Patreon is a PoS site now. It's been on a steady decline for a few years now and it's really been their own fault. Not the fault of the creators. They keep trying to please the vocal minority but in doing so they just piss off the majority of their site and hurt their reputation even more. Trying to scoring brownie points only works for so long because the people who actually pay for the upkeep of your site say "Fuck it" and leave. Honestly I hope Patreon just fucking dies, they don't care about their actual creators, the one that make them the majority of the money. They are trying to have their cake and eat it too. I seriously believe that this place is for SFW content and creators now. They just can't be bothered to come out and say it to all of our faces. Cause they know they'd really go in the hole if they did. Since the amount NSFW creators vastly outnumbers the amount of SFW creators and they'd have to file for bankruptcy if they were actually honestly with all site users.
When you ban creators left and right, try to fuck over the patrons by upping the amount of fee's they pay (if anyone remembers that shitshow), ban creators who aren't breaking rules but you don't agree with their political views and on and on and on, you don't deserve to be in the business of encouraging creativity. Because that's called stifling it, not growing it.
Just using discord for all the stuff is better. I've done it with a other things on here. A musician and a minecraft server. Just links to this and all the stuff is on there.
Ok, in principle, it is clear, what problems have confronted you, yes I agree, everything on Patreon should be agreed.
Vore unwilling is considered sexual violence...? Hmm, not sure to be insulted and thought a rapist or something disgusting. Or that whoever doesn't understand it is a complete idiot. People who have no understanding of it or giantess content come up with this stupid notion that every.single.fucking.thing related to it MUST be sexual for us. Doesn't matter if they're clothed, or it's for humour purposes like Honey I shrunk the kids, nope! It's sexual violence because they're being used, despite BDSM and us liking ourselves to be unwilling in it and controlled. What happens if you post a nature video of a fish eating a fish, that's unwilling sexual violence, oh and I bet they'd consider it furry related somehow. I hope things get better for you Ez! Sorry for my language!
Moved over to SubscribeStar today.
have you considered gumroad?
Yes. and I might do it at some point, in a way that new content is slightly cheaper than here, depending on the update size of course. Old content would be even cheaper. So it would mainly be for people who only want to get a single release, or they don't have any options to pay with the other alternatives.
subscribestar.adult has no PayPal funktion only credit card.
At least they're communicating clearly. Others haven't been so fortunate...
Pay upfront? So if I want to be able to pay your game I will have to pay upfront instead of a support system like on subscribestar? Also you are Scandinavian same as me! How many girls here so you know that don't shave? 😂
Pay up front just means that you get billed immediately, instead of Patreon's default system, where you pledge, and don't pay anything until the month changes.
It's bullshit, I think they are taking our freedom away. So many rules it's all they are good for, I wish they would do something to help the people instead,,,I would applaud them. ( like helping the poor or stuff like that) I don't like Patreon anymore
What do you think of them calling it "sexual violence"? That sounds so severe, it's insulting. They even told you that what you make is a glorification of sexual violence?
Yes, it's a bit insulting, but it's something I'd expect from anyone not familiar with the fetish. While it's not technically wrong, it's fantasy content, and no one sane is going to associate this stuff with actual rape or other forms of sexual violence. But honestly I was more annoyed with them insinuating that I'm doing underage porn.
You know what the very best part about this is? It's someone's job at Patreon to view this content, likely with no context and often no understanding of the fetish. I mean, just imagine that - with zero context or knowledge on the subject matter, you sit down at the start of the day and... a giant girl is shoving a tiny other girl up her backside. Oh now she's eating her?!?! Then they have to have a totally rational and professional conversation about it with the creator.
Heh, yes, I don't envy them. They also probably have to deal with some pretty angry people, although I suppose that's a problem with customer service jobs in general. At least they don't have to do it face to face.
If you going to give Lucy a pubic hair I say go for it ^-^
That crazy