UNCUT - Remember (VOY S3E6) | Star Trek Journey 428

This episode is more relevant in 2026 than it was in 1995

Nice shot of Chakotay's office this episode. I must have missed this episode originally. It's very well done. It's a lot of story and Roxann really carries the episode well.

This guy said to his daughter "you are sheltering regressives beneath your floorboards, are you not" Definitely a strong episode compared to a lot of early S3. B+ if not A tier. I agree with the assessment that Torres/Roxann tends to get the most consistently good scripts to work with, and I find she's generally good at delivering in the acting department. There might be a mediocre/bad B'Elanna episode I'm not remembering right now, but the fact I can't recall it offhand says something given most of the other characters have at least one terrible episode I can remember instantly. Elogium/Kes, Tattoo/Chakotay, Twisted/Neelix, and that's just thus far. I can understand the confusion between these aliens and the ones from Ex Post Facto. The names are both vowel heavy and somewhat similar sounding, Banean/Enaran. The makeup bears some general similarity too. I think the Baneans from EPF were a better design though. They were going for an avian aesthetic there, having both hair and feathers. The Enaran makeup is honestly kind of lazy. They clearly just used foam mesh like you'll sometimes see wrapped around fruit at the grocery store, and then dyed it and stuck it around the hairline. Interestingly we don't see any regressives with that mesh, as they're all wearing bandanas or head wraps of some sort. Probably just to save on budget/time. Also hate to bring it up again, but Banea should be 2 years in the rear view mirror at this point. Then again the fact the Kazon were on their tail for so long does diminish that argument. As to the Holocaust themes, they definitely resonate more as an adult having seen and understood much more of the associated subject matter. As a kid this stood out more as a "it's Star Trek, dad!" kind of episode. It's competently executed, if a little tame. I wouldn't say it's as impactful with it's message as Chain of Command was tackling torture, The Drumhead with judicial overreach, or frankly Duet which took on very much similar subject matter. For that reason, it isn't an S. Marritza was excellent of someone who was witness to the oppression and too cowardly to do anything to stop it. Korenna took a much more active part in the genocide and arguably did far less to rectify it, so I don't find her nearly as effective. What I will give the episode credit for it providing the unique perspective of a 3rd party coming across evidence of the genocide decades after the fact and asking the question "what do you do about it". I think realistically, Janeway was right. They have no means to change what happened or prove who was guilty. And even if they could, if the Enarans don't want to face their own past, are they going to prosecute anyone? Sure if Voyager's vastly greater speed is any indication, they're decades or centuries ahead technologically, but even if that extends to weapons, what are they going to do? Bomb the planet? I like that Janeway believed Torres, but there's what you know and what you can prove. Voyager has no jurisdiction on Enara, and no doubt any investigation would be shut down fast. At least she let B'Elanna plant a seed to reveal the truth. Ultimately if there's even going to be justice for what happened, it's the Enarans themselves who have to decide to pursue it.

I can't believe you guys were able to recognize that was Chip Esten from Whose Line. I love that show and I still would have never recognized him here.

Excellent Episode. A. Maybe S. And Im a Voyager hater. Totally never saw this one before. Excellent Holocaust episode but it is a surprise. Really supports the reality that any society can succumb to horrific actions. Forced resettlement is bad, but not on the same level as extermination but it often leads to just that. Often forced resettlement has been a smokescreen for mass murder . . . obviously this is how Germany did it-- your neighbors are just being "resettled to the East." I genuinely appreciate the ending too. Janeway's measured support. They are NOT in position to enforce morality on this alien society BUT they will break ties and also revealed at least to someone what happened. My only disappointment is I assume we never hear of this again (I don't know as I only watched occasionally Voyager episodes/ maybe half). I want to see the woman's reaction at the end. I'd love to see the society have to reconcile their history.

Star Trek's first Holocaust Episode where the Holocaust isn't happening, or being prevented or something like that, but where there is a society that did one, and they got away with it. interesting episode, clearly A-Tier, maybe S-Tier even. but of course Alex misses the point entirely, No, this is not about Colonization, the regressives are a part of their species, they just refuse to advance technologically. the human equivalent would be the amish.

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I agree with Josh that they should have kept it to just pushing the regressive people out which is morally bad by itself and interesting to explore. As others have commented, the Germans did try very hard to fully cover up the Holocaust. Some German civilians in nearby towns did know what was happening and didn't care because of the extensive anti-semitism of the time.

Everyone always asks about what really happened to the regressives, but no one ever asks what the regressives really did to make a whole world turn on them and gather in crowds to cheer at their eraser.

I love that there is no long, convoluted "why are these dreams happening?" mystery, Chakotay immediately says "It probably have something to do with the telepaths on board", the first time B'Elanna tells him she's having dreams. One of my favourite things about Voyager is that the crew is smart and (usually) not behind the viewer in understanding the trope that their episode is doing.

This episode always felt to me like a solid science fiction script with somewhat supernatural elements, that was re-shaped to fit the Star Trek mold. Which is OK and happened before. The story is maybe a little contrived and convoluted, but this time around, I didn't mind that. I do find it somewhat reductive to think, that this episode is about the "Holocaust" and the Germans and what they knew. It is a motif that appeared in SciFi long before the Third Reich. For example "The House of a Thousand Floors" by the Czech writer Jan Weiss from 1929 describes a dystopian society, where people are buying tickets on spaceships to live off-world on distant planets, but in truth just get cremated. And 1976's movie "Logan's Run" has its own fake-paradise myth, where people just get killed, while celebrating their demise. But this episode has actually an intellectual sibling in another Voyager episode, being "Emanations" from Season 1.

The Nazis most definitely did try to cover up the Holocaust, which is why you still find occasional Holocaust-deniers. They were proud of it amongst themselves, but they knew what they were doing was wrong or they would not have tried to cover it up.

How about this example: "We're going to push out all of the people who refuse to use AI."

Best episode of the season up to now. I basically agree with comments from both of you. This one gets a B.

We're supposedly in a bad streak and THIS is the episode that's a step in the right direction? Okay then...

Since 3x01 was basically a season 2 episode, this one actually *is* 3x05!

Never seen this one before, and I really enjoyed it. It's not exactly my favourite type of story but it was very well made and Dawson's acting is always great, she really stands out in this. The only thing I had a hard time buying was how B'Elanna / Korenna went from being surprised by the genocide to cheering on seeing her lover being burned at the stake in like 5 minutes. High B for me.

If I recall correctly, at least outside of Germany, no one knew about the Holocaust until the end of the war, when Allied troops came across the camps and began liberating them. There's a famous movie made during the war that even has a line like: "Even the Germans can't kill people that fast." as evidence that people didn't know.

It's pretty good, but strangely a season later I challenge you to remember this one.

Okay, so I think that committing genocide is obviously evil AF, but were these Regressives like modern primitives? Anti-vaxxers? Flat Ear - err - Inara-ers? I mean, we don't know the whole story and maybe they *did* mostly wipe themselves out due to Space Polio and catastrophic ignorance or something? But still, it's obvious there's a cover up going on and B'Elanna was right to challenge them. I like the fact that the episode isn't giving us a concrete answer either way, but it does seem like that the Inaran lady's memories were correct. Good, but not great still. And at least it challenges the viewer. I appreciated your guys' take on it.

I'm not sure there is much more psychotic than tricking your own child to participate in Genocide by saying "How could you believe your family and friends are capable of doing that?"

Maybe my favorite type of reaction is when you guys love an episode I’m meh on.

Earth, wind, and fire time. Do you remember, the 21st night of September? It goes on and on and on.

I find this episode a little too lethargically paced, and I also think they made the bad guys too over-the-top evil, but I appreciate that this episode was really About Something, and Roxann Dawson kicked all kinds of ass with all the nuances she had to bring to both characters. In a tough season, this is a nice upswing.

This actually was a leftover TNG script that was originally a Troi episode.

As far as people knowing, when the US liberated a german town towards the end of the war, there was a story about a mayor and his wife who hung themselves with a note taped around his neck, "We didn't know... but we knew." It was no secret the Nazis were persecuting jews but at the Wansee conference where the orders for the finak solution were given to the department heads, they were aware what they were doing would be considered war crimes based on the WW1 agreements and they were not revealing it publically. The official policy was that the Jews would be deported somewhere, with Madagascar as a frequently mentioned place. The Allies knew at that point, and made a determination to not prioritize stopping it as a war objective.

This one I like more and more each time. I'm really impressed with the writing of this one and would be curious to read the shooting script. There's a few edits in Act One & Two where it looks like they cut the scenes shorter to have that fourth act just breathe with the final memories. Great guest acting and Roxann Dawson nails the duel charcater. The scar, the satinization balls, the instrument all peppered in so the context is there for when the dreams do the world building. When I was 12 the first time I watched this I don't think I appreciated the nuance. Glad to be an annual member.

Surprised you guys liked this, it doesn't really involve any of our main cast, even B'lanna isn't herself for most of the episode. Most of the time you guys dismiss any episodes that is guest character heavy. Especially ones where we'll never likely see the characters/story again. I enjoyed this one too.

I will always believe Torres was wrong to interfere, sure a bunch of people had died, ages past. But by upending Enaran society, literally millions more may die, and what? Voyager just drops an ideological nuke on a civilization and keeps on flying? There is no way that they could predict what kind of damage and horror will come from it. I think the messaging works very well, its not one way or the other so much that it preaches or forgets, instead it respects the intelligence of the viewer to know what is right and wrong. The Enarans were in the wrong killing the Regressives (Dangers of othering)

So, others will disagree, but I don’t think Roxanne has a bad episode of hers, some one may not like but Roxanne always does great

I can never really predict what you guys are gonna like cause some episodes are maybe not Dharmok or the inner light, but I’ll be like “oh I like that one!”and you guys who know??

Voyager sex scoreboard A couple of scores after a long dry spell SCOREBOARD Paris 3 Jayneway 3 Chakotay 2 Torres 2 +1 new Harry 2 +1 new Neelix 1 Kes 1 The Doctor 1 GUESTS Dathan +2 Jessen +2 DETAILS Yes Harry scores. Just to remind all, our guidelines is when in doubt they did it. Harry scoring is a pretty clear yes. Had attraction, had opportunity, had game (somehow). Torres score is a little more dicey. Again though, this character did wam bam even though as another character. We have counted that a lot. Picard's got a few of those. Also side note we give a +2 to guest stars because they each slammed a Voyager crew but also at the end together pulled a sex scene from “Scenes from a hat”. Jessen was glad it wasn’t Collin or Ryan, but may have wished it was Wayne Brady.

Also, every time they say the name of these people I keep picturing Inara from Firefly.

To answer the "how do they come up with the names" thing. They did what every role playing gamer did. Looked at a Tolkien book index to find some funky names.

I really liked this one. Finally a B'Elana episode that isn't wall to wall techno babble. Dawson got to show her range too. From love-struck to outraged, from somber to elated. The best scene is Torres barging in and laying it all out in the open. Chef's kiss!

personally i find this episode kind of boring, but im glad you guys had a good time and the things you’ve said made me actually think about it more and yeah, it is kind of a step up from this beginning of season 3. It does get better but man, it’s my least favorite start haha

I would have liked more if B'Elanna got the memory from different persons and every one of them only knew a fragment of the truth, but since she had the whole picture, she could have put it together and expose it. Yeah, maybe to much to fit in 44 minutes. Still liked the episode as it is - first time watch for me

I'll be honest, I'm still not sure if I believe the memories are legit or not. I'm also not sure why Janeway believes they're real; how could she know? Did I miss something?

I didn’t leave a take last week, partly because I didn’t want a hundred notifications thatothers left takes, but I like this one, it is one of the best of early season 3

Roxanne Dawson is great, this is Trek

I love this episode! Of course I’m a sucker for romance with a sci-fi twist. Unfortunately the twist is the violations TNG episode. Problematic since consent is vague in the beginning, but it gets there eventually. Great ending. Great B’ Elanna episode!